As much as we hate to admit it, this is the future. People may fight back now but in a few years time this might be the normal for every app as big as twitter.
Everything is being monetized these days. Billionaires are looking for ways to get richer so more ways to suck money out of people will be invented.
Apple music, Spotify, Netflix weren't openly accepted from the beginning. Almost every app has the premium member package. It's just what is it.
Personally I won't pay for twitter, but there are tones of people who will. There are those who make their money directly or indirectly from twitter.
I'm very certain that in 20 years time, apps like twitter would not be free. However little the fee might be, but it won't be totally free. Ots the world we live in.
Topic: X (formerly Twitter) may be telling people like me to exit the platform - page 4. (Read 769 times)
September 21, 2023, 08:09:27 AM
September 21, 2023, 04:26:42 AM
If he does that then entire sections of the world will be wiped out from using Twitter because number one, he is not supporting all carriers for buying X Premium. The old twitter used to verify phone numbers for everyone. I'm not sure if they do it now.
And two, how the hell does he expect all of these people to have a means to pay it? It's not like paypal and credit cards are used everywhere - and that's credit cards, prepaid cards will not work because Stripe handles the payments.
And two, how the hell does he expect all of these people to have a means to pay it? It's not like paypal and credit cards are used everywhere - and that's credit cards, prepaid cards will not work because Stripe handles the payments.
Like I've said, users will always have opportunity to read tweets, but they will be charged for posting. According to stats I've found, Twitter has around 350million users, and almost half of them seems to be able to pay monthly fee (I take into consideration their income and tradition have subscription to products). No doubt that Twitter would lose part of his audience, but people will still stay there. If verified account cost 10 EUR/month, than simple subscription would cost less. Payment is least important problem imo. Look at Russia today. They are switched off from swift, have huge limitation, yet they still manage to get foreign services. And most important, Elon Musk just wondered that he might charge users for Twitter usage, and people already caused panic.
September 21, 2023, 03:08:58 AM
If he does that then entire sections of the world will be wiped out from using Twitter because number one, he is not supporting all carriers for buying X Premium. The old twitter used to verify phone numbers for everyone. I'm not sure if they do it now.
And two, how the hell does he expect all of these people to have a means to pay it? It's not like paypal and credit cards are used everywhere - and that's credit cards, prepaid cards will not work because Stripe handles the payments.
And two, how the hell does he expect all of these people to have a means to pay it? It's not like paypal and credit cards are used everywhere - and that's credit cards, prepaid cards will not work because Stripe handles the payments.
September 21, 2023, 03:00:37 AM
Currently Twitter (X) also provides the option to pay a premium subscription fee or something similar which opens up certain restrictions to several features that X has, which cannot be used by users who do not pay a premium subscription fee or something similar.
Currently, The costs are not that high. But I chose to ignore it. Because I only check Twitter to see announcements of various crypto projects that are on my watch list. So I don't need features that can be unlocked only by paying users.
However, if in the end Elon Musk really makes the X platform completely paid, then I think the user response will vary here. But it looks like the fees that will be charged to each user who registers an account on X will not be too high. So some people don't seem to mind that. I will personally see how much it will cost to pay later. If it's cheap then I think it's fine. But if it's not cheap then I prefer to leave platform X.
Currently, The costs are not that high. But I chose to ignore it. Because I only check Twitter to see announcements of various crypto projects that are on my watch list. So I don't need features that can be unlocked only by paying users.
However, if in the end Elon Musk really makes the X platform completely paid, then I think the user response will vary here. But it looks like the fees that will be charged to each user who registers an account on X will not be too high. So some people don't seem to mind that. I will personally see how much it will cost to pay later. If it's cheap then I think it's fine. But if it's not cheap then I prefer to leave platform X.
September 21, 2023, 02:29:56 AM
People might always view this decision negatively, but considering the potential impact, at least there won't be spam accounts and bots roaming around Twitter anymore. This elevates the overall quality of content, and most importantly, it's human-generated. I'm someone who values quality over quantity, so if it means paying a small fee, it might be the best way to filter out the noise.
Monthly payments can certainly be a burden, but a one-time payment with pricing adjusted based on each country's economy might make more sense.
X is also rumored to become a messaging service that allows video calls, similar to WeChat. However, there's currently no likelihood for any app to compete with WhatsApp and Telegram. The arrival of new competitors will undoubtedly make the services even more enjoyable, won't it?
