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not trying to slight XCR here, but.... the really frustrating part is that the crooks behind this mess probably couldn't care less about the XCR in the BTER wallets.  but despite that, those balances (along with a ton of other lower market cap alts) could be gone forever even though they aren't actually "stolen."  just abandoned wallets.

Bter had something like 60 diff coins.  It really is a mess.  We all lost coins at Bter... XCR and BTC. 

Our biggest fear right now, is not the missing 65 million XCR becoming lost, but that the 65 million XCR might be dumped on the market at a future date and we will have 1 satoshi XCR.  We are discussing steps to prevent that.  
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not trying to slight XCR here, but.... the really frustrating part is that the crooks behind this mess probably couldn't care less about the XCR in the BTER wallets.  but despite that, those balances (along with a ton of other lower market cap alts) could be gone forever even though they aren't actually "stolen."  just abandoned wallets.
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When taking into account the amount of money tied up in their exchange and the complete lack of even a text update on the homepage..... it isn't looking good in my mind..

If Bter was concerned about their customers, they would keep us in the loop, or at least an update.  The lack of information only leads to lost customers.  

We have had our bad news as well, but we kept the community informed.
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Maybe the Chinese gangsters have sent OddJob after Lin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H8UkrKN2rQ

You got to watch out for those flying bowler hats ! ! !
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When taking into account the amount of money tied up in their exchange and the complete lack of even a text update on the homepage..... it isn't looking good in my mind..
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do you have information from bter? it is main question now.


No.

Haven't you seen the hourly updates on the Bter website?HuhHuh?

Me neither

Doing  little research reveals this:

1) when you send BTC to Bter to your assigned Bter BTC wallet, it is then transferred to the hot wallet: 17o5zDFGNvP5H2iWd7aWbhacwS1HKDE4i9.  

2) From the hot wallet, BTC is sent in blocks of 10BTC to the cold wallet: 1M2bv6sypZSp6uAEC9U4Gzvgp6jd29F87e

3) BTC is sent from the cold wallet to the hot wallet in batches of 15 BTC as well, except on 02-14-15 when a transaction of 90 BTC and another of 105 BTC was withdrawn to the hot wallet.  04:23 and 04:24 AM time stamps.

4) 8 minutes later, which is the next BTC block, 7190 BTC were withdrawn  from the COLD wallet.  
 https://blockchain.info/address/1M2bv6sypZSp6uAEC9U4Gzvgp6jd29F87e

This could only have happened IF the thief had access to the actual wallet, either on a laptop, SD card, or Memory stick.  Knowing the password to the wallet is useless without physical access.  

Current balance information had to be obtained from actually looking at the open wallet, as the theft was accomplished in the next BTC block.  Checking the Blockchain for current balance would have shown the balance before the 90 and 105 BTC withdrawl.

Physical access could only be accomplished two ways:
a) by actual presence at the computer inside Bter's offices.
b) Real-time malware connection to the affected computer.

For method "a", all that is required to complete the theft is a dishonest employee or owner and failure to close and remove the wallet from the computer after the transaction was initiated.  

For method "b", it would be necessary for the computer and wallet to have remained powered up, the wallet still open; the computer still online; and for the computer operator not to have noticed that there was mouse and text activity happening on the monitor.

Occams Razor says that the simplest explanation with the least number of assumptions is most often the correct one.

You be the judge.


BTW, check the blockchain and you will see that there is still activity on the Bter HOT WALLET, with a balance of 140 BTC at last check.
fuc*ing bter. i had 500k crypti and 100k nxt....
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Boris, Crypti Lead Developer, Lisk Advisor
Does poloniex withdrows/deposits work ?
When crypti will begin to grow, after 0.2.2  ?
How do you crypti ?

 Huh


Max on line with polo, soon all most work.
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Boris, Crypti Lead Developer, Lisk Advisor
Does poloniex withdrows/deposits work ?
When crypti will begin to grow, after 0.2.2  ?
How do you crypti ?

 Huh

We will start marketing work soon. With 0.2.1 we will launch new features, i think it's good time for marketing work (but it's my IMHO).
And with 0.2.2 we will launch custom chains and first apps on it.
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Does poloniex withdrows/deposits work ?
When crypti will begin to grow, after 0.2.2  ?
How do you crypti ?

 Huh

Does poloniex withdrows/deposits work ?
No... sent 100XCR there just today to test ...... after 30 mins, no show


When crypti will begin to grow, after 0.2.2  ?
We are already growing. 


How do you crypti ?
With style Big Daddy, with style ! ! ! !
legendary
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Does poloniex withdrows/deposits work ?
When crypti will begin to grow, after 0.2.2  ?
How do you crypti ?

 Huh
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Crypti Community Manager
New website launched: Crypti.me

Many of you already saw it, now it's official. We launched our new website we worked on for so long. It was quite a process, but we think it was worth it.

The beginning made Christine, she made the design of the front, foundation and blog page and delivered it to us around new year. I took over to create the other pages. Vera then proceed to transition them into valid websites, which can be viewed in the web browser. After that Matthew delivered us the texts and Boris made a few changes here and there.

There are still many things missing and will be added from time to time. You guys were desperately waiting for it. Therefore we thought it's better to release it now, instead to wait 2 more weeks. We hope you like it and that you will visit it very often. Thank you very much. Smiley

www.Crypti.me

What does How will you Crypti? mean on http://crypti.me/  ?

Once we have the Custom Block Chains enabled you will be able to run all kinds of stuff on the blockchain. 

SO......... How will you Crypti?

