Hi Jamie. Yes unfortunately, each time i go to the site, never see a player.
Its difficult that way, make a deposit and play. Its weird, because the all concept is really good.
I agree, that maybe a option of house vs player , may sparkle the game, together with a signature campaign.
I wish all of the best. You are a good and focused person.
Cheers.
Topic: ~www.PvPDice.com~ - Bitcoin Player Vs Player Dice & Poker betting -0% house edge (Read 2736 times)
June 04, 2015, 06:06:31 PM
June 04, 2015, 11:12:22 AM
For the sake of been transparent I would like to reveal our current stats since launching 3 days ago.
4 Deposits, 1 withdrawal, 0 bets
From monitoring the website we see users logging on however finding nobody to challenge and then logging out/closing from boredom.
Not sure how to counter this as the incentive to get users on the website in the first place was the non existent advantage to any player.
4 Deposits, 1 withdrawal, 0 bets
From monitoring the website we see users logging on however finding nobody to challenge and then logging out/closing from boredom.
Not sure how to counter this as the incentive to get users on the website in the first place was the non existent advantage to any player.
What about adding an usual dice game alongside, so people can play against the house when there is no one around?
Primedice has PVP if I remember correctly.
It has been removed, but I have no idea if it is temporary or permanent. Check MICRO's post for reference.
PvP is removed from primedice for the time being .
However users such as "keepinquiet" make a good point, gambling is supposed to be fun and it seems we have overlooked this and focused on the fairness of betting instead.
We have decided to keep PvPDice open for another week purely to monitor weekend activity and perhaps give some unaware users a shot, all deposits will automatically be refunded if this day comes so don't let that discourage you from trying the game.
We're currently re-planning the whole project however knowing what we now know it doesn't seem anything will work apart from implementing a traditional 'house vs player' feature. I'm personally against the notion so unless convinced otherwise this probably won't happen.
I appreciate all the comments and support, it's truly nice to see some people giving it a chance amongst the 500+ pages of other content advertised on this forum.
June 03, 2015, 01:33:45 PM
i think we don't have enough users online as of now, maybe you should start some giveaways so you can get users to try the game. Thanks
yes the players very lonely sometimes makes me confused. in fact they are good when the initial opening has held a contest but after that it seemed everyone went away.pvp requires little giveaway to attract and make famous
June 03, 2015, 12:27:31 PM
For the sake of been transparent I would like to reveal our current stats since launching 3 days ago.
4 Deposits, 1 withdrawal, 0 bets
From monitoring the website we see users logging on however finding nobody to challenge and then logging out/closing from boredom.
Not sure how to counter this as the incentive to get users on the website in the first place was the non existent advantage to any player.
4 Deposits, 1 withdrawal, 0 bets
From monitoring the website we see users logging on however finding nobody to challenge and then logging out/closing from boredom.
Not sure how to counter this as the incentive to get users on the website in the first place was the non existent advantage to any player.
What about adding an usual dice game alongside, so people can play against the house when there is no one around?
Primedice has PVP if I remember correctly.
It has been removed, but I have no idea if it is temporary or permanent. Check MICRO's post for reference.
PvP is removed from primedice for the time being .
June 03, 2015, 12:23:47 PM
i think we don't have enough users online as of now, maybe you should start some giveaways so you can get users to try the game. Thanks
yes the players very lonely sometimes makes me confused. in fact they are good when the initial opening has held a contest but after that it seemed everyone went away.pvp requires little giveaway to attract and make famous
June 03, 2015, 12:13:56 PM
i think we don't have enough users online as of now, maybe you should start some giveaways so you can get users to try the game. Thanks
yes the players very lonely sometimes makes me confused. in fact they are good when the initial opening has held a contest but after that it seemed everyone went away.pvp requires little giveaway to attract and make famous
June 03, 2015, 11:57:58 AM
i think we don't have enough users online as of now, maybe you should start some giveaways so you can get users to try the game. Thanks
June 03, 2015, 11:02:50 AM
I checked it out. It's PVP. I challenged someone, who, I assume was not interested, or was afk. The challenge timed out in 30 seconds.