Monthly payments can certainly be a burden, but a one-time payment with pricing adjusted based on each country's economy might make more sense.
X is also rumored to become a messaging service that allows video calls, similar to WeChat. However, there's currently no likelihood for any app to compete with WhatsApp and Telegram. The arrival of new competitors will undoubtedly make the services even more enjoyable, won't it?
September 21, 2023, 02:07:32 AM
I can say for myself that I stopped using Twitter a long time ago.
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I deleted my account as soon as the new owner started applying some kind of absolute freedom of expression, that is, returning banned profiles to people who called for violence, denied the Holocaust or in any other way went against common sense or historical facts. I have nothing against people using any social network, but I've done the same as millions before or after me and I don't miss tweeting one bit.
As for paying for a service, I think it makes sense, because the world is just becoming that way - free stuff will just become a thing of the past, whether someone likes it or not.
Of course, it is important for any company to generate profits to the detriment of the interests of users. On the other hand, this can help cut off a large number of bots that clutter up my notifications.
Social media is free because when you register you agree to allow them to harvest your data which is sold to advertisers who will profile you based on your behavior and interests. Their is no reason for anyone to pay a fee when you literally are the product. When a company starts nickel and diming users it is an admission of failure. Instead of fixing the problems which caused advertisers to leave, the cost of Elon’s incompetence is being passed on to users of their platform.
September 20, 2023, 10:26:28 PM
Whether you use it or not, X will still work according to the plan they set out, eliminating some users who do not trust it. I think that is also the strategy that Elon Musk wants for this social network. In fact, what I've observed in the past few months is that X is very popular, perhaps partly due to the creator compensation program. Although there are quality issues with the content, I personally still like to use it a lot to follow updates from the market as well as some news that is not heavily censored on the platform.
Yeah you could be right but if 80% of there user base aren't paying and would choose a different platform that would probably offer the same thing but for free, I don't think that we will see X become a profitable platform for Musk. I don't have any ties or attachment to X or any creators that's famous in that platform so I am utterly pessimistic that putting a price on X would a good thing, they kind of like shooting themselves on the foot here although I'm not an expert in human behavior so I might be wrong and the need for clout exceeds the downside of using X. September 20, 2023, 04:18:43 PM
What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?
As a social media fan, I am clearly disturbed and it is possible that if something like this happens then I will leave X because I am not willing to pay Elon the monthly cost of living there. because in the end the focus of social media is on XNow it is tainted with several restrictions that we should be free to socialize within.
September 20, 2023, 02:25:10 PM
As much as I respect the fact that Musk needs ways to monetize the microblogging app, there are some things I won't take. I won't pay for a service that others will offer similarly for free, not when I don't earn a penny from it.
What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?
This idea from Elon Musk is not a welcome development at all, because if Twitter is trying to introduce a subscription package, it mustn't have to be compulsory for all users because if I can remember, YouTube also has a subscription package, whereby if subscribe, you stand the chance of watching endless videos without viewing ads while watching your favorite YouTube video, which is what Twitter should have implement, and not making it compulsory for everybody, as that is likely to drive many persons away from Twitter to an alternative free site. What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?
September 20, 2023, 01:56:35 PM
We need to see how its gonna work. It may turn out that switching to paid only model will be a be good for crypto.
First. Twitter is a shithole with insane amount of spam / shill accounts or just bots that never been used by the human at all. This is how 95% of crypto related accounts looks like. It is wrong and something have to be done to make the platform usable for the normal people.
Second. It would be a nice move if Elon Musk adds an option to pay subscription in crypto and it seems like this is actually going to happen.
Third. Paid subscription will make it expensive to run bot farms which also means that crypto airdrops will have to pay more for twitter tasks which may help you to monetize your own account. It may happen that this subscription may get paid off by the few twitter bounties.
Yes, let's hope Elon can help maximize the spread of cryptocurrencies especially in the upcoming soon to be alt season. X is the unknown. X is an alternative future. Subscription is a scourge for bots. And it will be difficult for botmasters to solve it. Elon is an experienced strategist, and his spontaneous decisions can be very important.
September 20, 2023, 01:23:20 PM
What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?
We need to see how its gonna work. It may turn out that switching to paid only model will be a be good for crypto.
First. Twitter is a shithole with insane amount of spam / shill accounts or just bots that never been used by the human at all. This is how 95% of crypto related accounts looks like. It is wrong and something have to be done to make the platform usable for the normal people.
