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legendary
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
Reading Mike's posts I get the impression himself and his group are adding not selling.....

When then bullets are flying get buying...

Yeah, my bet is that it would take more than a low-volume VRC-related selloff to convince Mike that he didn't get cheap coins a couple of days ago.
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Grr my account got hacked and now I have to start all over. So I am the old Grifftech Smiley
hero member
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Reading Mike's posts I get the impression himself and his group are adding not selling.....

When then bullets are flying get buying...
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Has anyone noticed that mindfox (the guy atcsecure shared code with to be peer reviewed) is now the dev of an anon coin?

Maybe we shouldn't have listened to the DRK trolls who pushed for the code review.

Although it's the multi path stuff (atcsecure's speciality) which will really make XC do special things, which comes out in XC RC 2.
hero member
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Mike x 3 - to you still own any XC?  Seems like everyone is exiting..
legendary
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
Seriously, allot of money has leaked out of XC in the last few hours into VTC, so much that the price dropped 20%, so you then come here and tell people to transfer their money over to VTC when the dump is commencing. Meaning, they would have to sell out at a 20% loss to get into a coin that's being dumped.

I can't put into words how stupid that is.

I didnt mean now and I didnt even mention buying VRC. I just said it is probably a good idea to diversify into more than one coin. I do like XC at this price but the volume is just too low. I will probably dump the rest of my XC at around 115k if VRC has a good buying oppurtunity like back to 11k.

But that doesnt mean I hate XC. There is nothing stopping me buying back into XC in the future, like when they have some news and market volume.

Between me and a friend we collectively missed out on around $80k profit by not selling XC near its high because we got too emotional yet I see the professional traders in here keep emotions out of it can easily short a coin in the short term while holding a positive outlook in the long term.

edit: Just wanted to add, yes I was very stupid to sell LTC that low but thats because I didnt understand how the markets were being manipulated and I was believing too much in price. But now that I have started trading full time I will not make the same mistake.

Firstly, your a bagholder, not people investing now. Smart people sold out ages ago and will begin rebuying now, not the other way around.

Secondly, your last few posts on the XC thread, the XC thread, have mentioned VRC a load of times. To the point where I had to check your previous posts just to make sure you wern't some VRC shill promoting the coins pump and dump around the forum.

Thirdly, you don't promote diversification when the price is well below its natural low, you promote it when it's climbing exponentially. And you definitely don't do it when the coins price is guaranteed to double in the next month.

Fourthly, Its the weekend. Since when has volume not taken a huge dive on a weekend.

Finally, if you think LTC's price has anything to do with manipulation then seriously stop trading now. Only people who don't understand how markets work claim the swings that they don't understand are because of manipulation. It's like the kids who don't get their favourite Christmas presents blaming it on Santa Claus.

I'm going to use that quote about Santa Claus and manipulation. It's an excellent metaphor.

Anyways, this seems like a non argument. If you haven't diversified originally then you shouldn't be investing. People who go 100% in on each investment arn't investors they are gamblers.

Also, if you believe for a split second that trading is for everyone it isn't. It seems everyone with access to bitcoins and an exchange now thinks of themselves as some flash Wall Street day trader, and their not. Most people lose money trading. The best advice I can give is unless you know the ins and outs of everything related to trading, don't even bother.

The smart people are the ones that know this and chose to be investors instead. They are the ones that skip from investment to investment every few months and make gains upon gains. instead of traders who make periodic gains here then periodic losses there, all the time while playing their emotions more than playing the markets, and 99% of the time, losing out on huge opportunities of exponential gains.  Investors though will spend two months doubling their money just holding in a smart investment choice. They do that four times in a year they have 16x what they started with. No traders, apart from a very small amount of us, can beat those returns, and that's only because we have spent years and years doing this professionally. People who don't have that experience are ultimately in for a very bad time, just like the poster above. If he would have just sat back, worked out in and out numbers, and doubled up every few months instead of making  trades here and there he wouldn't be sitting at the opportunity loss he is now.

Urghhh. Point I'm making is don't become traders. Not in this game. Only a few percent of the people who think they are traders will ever beat investors. Investors are where the smart people are at, traders in this game are mostly wannabes who lose allot more than they could gain.

