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Excellent advice on investment tactics Litoshi. The only point on which I disagree is the price of BTC. Yes indeed it has stabilised recently at circa $600, however, I reasonably believe it will rise sharply over the next 3-4 months. This is because major retailers and companies such as Dell now accept BTC. The reason it has not yet caused price rises is that, by way of example, serious tech people do not use Dell computers running windows and as many of us are electronic engineers, we are not as much in thrall to fancy expensive gadgets as the general population are. Why spend thousands of dollars on fancy looking kit from a retailer who now accepts BTC if you can build it yourself from stuff in your parts bin? In point of fact, geeks never run MS windows at all if they can avoid it, preferring to buy state of the art motherboards and modding them for relevant applications. Accordingly they normally build their own rigs and run Ubuntu, Linux distros or maybe Mint Cinnamon.

Conclusion: Powerful reasons for BTC to rise sharply in price have had little impact on committed geeks. However, allowing a 3-4 month time lag between geek awareness and general population awareness, this indicates to me that BTC will rise sharply in 3-4 months. I estimate a 75% probability BTC will hit $800- $1100 in that time frame. Regretably this is intuitive on my part and cannot be demonstrated empirically.


Quantum:

I used to build computers as well, Greenscreens even.  Loved those Weitek co-processors and the soundblasters.  14.4 modems......wheeeeeeeeee!!!!!   Dr DOS!!!  Newsgroups!!!  No spam emails or web ads!!!  Archie, not Google!!  AH... nothing like the sound of those tones when the modem got a clean 2400 baud connection.  ISDN anyone??

Linux... been there, done that... but the programs I needed for business, such as Primivera P3 and MS Project, did not work on Linux.  It was also difficult in the 90s to find peripherals that had Linux drivers.  WinModems....YUCK!

As for BTC, and XCR, the future of cryptocurrency has to evolve out of the "Tech heads" and to the "I turn the key and it goes" crowd, especially the unbanked.  It is estimated that 80% of the world population is unbanked.  A huge market for an alternative.

Did you know that there are billions of $ sent every month from first world countries to third world countries, and that many of the receivers do not have bank accounts.  The money transfers are usually accomplished thru forex dealers located in ethnic markets, with the money hand delivered to the receiver...... at a very competitive rate of 15-20%.   Shocked

However, many of those receivers have cell phones or even smart phones.  QR Codes are the future here.  Immediate sending and receipt of cybercash, then spent locally thru merchants accepting the cybercash.  The Philippines and Mexico alone are worth 2 billion a month. A SmartPhone APP for XCR will be the match on the fuse.

The one caveat here, is that the value of the cybercash has to be relatively stable.  The 10% daily swings in BTC value that we have seen in the past will only serve to drive users away.  Consumers that will drive across town to save 3 cents on a litre or gallon of gasoline, would not put up with a cybercoin that changes value so quickly.   Would you shop in a grocery market where the price changed as much as 10% up or down in a day?  

I assure you that Dell converts their BTC received in a sale immediately into USD, Reminbi, Euros or Krona.  They need to avoid the price fluctuations.  Likely they also treat the sale as happening in a tax haven country so as to divert the income away from the US tax collectors.




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Bter update

Bter has finished testing the testnet operations and has green-lit the switch to mainnet (with some minor remarks).

We are now preparing the mainnet package for Bter and for public download, and will post both here and in our blog once it released.

Nevermind. Yes they Posted on Twitter a couple Minutes ago

Bter :
We have done Crypti (XCR) transfer on the testnet. Crypti (XCR) withdrawal will be enabled soon on the mainnet for all users.
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Bter update

Bter has finished testing the testnet operations and has green-lit the switch to mainnet (with some minor remarks).

We are now preparing the mainnet package for Bter and for public download, and will post both here and in our blog once it released.
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Its ideas like this one, and developers that can follow through that make this coin extremely exciting.

From the Crypti whitepaper;

"A merchant may create an asset to represent an item he carries or a service he provides. The vendor may choose to create a custom network for his catalog, with an asset redeemable for each item for sale. These assets, once issued, may be exchanged.

