[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1492.

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Quote from: coinweaver on September 04, 2014, 07:16:48 AM

Quote from: Atrides on September 04, 2014, 07:02:22 AM

That's interesting.

All transactions after fork have been included in blocks on both blockchains.

As example TX ef7aba30ff92401067824d066cda071d885beda411d60df993b34e8af3804881

On the right blockchain:
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/ef7aba30ff92401067824d066cda071d885beda411d60df993b34e8af3804881
Block # 202619 2014-09-04 04:29:05

And on the wrong:
http://monerochain.info/tx/ef7aba30ff92401067824d066cda071d885beda411d60df993b34e8af3804881
Block # 202615 2014-09-04 04:42:06

So, if you send coin, even on the wrong blockchain, you get payments on both forks )))

Yes, but in normal fork-situation (if bitcoin-altcoin were forked), you transaction CAN but not MUST be included in fork.
I have seen a lot of forks already ))) and normally transactions doesn't go afar

Sure, specially you can connect to both forked coin-networks and send this transaction.

But this situation is good. If you send coins to exchange, you get coins, even on wrong fork and after blockchain rebuild your coins will be on the exchange.

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Well, I don't understand why trades have been frozen because of this ! As far as I know, this only affects the incoming or outgoing transactions & it has nothing to do with trades which is only the changes in ledger book of the internal exchange site only.

P.S. I am eagerly waiting to get some cheap XMR actually Grin

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Quote from: coinweaver on September 04, 2014, 07:16:48 AM

Quote from: Atrides on September 04, 2014, 07:02:22 AM

That's interesting.

All transactions after fork have been included in blocks on both blockchains.

As example TX ef7aba30ff92401067824d066cda071d885beda411d60df993b34e8af3804881

On the right blockchain:
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/ef7aba30ff92401067824d066cda071d885beda411d60df993b34e8af3804881
Block # 202619 2014-09-04 04:29:05

And on the wrong:
http://monerochain.info/tx/ef7aba30ff92401067824d066cda071d885beda411d60df993b34e8af3804881
Block # 202615 2014-09-04 04:42:06

So, if you send coin, even on the wrong blockchain, you get payments on both forks )))

OMG
you guys are hilarious !

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Quote from: coinweaver on September 04, 2014, 07:16:48 AM

Quote from: Atrides on September 04, 2014, 07:02:22 AM

That's interesting.
All transactions after fork have been included in blocks on both blockchains.

I started using Dwarfpool soon after it launched Maxcoin (thanks Atrides, made some decent returns on that one).

Excellent pool operator.

I have been wondering if this means double spends are possible. But that doesn't look likely given that people are able to sync back to the correct fork and no coins are lost. Also, the problem was uncovered quite quickly from what I can tell.

FUD #Fail.

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Quote from: Atrides on September 04, 2014, 07:02:22 AM

That's interesting.

All transactions after fork have been included in blocks on both blockchains.

As example TX ef7aba30ff92401067824d066cda071d885beda411d60df993b34e8af3804881

On the right blockchain:
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/ef7aba30ff92401067824d066cda071d885beda411d60df993b34e8af3804881
Block # 202619 2014-09-04 04:29:05

And on the wrong:
http://monerochain.info/tx/ef7aba30ff92401067824d066cda071d885beda411d60df993b34e8af3804881
Block # 202615 2014-09-04 04:42:06

So, if you send coin, even on the wrong blockchain, you get payments on both forks )))

This is quite a development.
There are some complexities with doing such a consolidation that are worth taking a close look at. Fast block chains are more likely to have forks and longer ones, so this may not be the last time such code is useful.

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Quote from: Atrides on September 04, 2014, 07:02:22 AM

That's interesting.

All transactions after fork have been included in blocks on both blockchains.

As example TX ef7aba30ff92401067824d066cda071d885beda411d60df993b34e8af3804881

On the right blockchain:
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/ef7aba30ff92401067824d066cda071d885beda411d60df993b34e8af3804881
Block # 202619 2014-09-04 04:29:05

And on the wrong:
http://monerochain.info/tx/ef7aba30ff92401067824d066cda071d885beda411d60df993b34e8af3804881
Block # 202615 2014-09-04 04:42:06

So, if you send coin, even on the wrong blockchain, you get payments on both forks )))

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can any body just upload right blockchain for win 64bit Undecided

Atrides

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That's interesting.

All transactions after fork have been included in blocks on both blockchains.

As example TX ef7aba30ff92401067824d066cda071d885beda411d60df993b34e8af3804881

On the right blockchain:
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/ef7aba30ff92401067824d066cda071d885beda411d60df993b34e8af3804881
Block # 202619 2014-09-04 04:29:05

And on the wrong:
http://monerochain.info/tx/ef7aba30ff92401067824d066cda071d885beda411d60df993b34e8af3804881
Block # 202615 2014-09-04 04:42:06

So, if you send coin, even on the wrong blockchain, you get payments on both forks )))

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Quote from: Pilotseye on September 04, 2014, 06:45:21 AM

Quote from: pönde on September 04, 2014, 06:22:25 AM

Bittrex.com has disabled Monero.

There was an announcement that some coin will be removed. Monero was not on that list. What is going on? I was carefull and held just part of my Monero in bittrex, but I am anyway pissed of. Is Monero really removed form Bittrex or just for a while. Is there any way to got those Monero back?