I don't want to wait 3 seconds for my dice to roll.
Why would I bother with PVP dice challenges when I could just go to primedice or elsewhere and bet instantly? I don't see the overwhelming bonus that your site provides thats worth the "cost" of hoping others are on, at the same exact time I am, paying attention, who are willing to risk what I am, and then possibly waiting what feels like forever for that bet to happen.
I'm not sure there is ANY benefit that would make all that worth it.
Primedice has PVP if I remember correctly. And I can bet against the system if I want in the meantime.
Not bashing, just telling you a gambler's response to the site. I see zero incentive to jump those hoops when I can deposit and bet at another site in seconds.
I don't want to wait 3 seconds for my dice to roll.
Why would I bother with PVP dice challenges when I could just go to primedice or elsewhere and bet instantly? I don't see the overwhelming bonus that your site provides thats worth the "cost" of hoping others are on, at the same exact time I am, paying attention, who are willing to risk what I am, and then possibly waiting what feels like forever for that bet to happen.
I'm not sure there is ANY benefit that would make all that worth it.
Primedice has PVP if I remember correctly. And I can bet against the system if I want in the meantime.
Not bashing, just telling you a gambler's response to the site. I see zero incentive to jump those hoops when I can deposit and bet at another site in seconds.
I think you should have another option where you get to play against bots at a low house advantage (say at 0.5%).
This way you would generate more profit for the site to sustain.
June 03, 2015, 10:40:36 AM
I checked it out. It's PVP. I challenged someone, who, I assume was not interested, or was afk. The challenge timed out in 30 seconds.
I don't want to wait 3 seconds for my dice to roll.
Why would I bother with PVP dice challenges when I could just go to primedice or elsewhere and bet instantly? I don't see the overwhelming bonus that your site provides thats worth the "cost" of hoping others are on, at the same exact time I am, paying attention, who are willing to risk what I am, and then possibly waiting what feels like forever for that bet to happen.
I'm not sure there is ANY benefit that would make all that worth it.
Primedice has PVP if I remember correctly. And I can bet against the system if I want in the meantime.
Not bashing, just telling you a gambler's response to the site. I see zero incentive to jump those hoops when I can deposit and bet at another site in seconds.
I don't want to wait 3 seconds for my dice to roll.
Why would I bother with PVP dice challenges when I could just go to primedice or elsewhere and bet instantly? I don't see the overwhelming bonus that your site provides thats worth the "cost" of hoping others are on, at the same exact time I am, paying attention, who are willing to risk what I am, and then possibly waiting what feels like forever for that bet to happen.
I'm not sure there is ANY benefit that would make all that worth it.
Primedice has PVP if I remember correctly. And I can bet against the system if I want in the meantime.
Not bashing, just telling you a gambler's response to the site. I see zero incentive to jump those hoops when I can deposit and bet at another site in seconds.
June 03, 2015, 08:55:13 AM
Maybe they only have start promotion... later they will surely need to "update" fees 
June 03, 2015, 08:03:38 AM
I don't know how you would even run the server with 0.01% commision on deposits/withdraws. You would need 20,000$ in bitcoin not wagered but deposited or cashed out each month to pay for a 2$ VPS. For a half decent server of 100$/month you would need 1,000,000$ in bitcoin deposited or cashed out each month.
June 03, 2015, 07:39:27 AM
The 0.001% fee is very very low, It's hardly to continue to run a site.
The fee is not the issue at all, activity and serious bettors using the website was always the concern.For the sake of been transparent I would like to reveal our current stats since launching 3 days ago.
4 Deposits, 1 withdrawal, 0 bets
From monitoring the website we see users logging on however finding nobody to challenge and then logging out/closing from boredom.
Not sure how to counter this as the incentive to get users on the website in the first place was the non existent advantage to any player.
June 03, 2015, 05:24:26 AM
The 0.001% fee is very very low, It's hardly to continue to run a site.