An exchange service can create its own network and fee structure to issue and exchange assets on its own blockchain, offering redemptions in and out of the exchange in return for its Crypti based assets. With this technology, blockchain based digital gold, silver, fiat, commodities, even gems may be issued as warehouse receipts against secured physical inventory or holdings in secure vaulted storage."

Not only am I excited for my day 1 purchase to explode in value, but for the first time in quite some time, I'm actually excited to see what this system will become!  

Cheers,

Wesdewayne
Controller | Cryptomen.com
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Hey Dev have you even heard word from Bter yet? I don't want to make it sound like they are holding our coins hostage for commision... But I feel like you guys should have heard from them by now.. if even a email like.. "hey we are working on it..."

We in constant contact with Bter, and know they are testing the integration before they will be ready to switch to the mainnet.

Once we hear their confirmation, we will post an update here as well.


Great to hear!! Thank you
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Hey Dev have you even heard word from Bter yet? I don't want to make it sound like they are holding our coins hostage for commision... But I feel like you guys should have heard from them by now.. if even a email like.. "hey we are working on it..."

We are in constant contact with Bter, and know they are testing the integration before they will be ready to switch to the mainnet.

Once we hear their confirmation, we will post an update here as well.
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It would be really nice to have an exchange which lets you set the stop-limits/stop-orders as percentages of price so they can dynamically adjust to market conditions. Even better if there were the ability to add in an algorithm to factor in volatility and other measures.

Litoshi's advice is very sound for trading. It would be great to have him on the Foundation Board to help manage the portfolio.

We are considering diversifying funds as 1/4 Bitcoin, 1/4 precious metals, 1/4 national currencies from resource economies and non-debtor nations like Australia, Singapore, Canada, and Norway, and 1/4 Crypti, accumulated during dips to stabilize price and useful to give new development team members a stake in the success of the project. We welcome any suggestions from the investment community on how to invest and manage the funds.

Forget the BTC part. BTC has found its trading range around $600, and will move very slowly, if at all.  Also, the value of all ALTCOINS and XCR is pegged to BTC.  Any price change in BTC affects XCR.  So that makes 50% of your investment in cryptocurrency.  far too much.

Best investment right now is stock in Silver miners, especially Silver Wheaton, Endeavor Silver.  Reason is, the price of Silver is at the cost of production for the miners.  They are barely breaking even.  Any rise in the silver price is all profit, as production costs stay relatively the same in the short term.  Miner stock typically sells for 5 times earnings.

A $2000 investment can get you 100 ounces of silver bullion or about 325 shares of EXK, Endeavor Silver.  When the silver price rises from today's $20 to $30 an ounce, your silver is now worth $3000, but the stock would have risen from $6.13 to around $13.00 ($4200)

With a $50 silver price, your bullion is worth $5000, but the stock would be selling for around $80.00 a share ($26,000).

For updated analysis on mining stocks, I recommend you check the following:

http://www.kitco.com/ind/Matlack/2014-08-05-Metals-Mining-Analysts-Ratings-Estimates-Seniors.html

http://www.kitco.com/

Excellent advice on investment tactics Litoshi. The only point on which I disagree is the price of BTC. Yes indeed it has stabilised recently at circa $600, however, I reasonably believe it will rise sharply over the next 3-4 months. This is because major retailers and companies such as Dell now accept BTC. The reason it has not yet caused price rises is that, by way of example, serious tech people do not use Dell computers running windows and as many of us are electronic engineers, we are not as much in thrall to fancy expensive gadgets as the general population are. Why spend thousands of dollars on fancy looking kit from a retailer who now accepts BTC if you can build it yourself from stuff in your parts bin? In point of fact, geeks never run MS windows at all if they can avoid it, preferring to buy state of the art motherboards and modding them for relevant applications. Accordingly they normally build their own rigs and run Ubuntu, Linux distros or maybe Mint Cinnamon.

Conclusion: Powerful reasons for BTC to rise sharply in price have had little impact on committed geeks. However, allowing a 3-4 month time lag between geek awareness and general population awareness, this indicates to me that BTC will rise sharply in 3-4 months. I estimate a 75% probability BTC will hit $800- $1100 in that time frame. Regretably this is intuitive on my part and cannot be demonstrated empirically.

Thanks again for the excellent trading tips.