Second. It would be a nice move if Elon Musk adds an option to pay subscription in crypto and it seems like this is actually going to happen.
Third. Paid subscription will make it expensive to run bot farms which also means that crypto airdrops will have to pay more for twitter tasks which may help you to monetize your own account. It may happen that this subscription may get paid off by the few twitter bounties.
September 20, 2023, 12:51:14 PM
My main reason is that I don't earn from the platform and have an alternative to what I get from it. Secondly, this will serve as a protest to dissuade other platform owners from following suit. If this is successful, I'm sure that with time, others will begin to make sure people pay for social media platforms.
What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?
The platform claims to fight fake accounts by imposing fees on all accounts that want to continue using the platform, but everyone knows the financial crisis that Twitter is going through and that it needs additional resources.
It is likely that this step will fail to generate revenue for the company because users will prefer to use alternatives such as Facebook, which still provides most of the main services for free.
September 20, 2023, 11:36:23 AM
Twitter became extremely crypto-friendly, and because of it's popularity in the West, most of the crypto projects made their marketing campaigns based on Twitter. If we need to pay to use Twitter, then it may lose users from third-world countries, but the Western community will still use it. The subscription fees for them will not be too much. I do not want to leave Twitter, but if it cannot bring me value greater than what I need to pay, then I have to leave the platform.
Yes, cryptocurrency projects build communities on twitter and the crypto traffic on the platform is increasing. Ever since Elon started billing people for blue tick and paying influencers for ad revenue. I knew he'll run out of funding or maintenance of such payments. I've not been active on twitter, but the platform is no longer fun, low quality and non educative contents keep popping up on my timeline. Now, asking every user to pay for using twitter will definitely add to the number of people that'll leave the platform. Elon is not the best person to manage twitter. He runs it for his personal advantage alone. The money he spent on buying the platform, he wants to triple it real quick. It's actually a bad moment for twitter users and those who use the platform for marketing purposes. Personally, I can't pay to use twitter, there are other social media platforms where I can promote products or pay for ads. One good thing with Musk is that he knows publicity a lot, he gets too many attention with twitter, anytime he changes or talks about making new rules.
Elon is a shrewd businessman. As he has mentioned before, he wants Twitter to be an open source of free speech. He wants to reduce the moderation activity on that platform and wants to make some changes to its algorithm to reduce bot accounts. Many people believe that this will just increase the spread of hate and misinformation on that platform.
September 20, 2023, 11:19:47 AM
Twitter became extremely crypto-friendly, and because of it's popularity in the West, most of the crypto projects made their marketing campaigns based on Twitter. If we need to pay to use Twitter, then it may lose users from third-world countries, but the Western community will still use it. The subscription fees for them will not be too much. I do not want to leave Twitter, but if it cannot bring me value greater than what I need to pay, then I have to leave the platform.
Yes, cryptocurrency projects build communities on twitter and the crypto traffic on the platform is increasing. Ever since Elon started billing people for blue tick and paying influencers for ad revenue. I knew he'll run out of funding or maintenance of such payments. I've not been active on twitter, but the platform is no longer fun, low quality and non educative contents keep popping up on my timeline. Now, asking every user to pay for using twitter will definitely add to the number of people that'll leave the platform. Elon is not the best person to manage twitter. He runs it for his personal advantage alone. The money he spent on buying the platform, he wants to triple it real quick. It's actually a bad moment for twitter users and those who use the platform for marketing purposes. Personally, I can't pay to use twitter, there are other social media platforms where I can promote products or pay for ads. One good thing with Musk is that he knows publicity a lot, he gets too many attention with twitter, anytime he changes or talks about making new rules.
September 20, 2023, 11:17:21 AM
No! I am not paying anything that has no return of income or benefits of course. I was inactive as well so if it really happen that they will implement a charge then good for them. 😅 Way back in 2017, when I was active in bounty hunting, Twitter campaign could make me a few dollars in a week but now even if they take it down there is nothing for me to worry about.
I am not going to pay as well but it's been a long time since I was active there and I don't use it anymore.Elon is crazy. Even anything that he thinks of, he's speaking on it vulgarly without thinking. He's successful and one of the richest person on Earth but why he's acting like childish at most times?
If he pushes this thing, we might see some other platform that will also have its own way to attract users and might even incentivize the posts there and will allow people to instead of them earning from people.