June 03, 2015, 05:05:14 AM
BET ID is a randomly generated number which is our 'variable' in the provably fair concept.
Are you sure? So this isn't the bet ID that increases just with 1? If so do we get a hash of this in advance? TBH the whole implementation seems strange, I would assume PvP just works like this:- Player 1 makes random seed that is long enough to not be bruteforced (is made by default randomly in browser - not on server.) Sends hash to site (not the actual seed yet!) together with amount, Hi/Lo choice.
- Player 2 does the same.
- Both players see each others hash and have few seconds to note it down.
- Both players send the actual seeds to server (only now!) and result is calculated just based on these seeds together.
This way neither the players or site knows the outcome in advance, even if the site + one of the players collude together (eg house cheating by faking a player.)
0.01% of $1,000 is $10
Uhm no. You might be confused with the difference in showing fractional numbers with percentage vs decimals.amount = fraction by using percentage = simple fraction (fraction by using decimals)
$1,000 = 100% = 1/1 (1)
$100 = 10% = 1/10 (0.1)
$10 = 1% = 1/100 (0.01)
$1 = 0.1% = 1/1000 (0.001)
$0.1 = 0.01% = 1/10000 (0.0001)
$0.01 = 0.001% = 1/100000 (0.00001)
$0.001 = 0.0001% = 1/1000000 (0.000001)
Funny, one of the devs said this originally during the concept planning and everyone else shut him down; he's feeling pretty big headed right now lmao.
Changing this now, thanks Nico.
June 02, 2015, 10:34:46 AM
BET ID is a randomly generated number which is our 'variable' in the provably fair concept.
Are you sure? So this isn't the bet ID that increases just with 1? If so do we get a hash of this in advance? TBH the whole implementation seems strange, I would assume PvP just works like this:- Player 1 makes random seed that is long enough to not be bruteforced (is made by default randomly in browser - not on server.) Sends hash to site (not the actual seed yet!) together with amount, Hi/Lo choice.
- Player 2 does the same.
- Both players see each others hash and have few seconds to note it down.
- Both players send the actual seeds to server (only now!) and result is calculated just based on these seeds together.
This way neither the players or site knows the outcome in advance, even if the site + one of the players collude together (eg house cheating by faking a player.)
0.01% of $1,000 is $10
Uhm no. You might be confused with the difference in showing fractional numbers with percentage vs decimals.amount = fraction by using percentage = simple fraction (fraction by using decimals)
$1,000 = 100% = 1/1 (1)
$100 = 10% = 1/10 (0.1)
$10 = 1% = 1/100 (0.01)
$1 = 0.1% = 1/1000 (0.001)
$0.1 = 0.01% = 1/10000 (0.0001)
$0.01 = 0.001% = 1/100000 (0.00001)
$0.001 = 0.0001% = 1/1000000 (0.000001)
June 02, 2015, 10:09:02 AM
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To obtain the result, you need four things:
1) BetID: You can obtain this from your "My Bets" column.
2) No. of challenges: Number of challenges issued to opponent.
3) Total Bets: This is the total PVP games played by user, this can be obtained from the "Profile Settings" page on the top left corner of the page. Please note this must be your total bets at the time of the game; not to be confused with your current Total Bets.
4) SEED: This is automatically generated by the server, although you may change it whenever you like; found on the top left corner of the page next to the logout button.
Steps to obtain a user's roll number:
1) Combine (1#2#3#4) in sequence.
1) BetID: You can obtain this from your "My Bets" column.
2) No. of challenges: Number of challenges issued to opponent.
3) Total Bets: This is the total PVP games played by user, this can be obtained from the "Profile Settings" page on the top left corner of the page. Please note this must be your total bets at the time of the game; not to be confused with your current Total Bets.
4) SEED: This is automatically generated by the server, although you may change it whenever you like; found on the top left corner of the page next to the logout button.
Steps to obtain a user's roll number:
1) Combine (1#2#3#4) in sequence.