Edit: Dell began accepting BTC within the last week or so. A bunch of other mainly tech retailers also announced they accept BTC very recently. What impact does this have on real tech-heads? Nil. What impact will it have on the general population who have no clue how to build electronic gadgets and no real sense of how much integrated circuits, capacitors inductors and resistors really cost and no real sense of how to assemble them into useful devices? Significant impact even though they are much slower to react, having lost the 'guidance' of the tech heads they normally mimic who have responded to these announcements with riproaring indifference. Geeks may be outnumbered millions to one. Hence BTC price rise as soon as the herd has had enough time to react suboptimally to that to which geeks have already reacted optimally.
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  Hey Dev have you even heard word from Bter yet? I don't want to make it sound like they are holding our coins hostage for commision... But I feel like you guys should have heard from them by now.. if even a email like.. "hey we are working on it..."
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Some decent video to promote the coin, is still necessary.

As mentioned previously, we have a completed script for the video and it is almost ready for production. This will be one of the priority actions after the main net is launched and we ensure stability. Members of our team will be shifting to their post-launch functions very soon and you will start to see a lot more movement on other fronts. Some things we simply haven't talked about much yet because we have been focused on a smooth and successful launch.
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Good work we just took the 34th place in Mcap   @ 2000 sat we bump Megacoin out of 31st place



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Some decent video to promote the coin, is still necessary.
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I'm sure crypti has it's own plans to get an ATM up and running but may be worth a look at these guys project...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-atm-transfair-crowdfund-europe-two-way-atms-for-10-altcoins-694691


Can't wait for the wallets today!!! 


Bter is based out of the British Virgin Islands right?  Atlantic Time Zone (AST)... So anytime now I'm sure we will get our update  Grin


Cheers
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It would be really nice to have an exchange which lets you set the stop-limits/stop-orders as percentages of price so they can dynamically adjust to market conditions. Even better if there were the ability to add in an algorithm to factor in volatility and other measures.

Litoshi's advice is very sound for trading. It would be great to have him on the Foundation Board to help manage the portfolio.

We are considering diversifying funds as 1/4 Bitcoin, 1/4 precious metals, 1/4 national currencies from resource economies and non-debtor nations like Australia, Singapore, Canada, and Norway, and 1/4 Crypti, accumulated during dips to stabilize price and useful to give new development team members a stake in the success of the project. We welcome any suggestions from the investment community on how to invest and manage the funds.

Forget the BTC part. BTC has found its trading range around $600, and will move very slowly, if at all.  Also, the value of all ALTCOINS and XCR is pegged to BTC.  Any price change in BTC affects XCR.  So that makes 50% of your investment in cryptocurrency.  far too much.

Best investment right now is stock in Silver miners, especially Silver Wheaton, Endeavor Silver.  Reason is, the price of Silver is at the cost of production for the miners.  They are barely breaking even.  Any rise in the silver price is all profit, as production costs stay relatively the same in the short term.  Miner stock typically sells for 5 times earnings.

A $2000 investment can get you 100 ounces of silver bullion or about 325 shares of EXK, Endeavor Silver.  When the silver price rises from today's $20 to $30 an ounce, your silver is now worth $3000, but the stock would have risen from $6.13 to around $13.00 ($4200)

With a $50 silver price, your bullion is worth $5000, but the stock would be selling for around $80.00 a share ($26,000).

For updated analysis on mining stocks, I recommend you check the following:

http://www.kitco.com/ind/Matlack/2014-08-05-Metals-Mining-Analysts-Ratings-Estimates-Seniors.html

http://www.kitco.com/

Yes, I like silver a lot, and see it as having a very large upside. In a hedge fund portfolio, I would go with 30% stock from resource companies, including silver, as the main growth part of the portfolio. I consider crypto assets to still be very high risk, in the category of tech start-ups, futures, and options, which would be limited to 10% of the portfolio. The rest would be an even split between 30% currencies from non-debtor and resource economies and 30% physical precious metals.
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What's crypti team doing to promote this coin? XCloudcoin had took out ad on coinmarketcap and released some awesome video even while the IPO is till ongoing.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-cld-xcloudcoin-profit-share-xcloudim-1-million-coins-722328

I posted this on the Syscoin thread as a response to this EXACT same comment:


Quote from: sebastien1234
I can guarantee that XCloudcoin paid $5 for this video on fiverr, here's the fiverr gig in question:

http://www.fiverr.com/deaun1/create-a-basic-30-second-hd-explainer-video?context=adv.cat_20.subcat_100&context_type=auto&funnel=2014081015594449310220340

Coinmarketcap offers advertising as low as $2(looks like they took the header package at $5), so that's a total of $10 for a marketing budget you are boasting..