September 20, 2023, 10:59:35 AM
I believe his style and excuses are not genuine as I wonder if his X is the only social media platform with fake accounts and bots, and has others started charging users for the fight other than from the revenue they generate from ads and other means. His arrogance has cost X a lot and might continue to do so.
As much as I respect the fact that Musk needs ways to monetize the microblogging app, there are some things I won't take. I won't pay for a service that others will offer similarly for free, not when I don't earn a penny from it.
If he makes his deed good, then someone like me will surely excuse myself no matter how little he charges.
My main reason is that I don't earn from the platform and have an alternative to what I get from it. Secondly, this will serve as a protest to dissuade other platform owners from following suit. If this is successful, I'm sure that with time, others will begin to make sure people pay for social media platforms.
What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?
As much as I respect the fact that Musk needs ways to monetize the microblogging app, there are some things I won't take. I won't pay for a service that others will offer similarly for free, not when I don't earn a penny from it.
If he makes his deed good, then someone like me will surely excuse myself no matter how little he charges.
My main reason is that I don't earn from the platform and have an alternative to what I get from it. Secondly, this will serve as a protest to dissuade other platform owners from following suit. If this is successful, I'm sure that with time, others will begin to make sure people pay for social media platforms.
What about you? Are you willing to pay for X?
A dead development on arrival, sometimes you need to calm down and enjoy what life brings to the table but I think Elon Musk is overdoing his ambition on Twitter, no doubt that he is trying to recoup the investment capital but charging people to use X is ridiculous and greed. If he plan to do that, he will not only lose the bot's activities but he will also lose ordinary users that do their comment and read their timeline, how can people be paying to verify the account and that is not enough, he can do better.
A months now, bloggers and content creators have started to earn money from the platform and I believe nobody did or asked him to implement it, if he really cared about revenue that much, he shouldn't have implemented it in the first place because, with the amount he pay bi-weekly to users on that platform, if ordinary users are to minor fees, it will exceed what they will earn from the micro-blogging platform because I strongly believe that half of users live for alternative, Meta Thread platform is even waiting for him to make mistake in order to steal all his customers to the platform.
September 20, 2023, 10:52:01 AM
No! I am not paying anything that has no return of income or benefits of course. I was inactive as well so if it really happen that they will implement a charge then good for them. 😅 Way back in 2017, when I was active in bounty hunting, Twitter campaign could make me a few dollars in a week but now even if they take it down there is nothing for me to worry about.
September 20, 2023, 10:01:18 AM
I can say for myself that I stopped using Twitter a long time ago.
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I deleted my account as soon as the new owner started applying some kind of absolute freedom of expression, that is, returning banned profiles to people who called for violence, denied the Holocaust or in any other way went against common sense or historical facts. I have nothing against people using any social network, but I've done the same as millions before or after me and I don't miss tweeting one bit.
As for paying for a service, I think it makes sense, because the world is just becoming that way - free stuff will just become a thing of the past, whether someone likes it or not.
Of course, it is important for any company to generate profits to the detriment of the interests of users. On the other hand, this can help cut off a large number of bots that clutter up my notifications.
September 20, 2023, 09:33:59 AM
I can say for myself that I stopped using Twitter a long time ago.
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I deleted my account as soon as the new owner started applying some kind of absolute freedom of expression, that is, returning banned profiles to people who called for violence, denied the Holocaust or in any other way went against common sense or historical facts. I have nothing against people using any social network, but I've done the same as millions before or after me and I don't miss tweeting one bit.
As for paying for a service, I think it makes sense, because the world is just becoming that way - free stuff will just become a thing of the past, whether someone likes it or not.
September 20, 2023, 08:48:08 AM
Thank you for sharing this, I've been ignoring a lot of posts regarding X (formerly Twitter) as they are all the same statements that question the changes of the platform and just how bad Elon Musk is doing, and I have certainly grown tired of everyone's debate regarding this as I know for myself I will still be using the platform then. However, with this news, although I spend almost every day checking tweets (is this what we still call it?) and posting my own tweets I'll have to say goodbye to the platform now if this is to actually happen. X has not given me any income or opportunities to earn so I do not see a reason as to why I need to pay to use it when there are alternative platforms that I can use for free that have the same (and honestly better) features. My time using Twitter (despite the bugs and bots) was fun but not to the extent that I will spend my hard-earned money, no matter how little, just to use it.
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