Right now it just means how you will run Crypti. On Windows, Mac OSX, Linux or your browser.
hero member
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Member of the Crypti Foundation Board of Directors
New website launched: Crypti.me

Many of you already saw it, now it's official. We launched our new website we worked on for so long. It was quite a process, but we think it was worth it.

The beginning made Christine, she made the design of the front, foundation and blog page and delivered it to us around new year. I took over to create the other pages. Vera then proceed to transition them into valid websites, which can be viewed in the web browser. After that Matthew delivered us the texts and Boris made a few changes here and there.

There are still many things missing and will be added from time to time. You guys were desperately waiting for it. Therefore we thought it's better to release it now, instead to wait 2 more weeks. We hope you like it and that you will visit it very often. Thank you very much. Smiley

www.Crypti.me

What does How will you Crypti? mean on http://crypti.me/  ?

Once we have the Custom Block Chains enabled you will be able to run all kinds of stuff on the blockchain. 

SO......... How will you Crypti?
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New website launched: Crypti.me

Many of you already saw it, now it's official. We launched our new website we worked on for so long. It was quite a process, but we think it was worth it.

The beginning made Christine, she made the design of the front, foundation and blog page and delivered it to us around new year. I took over to create the other pages. Vera then proceed to transition them into valid websites, which can be viewed in the web browser. After that Matthew delivered us the texts and Boris made a few changes here and there.

There are still many things missing and will be added from time to time. You guys were desperately waiting for it. Therefore we thought it's better to release it now, instead to wait 2 more weeks. We hope you like it and that you will visit it very often. Thank you very much. Smiley

www.Crypti.me

What does How will you Crypti? mean on http://crypti.me/  ?
hero member
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devs
do you have information from bter? it is main question now.


No.

Haven't you seen the hourly updates on the Bter website?HuhHuh?

Me neither

Doing  little research reveals this:

1) when you send BTC to Bter to your assigned Bter BTC wallet, it is then transferred to the hot wallet: 17o5zDFGNvP5H2iWd7aWbhacwS1HKDE4i9.  

2) From the hot wallet, BTC is sent in blocks of 10BTC to the cold wallet: 1M2bv6sypZSp6uAEC9U4Gzvgp6jd29F87e

3) BTC is sent from the cold wallet to the hot wallet in batches of 15 BTC as well, except on 02-14-15 when a transaction of 90 BTC and another of 105 BTC was withdrawn to the hot wallet.  04:23 and 04:24 AM time stamps.

4) 8 minutes later, which is the next BTC block, 7190 BTC were withdrawn  from the COLD wallet.  
 https://blockchain.info/address/1M2bv6sypZSp6uAEC9U4Gzvgp6jd29F87e

This could only have happened IF the thief had access to the actual wallet, either on a laptop, SD card, or Memory stick.  Knowing the password to the wallet is useless without physical access.  

Current balance information had to be obtained from actually looking at the open wallet, as the theft was accomplished in the next BTC block.  Checking the Blockchain for current balance would have shown the balance before the 90 and 105 BTC withdrawl.

Physical access could only be accomplished two ways:
a) by actual presence at the computer inside Bter's offices.
b) Real-time malware connection to the affected computer.

For method "a", all that is required to complete the theft is a dishonest employee or owner and failure to close and remove the wallet from the computer after the transaction was initiated.  

For method "b", it would be necessary for the computer and wallet to have remained powered up, the wallet still open; the computer still online; and for the computer operator not to have noticed that there was mouse and text activity happening on the monitor.

Occams Razor says that the simplest explanation with the least number of assumptions is most often the correct one.

You be the judge.


BTW, check the blockchain and you will see that there is still activity on the Bter HOT WALLET, with a balance of 140 BTC at last check.
hero member
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devs
do you have information from bter? it is main question now.


No.

Haven't you seen the hourly updates on the Bter website?HuhHuh?

Me neither
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Crypti Community Manager
devs
do you have information from bter? it is main question now.


No.
legendary
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devs
do you have information from bter? it is main question now.
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Make sure you all pay attention to the change in the faucet! It's something we have been pushing for and are happy to be able to offer more availability than what was originally pushed.

The faucet is now 50 XCR every 12 Hours.

We are also hoping to open source it and get a few more rolling so that people can get XCR more ways than just all of the scammy exchanges!

Also keep in mind that if BTER does enable withdrawals, we need to get our funds out ASAP. Not only because they are untrustworthy at this point, but also because voting weight will be assigned in 0.2.0 based on stake in the coin. So you will have greater power voting for delegates by keeping funds in your wallet address. Also, we need to limit the power that the BTER account would have by leaving them high and dry at this point.

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I know, that almost everyone is concerned at the moment about BTER, but what progress has been made on 0.2.0? It's been quite a while now since 0.1.9 has released and we haven't received any updates recently.

v0.2.0 is in testing right now. Last week I made mockups for the client, that means this week our frontend developer can start working. This doesn't take long.

So it all depends (like always) on how long the testing takes and how many bugs will be found. Smiley

Okay, thanks for the update. Any chance that we can have a sneak peak the mock-ups  Wink

It just shows the new delegates section in the wallet. As with v0.2.0 we are introducing DPOS and this requires this page (show all active delegates, show all delegates in standby, show your votes). There is not really much to see, we are creating the mockups with balsamiq. Smiley
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I know, that almost everyone is concerned at the moment about BTER, but what progress has been made on 0.2.0? It's been quite a while now since 0.1.9 has released and we haven't received any updates recently.

v0.2.0 is in testing right now. Last week I made mockups for the client, that means this week our frontend developer can start working. This doesn't take long.

So it all depends (like always) on how long the testing takes and how many bugs will be found. Smiley

Okay, thanks for the update. Any chance that we can have a sneak peak the mock-ups  Wink
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