Find two investments. buy at the bottom and hold then, sell at the top. Start again. Rinse repeat.

To put this in perspective, I spent years as a professional trader, and I rarely have more than four trading sessions a month. Pretty much all of my time is spent doing research and evaluating my current and future investments. In crypto when you can double your money every two months just by making a smart investment choice, there is near zero need to trade apart from on news or to switch investments.



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Seriously, allot of money has leaked out of XC in the last few hours into VTC, so much that the price dropped 20%, so you then come here and tell people to transfer their money over to VTC when the dump is commencing. Meaning, they would have to sell out at a 20% loss to get into a coin that's being dumped.

I can't put into words how stupid that is.

I didnt mean now and I didnt even mention buying VRC. I just said it is probably a good idea to diversify into more than one coin. I do like XC at this price but the volume is just too low. I will probably dump the rest of my XC at around 115k if VRC has a good buying oppurtunity like back to 11k.

But that doesnt mean I hate XC. There is nothing stopping me buying back into XC in the future, like when they have some news and market volume.

Between me and a friend we collectively missed out on around $80k profit by not selling XC near its high because we got too emotional yet I see the professional traders in here keep emotions out of it can easily short a coin in the short term while holding a positive outlook in the long term.

edit: Just wanted to add, yes I was very stupid to sell LTC that low but thats because I didnt understand how the markets were being manipulated and I was believing too much in price. But now that I have started trading full time I will not make the same mistake.

Firstly, your a bagholder, not people investing now. Smart people sold out ages ago and will begin rebuying now, not the other way around.

Secondly, your last few posts on the XC thread, the XC thread, have mentioned VRC a load of times. To the point where I had to check your previous posts just to make sure you wern't some VRC shill promoting the coins pump and dump around the forum.

Thirdly, you don't promote diversification when the price is well below its natural low, you promote it when it's climbing exponentially. And you definitely don't do it when the coins price is guaranteed to double in the next month.

Fourthly, Its the weekend. Since when has volume not taken a huge dive on a weekend.

Finally, if you think LTC's price has anything to do with manipulation then seriously stop trading now. Only people who don't understand how markets work claim the swings that they don't understand are because of manipulation. It's like the kids who don't get their favourite Christmas presents blaming it on Santa Claus.

I'm going to use that quote about Santa Claus and manipulation. It's an excellent metaphor.

Anyways, this seems like a non argument. If you haven't diversified originally then you shouldn't be investing. People who go 100% in on each investment arn't investors they are gamblers.

Also, if you believe for a split second that trading is for everyone it isn't. It seems everyone with access to bitcoins and an exchange now thinks of themselves as some flash Wall Street day trader, and their not. Most people lose money trading. The best advice I can give is unless you know the ins and outs of everything related to trading, don't even bother.

The smart people are the ones that know this and chose to be investors instead. They are the ones that skip from investment to investment every few months and make gains upon gains. instead of traders who make periodic gains here then periodic losses there, all the time while playing their emotions more than playing the markets, and 99% of the time, losing out on huge opportunities of exponential gains.  Investors though will spend two months doubling their money just holding in a smart investment choice. They do that four times in a year they have 16x what they started with. No traders, apart from a very small amount of us, can beat those returns, and that's only because we have spent years and years doing this professionally. People who don't have that experience are ultimately in for a very bad time, just like the poster above. If he would have just sat back, worked out in and out numbers, and doubled up every few months instead of making  trades here and there he wouldn't be sitting at the opportunity loss he is now.

Urghhh. Point I'm making is don't become traders. Not in this game. Only a few percent of the people who think they are traders will ever beat investors. Investors are where the smart people are at, traders in this game are mostly wannabes who lose allot more than they could gain.

Find two investments. buy at the bottom and hold then, sell at the top. Start again. Rinse repeat.

To put this in perspective, I spent years as a professional trader, and I rarely have more than four trading sessions a month. Pretty much all of my time is spent doing research and evaluating my current and future investments. In crypto when you can double your money every two months just by making a smart investment choice, there is near zero need to trade apart from on news or to switch investments.
sr. member
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Seriously, allot of money has leaked out of XC in the last few hours into VTC, so much that the price dropped 20%, so you then come here and tell people to transfer their money over to VTC when the dump is commencing. Meaning, they would have to sell out at a 20% loss to get into a coin that's being dumped.