Please advertise your coin elsewhere(you are a member of the XCloudcoin foundation), our thread is not the place for this, we paid much more than that just for the voice-over portion of our video.. Either you are trolling or did not see our video at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtobhjssZJ8


Can confirm.  EXACT same comment from Gagalady on Syscoin thread.  Just an ugly ad.
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What's crypti team doing to promote this coin? XCloudcoin had took out ad on coinmarketcap and released some awesome video even while the IPO is till ongoing.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-cld-xcloudcoin-profit-share-xcloudim-1-million-coins-722328

I posted this on the Syscoin thread as a response to this EXACT same comment:


Quote from: sebastien1234
I can guarantee that XCloudcoin paid $5 for this video on fiverr, here's the fiverr gig in question:

http://www.fiverr.com/deaun1/create-a-basic-30-second-hd-explainer-video?context=adv.cat_20.subcat_100&context_type=auto&funnel=2014081015594449310220340

Coinmarketcap offers advertising as low as $2(looks like they took the header package at $5), so that's a total of $10 for a marketing budget you are boasting..

Please advertise your coin elsewhere(you are a member of the XCloudcoin foundation), our thread is not the place for this, we paid much more than that just for the voice-over portion of our video.. Either you are trolling or did not see our video at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtobhjssZJ8

legendary
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Bter sucks.. deposits never show,  garbage,  support was no help

In the same boat right now.
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It would be really nice to have an exchange which lets you set the stop-limits/stop-orders as percentages of price so they can dynamically adjust to market conditions. Even better if there were the ability to add in an algorithm to factor in volatility and other measures.

Litoshi's advice is very sound for trading. It would be great to have him on the Foundation Board to help manage the portfolio.

We are considering diversifying funds as 1/4 Bitcoin, 1/4 precious metals, 1/4 national currencies from resource economies and non-debtor nations like Australia, Singapore, Canada, and Norway, and 1/4 Crypti, accumulated during dips to stabilize price and useful to give new development team members a stake in the success of the project. We welcome any suggestions from the investment community on how to invest and manage the funds.

Forget the BTC part. BTC has found its trading range around $600, and will move very slowly, if at all.  Also, the value of all ALTCOINS and XCR is pegged to BTC.  Any price change in BTC affects XCR.  So that makes 50% of your investment in cryptocurrency.  far too much.

Best investment right now is stock in Silver miners, especially Silver Wheaton, Endeavor Silver.  Reason is, the price of Silver is at the cost of production for the miners.  They are barely breaking even.  Any rise in the silver price is all profit, as production costs stay relatively the same in the short term.  Miner stock typically sells for 5 times earnings.

A $2000 investment can get you 100 ounces of silver bullion or about 325 shares of EXK, Endeavor Silver.  When the silver price rises from today's $20 to $30 an ounce, your silver is now worth $3000, but the stock would have risen from $6.13 to around $13.00 ($4200)

With a $50 silver price, your bullion is worth $5000, but the stock would be selling for around $80.00 a share ($26,000).

For updated analysis on mining stocks, I recommend you check the following:

http://www.kitco.com/ind/Matlack/2014-08-05-Metals-Mining-Analysts-Ratings-Estimates-Seniors.html

http://www.kitco.com/
legendary
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We are considering diversifying funds as 1/4 Bitcoin, 1/4 precious metals, 1/4 national currencies from resource economies and non-debtor nations like Australia, Singapore, Canada, and Norway, and 1/4 Crypti, accumulated during dips to stabilize price and useful to give new development team members a stake in the success of the project. We welcome any suggestions from the investment community on how to invest and manage the funds.

Well, if BTC will fail it will hurt or even kill all crypto ecosystem. From this point of view I'd say that storing 75% of funds in BTC, 10% in Crypti and 15% in cash is intelligent.

 

Wat?

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Bter sucks.. deposits never show,  garbage,  support was no help
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