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hero member
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I'm just asking because it was told that this will start 30 of June. So it is delayed yes?

Indeed, we seen that we are not ensuring a proper distribution in time and decided to push, rather then rush and have possible complications later on.
hero member
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All new code from scratch in javascript seems like a lot of work to do to scam someone. He could have just forked next or Bitcoin, or peer-coin etc.

Just a small correction, there is a team and an initial angel investor, rather then a one-man show developer.
legendary
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So where is the presell, where can we buy?

Will be announced in the coming days, we are working on the distribution mechanism to ensure a proper functioning on the launch.

I'm just asking because it was told that this will start 30 of June. So it is delayed yes?
sr. member
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I'm gonna clean up this town
A scam is a scheme that seeks to gain unfair financial advantage (cheat) over another. 

For example:

METH (cryptoMeth) was listed on Mintpal 2 weeks ago.  Immediately, millions of coins were dumped on the exchange from one wallet, and now the devs are AWOL. 

Yesterday, jackpot Coin was listed on MintPal.  9 BTC of coin was dumped immediately, dropping the proce from 1000 satoshi to 20 satoshi.  The devs are now AWOL as well.  Turns out the devs had premined 6 times as many coins as the 1% they admitted to. 

STACKCoin had a premine IPO.  He charged BTC to premine for several days before the launch.  Then he extended the premine another  day for more BTC.  Then extended it again for 12 hours.  At launch time, all went dark.  No dev, No mining, no wallets, no BTC.

So if you think that the devs of this coin are going to stick around after it gets listed on a popular exchange, you are smoking funny tobacco.  They will make lots of BTC in the IPO, and another smaller stash in the dump-after-exchange-listing.



I agree those are scams. Scam being either the coin never gets distributed, or when it does the dev is never heard from again and there was no source code.

If I Want to scam someone I would do something like:

State 100% of coins go to investors. (see no "premine" I'm legit right?)
Release the source code of the coin on github
Set an ipo with a BTC address and Escrow
Not change the IPO date, why change it if I just plan to run.
The, I simply list myself as an investor that gets a good 20-30% of the coin.

So, "pre-mine" which isn't really even a valid thing to call it with a POS coin, doesn't guarantee a scam. Nor dose Escrow guarantee that it is legit.

All new code from scratch in javascript seems like a lot of work to do to scam someone. He could have just forked next or Bitcoin, or peer-coin etc.

That said, there is much said to wait after an IPO and buy the coins on an exchange after the initial dump period.

Right - and good scammers will adjust parameters of scams so they can continue to be successful at their craft. Same shit, new package. I have not seen one mildly convincing thing here to show this will ever amount to anything. Why would people invest in something without even knowing what it is? Distribution will be terrible, the devs are taking too big of a cut, and all of that IPO money goes right to the devs. Sure they could spend it on the project out of the kindness of their heart but history has proven time and time again what will really happen. They make a ton of money from the IPO right away, send you some worthless coins, and then keep stringing everybody along until it's listed on MintPal where they make even more money dumping their share on everybody. Then they vanish since it's the Internet and nobody can do anything about it.

Why would they waste a ton of time actually trying to build something great that requires time, dedication, and skill? They can just keep running new scams, make 20 times as much money, and they barely need any skill at all. As long as people are stupid enough to buy into this crap the motivation to actually make something legitimate dwindles even further. Right now, there is a lot more money in scams that legit ventures in the altcoin world because stupid, greedy people continue to support criminals instead of doing research and using their heads.
hero member
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These people are idiot Dimitri we gonna fuck them all with our scam project
And then it's caviar, vodka at 10% alcohool and Tatiana's for the rest of our life bro

A bit a personal question if I may, Qora had the same risks, plus the developer is completely anonymous.

So how come you have participated in that IPO (which did over 100 BTC AFAIR)?
hero member
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So where is the presell, where can we buy?

Will be announced in the coming days, we are working on the distribution mechanism to ensure a proper functioning on the launch.
legendary
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So where is the presell, where can we buy?
newbie
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Раз нет русской ветки я спрошу тут.
Почему такой большой процент (15%) для разработчиков? Я думал деньги с ипо идут девам, а тут еще и 15% у них будет сосредоточено +10% на продвижение. Получается же 15% премайн. или я что-то не так понимаю?
google translate
If there are no Russian branch, I will ask here.
Why such a high percentage (15%) for developers? I thought money mortgage are virgins, and then there's 15% they will be focused on the promotion of 10%. Obtained a 15% premine. or something I do not understand?

Деньги с IPO идут не разработчикам, а на дальнейшую разработку. Будет btc адрес, по которому будут отчеты каждый месяц, куда и что ушло.
Процент по премайну скорей всего будет пересмотрен, мы обсуждаем это.
По поводу development fund (10%) он будет уменьшатся в зависимости от количество btc на IPO. Смотрите первый пост.

and could you please explain this in english too.