Check https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-XMR
"Investigating blockchain issues"

Thank you. That is the reason. Poloniex has also problem with Monero. Lets hope they will be solved.

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Quote from: smooth on September 04, 2014, 06:41:37 AM

Quote from: skunk on September 04, 2014, 06:36:42 AM

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Quote from: skunk on September 04, 2014, 06:23:15 AM

how can i avoid it ending again on the wrong chain if i resync after redownloading the blockchain from scratch?
thank you

Download the blockchain, make a copy of it. If your sync fails, you can go back to the copy and try again.

are you saying it is just a 50/50 probability issue?

No because more and more people will be on the right chain. There are still some nodes on the broken chain but it should become increasingly rare so you will be less likely to sync with them.

ok, then i'll wait some hours before trying to sync again, thank you for explaining smooth.

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Quote from: skunk on September 04, 2014, 06:23:15 AM

how can i avoid it ending again on the wrong chain if i resync after redownloading the blockchain from scratch?
thank you

Download the blockchain, make a copy of it. If your sync fails, you can go back to the copy and try again.

Download right blockchain via torrent
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8668429

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Quote from: pönde on September 04, 2014, 06:22:25 AM

Bittrex.com has disabled Monero.

There was an announcement that some coin will be removed. Monero was not on that list. What is going on? I was carefull and held just part of my Monero in bittrex, but I am anyway pissed of. Is Monero really removed form Bittrex or just for a while. Is there any way to got those Monero back?

Check https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-XMR
"Investigating blockchain issues"

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Quote from: skunk on September 04, 2014, 06:36:42 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: skunk on September 04, 2014, 06:23:15 AM

how can i avoid it ending again on the wrong chain if i resync after redownloading the blockchain from scratch?
thank you

Download the blockchain, make a copy of it. If your sync fails, you can go back to the copy and try again.

are you saying it is just a 50/50 probability issue?

No because more and more people will be on the right chain. There are still some nodes on the broken chain but it should become increasingly rare so you will be less likely to sync with them.

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Quote from: acha on September 04, 2014, 06:35:57 AM

Quote from: Mineotaur on September 04, 2014, 05:44:50 AM

Quote from: fluffypony on September 04, 2014, 05:37:50 AM

I'd check ChainRadar first, as they are on the correct chain: http://chainradar.com/xmr/blocks

If it's not there, then yes, you need to re-download the blockchain, and then delete your wallet.bin (not the .bin.keys) and reopen it as normal. simplewallet will recreate that cache from the wallet creation date onwards, and since you never sent anything on the current chain your coins will still be there.

Erm, it's showing on both.

http://monerochain.info/tx/e977b3ba1a9bee5e6f1d1164f75a7e1ab3f72607536934beb3d813a71f64bc3e

http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/e977b3ba1a9bee5e6f1d1164f75a7e1ab3f72607536934beb3d813a71f64bc3e

My transaction on chainradar:
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/87beebbfde22c48f547799be2c4f4aee4ea377a989e98be4983e9a77989938bd

On monerochain - none...

Whom believe?

Chainradar on the right fork

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Cryptonote has been a cluster fuck from the start. Deliberately poorly coded with exploitable mining and made by a scam team. I appreciate that Monero had nothing to do with that but the algorythm is fucked at its core.

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Quote from: skunk on September 04, 2014, 06:23:15 AM

how can i avoid it ending again on the wrong chain if i resync after redownloading the blockchain from scratch?
thank you

Download the blockchain, make a copy of it. If your sync fails, you can go back to the copy and try again.

are you saying it is just a 50/50 probability issue?

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Quote from: Mineotaur on September 04, 2014, 05:44:50 AM

Quote from: fluffypony on September 04, 2014, 05:37:50 AM

I'd check ChainRadar first, as they are on the correct chain: http://chainradar.com/xmr/blocks

If it's not there, then yes, you need to re-download the blockchain, and then delete your wallet.bin (not the .bin.keys) and reopen it as normal. simplewallet will recreate that cache from the wallet creation date onwards, and since you never sent anything on the current chain your coins will still be there.

Erm, it's showing on both.

http://monerochain.info/tx/e977b3ba1a9bee5e6f1d1164f75a7e1ab3f72607536934beb3d813a71f64bc3e

http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/e977b3ba1a9bee5e6f1d1164f75a7e1ab3f72607536934beb3d813a71f64bc3e

My transaction on chainradar:
http://chainradar.com/xmr/transaction/87beebbfde22c48f547799be2c4f4aee4ea377a989e98be4983e9a77989938bd

On monerochain - none...

Whom believe?

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When can we expect for Poloniex to enable Monero market again?

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Quote from: wachtwoord on September 04, 2014, 06:10:48 AM

[...] XMR and BBR are in the same situation here. [...]

But only one of these is relevant enough to actually get attacked. Grin

_{Apologies, but I could not resist the temptation of participating in the ramble of thoughts concerning the diverse 3-lettered initiatives.}

I would like to extend wishes of a "nighty night" to tacotime, who brought forth meaning to the expression blockchain voyeur^tm.
(Note, that's a good thing, I'm just glad you're around and attentive)

~ Myagui

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