I can't put into words how stupid that is.

I didnt mean now and I didnt even mention buying VRC. I just said it is probably a good idea to diversify into more than one coin. I do like XC at this price but the volume is just too low. I will probably dump the rest of my XC at around 115k if VRC has a good buying oppurtunity like back to 11k.

But that doesnt mean I hate XC. There is nothing stopping me buying back into XC in the future, like when they have some news and market volume.

Between me and a friend we collectively missed out on around $80k profit by not selling XC near its high because we got too emotional yet I see the professional traders in here keep emotions out of it can easily short a coin in the short term while holding a positive outlook in the long term.

edit: Just wanted to add, yes I was very stupid to sell LTC that low but thats because I didnt understand how the markets were being manipulated and I was believing too much in price. But now that I have started trading full time I will not make the same mistake.

I suck at trading, I am just a beginner. I only made $300 shorting VRC on the pump excluding my long gains (around $2-3k). $300 is rubbish and you will probably laugh, but how much money did Mr XC bag hold forever make in the same day? Nothing.


What other coin actually is WORTH diversifying into that you aren't afraid the dev will just pack up their bags and run?!?!   

Please, do tell us one that actually might have some long term potential that the dev is a known quantity?
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So what was the winning logo?
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Long Term Investor with Short Term Memory Loss
well bought a few more at these prices. Thanks honorcoin! Easy profit for 24 hours of mining.

I cant help myself, XC is like.... crack...
Haha, samehere
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well bought a few more at these prices. Thanks honorcoin! Easy profit for 24 hours of mining.

I cant help myself, XC is like.... crack...
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Seriously, allot of money has leaked out of XC in the last few hours into VTC, so much that the price dropped 20%, so you then come here and tell people to transfer their money over to VTC when the dump is commencing. Meaning, they would have to sell out at a 20% loss to get into a coin that's being dumped.

I can't put into words how stupid that is.

I didnt mean now and I didnt even mention buying VRC. I just said it is probably a good idea to diversify into more than one coin. I do like XC at this price but the volume is just too low. I will probably dump the rest of my XC at around 115k if VRC has a good buying oppurtunity like back to 11k.

But that doesnt mean I hate XC. There is nothing stopping me buying back into XC in the future, like when they have some news and market volume.

Between me and a friend we collectively missed out on around $80k profit by not selling XC near its high because we got too emotional yet I see the professional traders in here keep emotions out of it can easily short a coin in the short term while holding a positive outlook in the long term.

edit: Just wanted to add, yes I was very stupid to sell LTC that low but thats because I didnt understand how the markets were being manipulated and I was believing too much in price. But now that I have started trading full time I will not make the same mistake.

Firstly, your a bagholder, not people investing now. Smart people sold out ages ago and will begin rebuying now, not the other way around.

Secondly, your last few posts on the XC thread, the XC thread, have mentioned VRC a load of times. To the point where I had to check your previous posts just to make sure you wern't some VRC shill promoting the coins pump and dump around the forum.

Thirdly, you don't promote diversification when the price is well below its natural low, you promote it when it's climbing exponentially. And you definitely don't do it when the coins price is guaranteed to double in the next month.

Fourthly, Its the weekend. Since when has volume not taken a huge dive on a weekend.

Finally, if you think LTC's price has anything to do with manipulation then seriously stop trading now. Only people who don't understand how markets work claim the swings that they don't understand are because of manipulation. It's like the kids who don't get their favourite Christmas presents blaming it on Santa Claus.
legendary
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
Hey, that 19000 ask is back on mintpal. Someone bag it quick.

Ha ha. Missed it folks.
legendary
Activity: 1190
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
Hey, that 19000 ask is back on mintpal. Someone bag it quick.
hero member
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Remember its difficult to let go of large amounts at the peaks...

I see few better investments at current prices than XC.. It really stands off the page as far as I am concerned.
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Seriously, allot of money has leaked out of XC in the last few hours into VTC, so much that the price dropped 20%, so you then come here and tell people to transfer their money over to VTC when the dump is commencing. Meaning, they would have to sell out at a 20% loss to get into a coin that's being dumped.