These people are idiot Dimitri we gonna fuck them all with our scam project
And then it's caviar, vodka at 10% alcohool and Tatiana's for the rest of our life bro


Try act in Comedy. You're good enough.
legendary
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Раз нет русской ветки я спрошу тут.
Почему такой большой процент (15%) для разработчиков? Я думал деньги с ипо идут девам, а тут еще и 15% у них будет сосредоточено +10% на продвижение. Получается же 15% премайн. или я что-то не так понимаю?
google translate
If there are no Russian branch, I will ask here.
Why such a high percentage (15%) for developers? I thought money mortgage are virgins, and then there's 15% they will be focused on the promotion of 10%. Obtained a 15% premine. or something I do not understand?

Деньги с IPO идут не разработчикам, а на дальнейшую разработку. Будет btc адрес, по которому будут отчеты каждый месяц, куда и что ушло.
Процент по премайну скорей всего будет пересмотрен, мы обсуждаем это.
По поводу development fund (10%) он будет уменьшатся в зависимости от количество btc на IPO. Смотрите первый пост.

and could you please explain this in english too.

These people are idiot Dimitri we gonna fuck them all with our scam project
And then it's caviar, vodka at 10% alcohool and Tatiana's for the rest of our life bro
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1001
A scam is a scheme that seeks to gain unfair financial advantage (cheat) over another. 

For example:

METH (cryptoMeth) was listed on Mintpal 2 weeks ago.  Immediately, millions of coins were dumped on the exchange from one wallet, and now the devs are AWOL. 

Yesterday, jackpot Coin was listed on MintPal.  9 BTC of coin was dumped immediately, dropping the proce from 1000 satoshi to 20 satoshi.  The devs are now AWOL as well.  Turns out the devs had premined 6 times as many coins as the 1% they admitted to. 

STACKCoin had a premine IPO.  He charged BTC to premine for several days before the launch.  Then he extended the premine another  day for more BTC.  Then extended it again for 12 hours.  At launch time, all went dark.  No dev, No mining, no wallets, no BTC.

So if you think that the devs of this coin are going to stick around after it gets listed on a popular exchange, you are smoking funny tobacco.  They will make lots of BTC in the IPO, and another smaller stash in the dump-after-exchange-listing.



I agree those are scams. Scam being either the coin never gets distributed, or when it does the dev is never heard from again and there was no source code.

If I Want to scam someone I would do something like:

State 100% of coins go to investors. (see no "premine" I'm legit right?)
Release the source code of the coin on github
Set an ipo with a BTC address and Escrow
Not change the IPO date, why change it if I just plan to run.
The, I simply list myself as an investor that gets a good 20-30% of the coin.

So, "pre-mine" which isn't really even a valid thing to call it with a POS coin, doesn't guarantee a scam. Nor dose Escrow guarantee that it is legit.

All new code from scratch in javascript seems like a lot of work to do to scam someone. He could have just forked next or Bitcoin, or peer-coin etc.

That said, there is much said to wait after an IPO and buy the coins on an exchange after the initial dump period.
hero member
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Member of the Crypti Foundation Board of Directors
A scam is a scheme that seeks to gain unfair financial advantage (cheat) over another. 

For example:

METH (cryptoMeth) was listed on Mintpal 2 weeks ago.  Immediately, millions of coins were dumped on the exchange from one wallet, and now the devs are AWOL. 

Yesterday, jackpot Coin was listed on MintPal.  9 BTC of coin was dumped immediately, dropping the proce from 1000 satoshi to 20 satoshi.  The devs are now AWOL as well.  Turns out the devs had premined 6 times as many coins as the 1% they admitted to. 

STACKCoin had a premine IPO.  He charged BTC to premine for several days before the launch.  Then he extended the premine another  day for more BTC.  Then extended it again for 12 hours.  At launch time, all went dark.  No dev, No mining, no wallets, no BTC.

So if you think that the devs of this coin are going to stick around after it gets listed on a popular exchange, you are smoking funny tobacco.  They will make lots of BTC in the IPO, and another smaller stash in the dump-after-exchange-listing.

legendary
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What a massive scam. Many lessons will be learned with this one, I hope.

No pain, no gain.

Huge profit need huge risk.

 Cheesy

First of all, the only people that stand to gain "huge profit" are the devs. I can't stop people from being idiots but remember this post when you lose your ass and the devs vanish with your money in a month. Why is there potential for "huge profits" here compared to any other piece of crap scam? Anybody who buys into this IPO is scary-stupid. Oh well. I tried. I've never been wrong about this before but I guess that doesn't count for much when it comes to greedy dipshits.
Cheesy  Cheesy Ooohhh thank you Jesus!)))
You are really funny guy)

Why do you want to lose money? I guess I don't get it. We've seen this same scam 100 times and it's always the same. How do people keep falling for it?

I'm curious. What is your definition of scam?
sr. member
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Раз нет русской ветки я спрошу тут.
Почему такой большой процент (15%) для разработчиков? Я думал деньги с ипо идут девам, а тут еще и 15% у них будет сосредоточено +10% на продвижение. Получается же 15% премайн. или я что-то не так понимаю?
google translate
If there are no Russian branch, I will ask here.
Why such a high percentage (15%) for developers? I thought money mortgage are virgins, and then there's 15% they will be focused on the promotion of 10%. Obtained a 15% premine. or something I do not understand?