I don't understand your provably fair method at all. It seems the 4 variables to calculate the roll outcome are known to the player in advance. This would mean the player can generate their own results in advance and therefor cheat.
I would like to try your site, but it seems no one is online. 
Is the fee 0.001% (you take $1 for a $100,000 deposit) or 0.1% (you take $1 for a $1,000 deposit)?
Please note there is a 0.001% fee to all CashOuts by PvPDice.com, this is equivalent to $1 fee for a $1,000 deposit.
Is the fee 0.001% (you take $1 for a $100,000 deposit) or 0.1% (you take $1 for a $1,000 deposit)?
The fee for both is 0.001%
As noted the site says: $1 fee for a $1,000 deposit. That is 0.1% not 0.001%. So which one is it? Just a fee on wagered/profit amount would be better IMO.
The idea was to encourage more betting on a platform far more fair than others, a true game of chance if you will - we always knew the community wouldn't adopt it as quickly as other games such as SatoshiDice, JustDice or PrimeDice which is another reason the fees are so low.
The planning of this project has gone into immense depth and believe it or not this whole launch is more of a proof of concept than a claim to profit, if it fails the plan was to always scrap it and move on to other ventures (Bitcoin related) however if it succeeds then we will take it to the next level (involving a much larger level of commitment from the team and financial investment).
June 02, 2015, 09:39:47 AM
I feel this site will become more popular soon.
0% house edge is always good. This is the 1st time I have seen a dice site with no house advantage on betting.
i have never seen one too but they have some fees what means casino will still get a profit so we can call that fee a small house edge 0% house edge is always good. This is the 1st time I have seen a dice site with no house advantage on betting.
June 02, 2015, 09:38:02 AM
I would like to try your site, but it seems no one is online.
Is the fee 0.001% (you take $1 for a $100,000 deposit) or 0.1% (you take $1 for a $1,000 deposit)?
Please note there is a 0.001% fee to all CashOuts by PvPDice.com, this is equivalent to $1 fee for a $1,000 deposit.
Is the fee 0.001% (you take $1 for a $100,000 deposit) or 0.1% (you take $1 for a $1,000 deposit)?
The fee for both is 0.001%
As noted the site says: $1 fee for a $1,000 deposit. That is 0.1% not 0.001%. So which one is it? Just a fee on wagered/profit amount would be better IMO.
June 02, 2015, 09:34:44 AM
I feel this site will become more popular soon.
0% house edge is always good. This is the 1st time I have seen a dice site with no house advantage on betting.
well yeah 0 house edge sounds really nice though there are really small amount of pvp players i think that will be the problem 0% house edge is always good. This is the 1st time I have seen a dice site with no house advantage on betting.
June 02, 2015, 09:34:06 AM
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To obtain the result, you need four things:
1) BetID: You can obtain this from your "My Bets" column.
2) No. of challenges: Number of challenges issued to opponent.
3) Total Bets: This is the total PVP games played by user, this can be obtained from the "Profile Settings" page on the top left corner of the page. Please note this must be your total bets at the time of the game; not to be confused with your current Total Bets.
4) SEED: This is automatically generated by the server, although you may change it whenever you like; found on the top left corner of the page next to the logout button.
Steps to obtain a user's roll number:
1) Combine (1#2#3#4) in sequence.
1) BetID: You can obtain this from your "My Bets" column.
2) No. of challenges: Number of challenges issued to opponent.
3) Total Bets: This is the total PVP games played by user, this can be obtained from the "Profile Settings" page on the top left corner of the page. Please note this must be your total bets at the time of the game; not to be confused with your current Total Bets.
4) SEED: This is automatically generated by the server, although you may change it whenever you like; found on the top left corner of the page next to the logout button.
Steps to obtain a user's roll number:
1) Combine (1#2#3#4) in sequence.
I don't understand your provably fair method at all. It seems the 4 variables to calculate the roll outcome are known to the player in advance. This would mean the player can generate their own results in advance and therefor cheat.
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