I can't put into words how stupid that is.

I didnt mean now and I didnt even mention buying VRC. I just said it is probably a good idea to diversify into more than one coin. I do like XC at this price but the volume is just too low. I will probably dump the rest of my XC at around 115k if VRC has a good buying oppurtunity like back to 11k.

But that doesnt mean I hate XC. There is nothing stopping me buying back into XC in the future, like when they have some news and market volume.

Between me and a friend we collectively missed out on around $80k profit by not selling XC near its high because we got too emotional yet I see the professional traders in here keep emotions out of it can easily short a coin in the short term while holding a positive outlook in the long term.

edit: Just wanted to add, yes I was very stupid to sell LTC that low but thats because I didnt understand how the markets were being manipulated and I was believing too much in price. But now that I have started trading full time I will not make the same mistake.

I suck at trading, I am just a beginner. I only made $300 shorting VRC on the pump excluding my long gains (around $2-3k). $300 is rubbish and you will probably laugh, but how much money did Mr XC bag hold forever make in the same day? Nothing.
sr. member
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Also. What he fails to mention is most people lose money trading. The best thing to do is just buy and hold good investments.

I lost over $30k by not selling XC near it`s ATH, swings and roundabouts. $30k is a lot of money considering you can buy a house for $100k in most countries. I now realise the HODL until death mindset is not a good way to make money when the markets are controlled by super pumps at these low prices.

Take Litecoin for example, it hit $60 on the Chinese exchange (BTER) I was one of the few people to be able to sell some coins at that price before the crash but I had already stupidly sold most of my coins at $1.8 (sold 1700 LTC) before the pump. But again if I was bag holding LTC I would not have sold at $30 or $60 and waited for it to drop to $20.

You may as well be holding a bag of sweets because you cant get any real world money until you sell.

And this is why your not a trader. You didn't sell when the markets high, and now your trying to get people to sell when it's well below its low.

Seriously, allot of money has leaked out of XC in the last few hours into VTC, so much that the price dropped 20%, so you then come here and tell people to transfer their money over to VTC when the dump is commencing. Meaning, they would have to sell out at a 20% loss to get into a coin that's being dumped.

I can't put into words how stupid that is.

this.
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Also. What he fails to mention is most people lose money trading. The best thing to do is just buy and hold good investments.

I lost over $30k by not selling XC near it`s ATH, swings and roundabouts. $30k is a lot of money considering you can buy a house for $100k in most countries. I now realise the HODL until death mindset is not a good way to make money when the markets are controlled by super pumps at these low prices.

Take Litecoin for example, it hit $60 on the Chinese exchange (BTER) I was one of the few people to be able to sell some coins at that price before the crash but I had already stupidly sold most of my coins at $1.8 (sold 1700 LTC) before the pump. But again if I was bag holding LTC I would not have sold at $30 or $60 and waited for it to drop to $20.

You may as well be holding a bag of sweets because you cant get any real world money until you sell.

And this is why your not a trader. You didn't sell when the markets high, and now your trying to get people to sell when it's well below its low.

Seriously, allot of money has leaked out of XC in the last few hours into VTC, so much that the price dropped 20%, so you then come here and tell people to transfer their money over to VTC when the dump is commencing. Meaning, they would have to sell out at a 20% loss to get into a coin that's being dumped.

I can't put into words how stupid that is.
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Also. What he fails to mention is most people lose money trading. The best thing to do is just buy and hold good investments.

I lost over $30k by not selling XC near it`s ATH, swings and roundabouts. $30k is a lot of money considering you can buy a house for $100k in most countries. I now realise the HODL until death mindset is not a good way to make money when the markets are controlled by super pumps at these low prices.

Take Litecoin for example, it hit $60 on the Chinese exchange (BTER) I was one of the few people to be able to sell some coins at that price before the crash but I had already stupidly sold most of my coins at $1.8 (sold 1700 LTC) before the pump. But again if I was bag holding LTC I would not have sold at $30 or $60 and waited for it to drop to $20.

You may as well be holding a bag of sweets because you cant get any real world money until you sell.
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