Деньги с IPO идут не разработчикам, а на дальнейшую разработку. Будет btc адрес, по которому будут отчеты каждый месяц, куда и что ушло.
Процент по премайну скорей всего будет пересмотрен, мы обсуждаем это.
По поводу development fund (10%) он будет уменьшатся в зависимости от количество btc на IPO. Смотрите первый пост.

and could you please explain this in english too.
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Never back down !!!


In my opinion the cap should be 300 BTC with a cap of 1 BTC for investors registered before OP date. You will reach the 300 BTC for sure.

15% for devs and development is alrigth.
sr. member
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What a massive scam. Many lessons will be learned with this one, I hope.

No pain, no gain.

Huge profit need huge risk.

 Cheesy

First of all, the only people that stand to gain "huge profit" are the devs. I can't stop people from being idiots but remember this post when you lose your ass and the devs vanish with your money in a month. Why is there potential for "huge profits" here compared to any other piece of crap scam? Anybody who buys into this IPO is scary-stupid. Oh well. I tried. I've never been wrong about this before but I guess that doesn't count for much when it comes to greedy dipshits.

Maybe you are damned right.  The devs will have the hugest profit. But there are a lot of "investors" who won't miss any IPO. They dreamed they can be millionaire in one night.  
I got scammed 0.5btc by stackcoins, but I got more profit from other successful IPO.
But I also knew a guy who had been scammed for 19 times. Poor guy.
Anyway, you should judge the risk by yourself as that's your money.


Yeah but it indirectly hurts me as well because it lines the pockets of criminals, takes money out of legitimate cryptocurrencies, and damages altcoins. 99% of new coins are scams and cash grabs - empty promises, premines, lies, and vanishing devs. So by preventing idiots from supporting crime everybody wins. Only one altcoin IPO ever has paid off for investors (the original) and only one PoS-only coin has ever paid off at any given time (Blackcoin - 0% premine and the first in the new PoS-only class). Everyone keeps trying to chase the success of those two but the difference is the copycats are not only copies... but inferior in every way. Huge premines, bullshit "plans" and communities full of idiots.

Not true. Even recently earned money with NEM. Put it something like 0.01 BTC and sold stake for over 2 BTC.
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I thought money mortgage are virgins

 LOL. I adore GT! More virgins and mortgages, please!
sr. member
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I'm gonna clean up this town
What a massive scam. Many lessons will be learned with this one, I hope.

No pain, no gain.

Huge profit need huge risk.

 Cheesy

First of all, the only people that stand to gain "huge profit" are the devs. I can't stop people from being idiots but remember this post when you lose your ass and the devs vanish with your money in a month. Why is there potential for "huge profits" here compared to any other piece of crap scam? Anybody who buys into this IPO is scary-stupid. Oh well. I tried. I've never been wrong about this before but I guess that doesn't count for much when it comes to greedy dipshits.

Maybe you are damned right.  The devs will have the hugest profit. But there are a lot of "investors" who won't miss any IPO. They dreamed they can be millionaire in one night.  
I got scammed 0.5btc by stackcoins, but I got more profit from other successful IPO.
But I also knew a guy who had been scammed for 19 times. Poor guy.
Anyway, you should judge the risk by yourself as that's your money.


Yeah but it indirectly hurts me as well because it lines the pockets of criminals, takes money out of legitimate cryptocurrencies, and damages altcoins. 99% of new coins are scams and cash grabs - empty promises, premines, lies, and vanishing devs. So by preventing idiots from supporting crime everybody wins. Only one altcoin IPO ever has paid off for investors (the original) and only one PoS-only coin has ever paid off at any given time (Blackcoin - 0% premine and the first in the new PoS-only class). Everyone keeps trying to chase the success of those two but the difference is the copycats are not only copies... but inferior in every way. Huge premines, bullshit "plans" and communities full of idiots.
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interesting, and waiting fir update news
hero member
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What a massive scam. Many lessons will be learned with this one, I hope.

No pain, no gain.

Huge profit need huge risk.

 Cheesy

First of all, the only people that stand to gain "huge profit" are the devs. I can't stop people from being idiots but remember this post when you lose your ass and the devs vanish with your money in a month. Why is there potential for "huge profits" here compared to any other piece of crap scam? Anybody who buys into this IPO is scary-stupid. Oh well. I tried. I've never been wrong about this before but I guess that doesn't count for much when it comes to greedy dipshits.

Maybe you are damned right.  The devs will have the hugest profit. But there are a lot of "investors" who won't miss any IPO. They dreamed they can be millionaire in one night.  
I got scammed 0.5btc by stackcoins, but I got more profit from other successful IPO.
But I also knew a guy who had been scammed for 19 times. Poor guy.
Anyway, you should judge the risk by yourself as that's your money.


Even IF the devs have good intentions.............. well, just remember this song:

MONEY CHANGES EVERYTHING

newbie
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5) seeing your neighbors husband return home early while his wife is banging the gardener

6) I returned home early and found my wife was banging...
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