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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1974. (Read 3313076 times)

legendary
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Strange, yet attractive.
April 02, 2015, 11:37:57 AM
It is just a matter of time when Monero will reach the parity with btc.
Again, 5,000 btc marketbuy gets you there and probably 10,000-20,000 btc will hold you there...

I wonder who is the first to pull the trigger.  Huh  Roll Eyes  Grin

Heh, actually since someone first mentioned that a million dollars would get us there really got me thinking..

I mean, the sum of money we're talking about is equivalent to the spending that a single medium-sized company (worth 50-100 million USD) would typically spend on a single major facility renovation.

We're talking about something as small as adding a 30' length of hallway, and three or four production rooms with blenders and automated packaging lines in a single FDA regulated food manufacturing facility could be that much..

Just the relatively minimal amount of money is what's getting at me..

I like them odds.

Nice observation. The analogy is fairly accurate, but please let me add that the total cap for BTC is only "a mere" 3.4Bn. What we think it's "big" may be very small for ie: a hedge fund that will decide to "invest" $1Bn in BTC (or XMR) for that matter. Those funds though, are not in because they believe in crypto, rather than make more fiat from trading. So, it may cause a short bubble that will temporarily push the coin but then will fall back.

legendary
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April 02, 2015, 11:36:04 AM
the government should be freaking out about the potential implications of this tech. but they aren't. at all. not even a wiff of it. firmly in the ignore stage.

Implications? Freaking out?

It makes tax laws almost unenforceable. Not entirely because if you work at mcdonalds and buy yourself a boeing 747 for personal use one day they might just have some questions. But in a lot of cases it does.

They could still jail you. Fine you. Disrupt every aspect of your life that's not financial.

Alternatively, if StateCoin comes to pass, they'll just centralize the hardware / network and then there will be no way to AVOID tax laws if you use statecoin (and you'll have to if it becomes == USD), because the taxes are the transaction / mining fees. Unfortunately, this is the equivalent of a sales tax, which are not progressive.
G2M
sr. member
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April 02, 2015, 11:27:50 AM
It is just a matter of time when Monero will reach the parity with btc.
Again, 5,000 btc marketbuy gets you there and probably 10,000-20,000 btc will hold you there...

I wonder who is the first to pull the trigger.  Huh  Roll Eyes  Grin

Heh, actually since someone first mentioned that a million dollars would get us there really got me thinking..

I mean, the sum of money we're talking about is equivalent to the spending that a single medium-sized company (worth 50-100 million USD) would typically spend on a single major facility renovation.

We're talking about something as small as adding a 30' length of hallway, and three or four production rooms with blenders and automated packaging lines in a single FDA regulated food manufacturing facility could be that much..

Just the relatively minimal amount of money is what's getting at me..

I like them odds.
legendary
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Merit: 1217
April 02, 2015, 11:26:05 AM
the government should be freaking out about the potential implications of this tech. but they aren't. at all. not even a wiff of it. firmly in the ignore stage.

Implications? Freaking out?

It makes tax laws almost unenforceable. Not entirely because if you work at mcdonalds and buy yourself a boeing 747 for personal use one day they might just have some questions. But in a lot of cases it does.
legendary
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Merit: 1019
April 02, 2015, 11:24:12 AM
There are many in "ignore" stage, but typically they "ignore" BTC as well.

Again, my observation only.

And so they will until they can't. C'est la vie. Might as well immanetize the eschaton a bit with some laughing and light-hearted fighting. They already let the pejorative cat out of the bag when they legitimized Bitcoin. Hail Eris!
legendary
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April 02, 2015, 11:16:54 AM
I would not be surprised if Monero will be traded with multiples of bitcoins each.
Many who did not buy now will kick their legs for it.

I am looking prophetically to the day when Bitcoin is one of Monero's altcoins.  Wink
legendary
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April 02, 2015, 11:15:44 AM
the government should be freaking out about the potential implications of this tech. but they aren't. at all. not even a wiff of it. firmly in the ignore stage.

Implications? Freaking out?
legendary
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Merit: 1000
April 02, 2015, 11:15:17 AM
It is just a matter of time when Monero will reach the parity with btc.
Again, 5,000 btc marketbuy gets you there and probably 10,000-20,000 btc will hold you there...

I wonder who is the first to pull the trigger.  Huh  Roll Eyes  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
April 02, 2015, 11:11:01 AM
the government should be freaking out about the potential implications of this tech. but they aren't. at all. not even a wiff of it. firmly in the ignore stage.
legendary
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Merit: 1141
April 02, 2015, 11:09:22 AM
Where I live at least, some have gone from "laugh" to "fight" already, and that is intensifying. Bets hedged, waiting if the next stage comes  Grin

Laugh, fight, win—life Smiley

You forgot a stage :-P

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule (laugh at) you, then they fight you, and then you win."

What stage? Smiley


The ignore one is what I meant :-P

I meant that life is reciprocal.

Ah, totally misunderstood your context! Sorry for that.
donator
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April 02, 2015, 11:08:56 AM
There are many in "ignore" stage, but typically they "ignore" BTC as well.

Again, my observation only.
legendary
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Merit: 1019
April 02, 2015, 11:01:08 AM
Where I live at least, some have gone from "laugh" to "fight" already, and that is intensifying. Bets hedged, waiting if the next stage comes  Grin

Laugh, fight, win—life Smiley

You forgot a stage :-P

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule (laugh at) you, then they fight you, and then you win."

What stage? Smiley


The ignore one is what I meant :-P

I meant that life is reciprocal.
hero member
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April 02, 2015, 10:58:37 AM
Sure if that's what makes you feel nondissonant inside.
I guess at this point it's unavoidable. However, once Monero is brought to a greater level of usability, and merchants begin accepting it, Bitcoin will no longer have relevance for me.
legendary
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Merit: 1141
April 02, 2015, 10:53:40 AM
Where I live at least, some have gone from "laugh" to "fight" already, and that is intensifying. Bets hedged, waiting if the next stage comes  Grin

Laugh, fight, win—life Smiley

You forgot a stage :-P

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule (laugh at) you, then they fight you, and then you win."

What stage? Smiley

He/she most certainly is as he/she is employing a Bitcoin service paid in XMR.
From my perspective, I would only be using Monero.
Sure if that's what makes you feel nondissonant inside.

The ignore one is what I meant :-P
legendary
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Merit: 1019
April 02, 2015, 10:41:30 AM
Where I live at least, some have gone from "laugh" to "fight" already, and that is intensifying. Bets hedged, waiting if the next stage comes  Grin

Laugh, fight, win—life Smiley

You forgot a stage :-P

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule (laugh at) you, then they fight you, and then you win."

What stage? Smiley

He/she most certainly is as he/she is employing a Bitcoin service paid in XMR.
From my perspective, I would only be using Monero.
Sure if that's what makes you feel nondissonant inside.
legendary
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Merit: 1198
April 02, 2015, 10:39:19 AM
Once Monero has a GUI, I doubt I will ever use Bitcoin again. Monero will be superior in every possible way.

lol you can buy what, exactly, with monero?

Bitcoins, as an appcoin for xmr.to.


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I doubt I will ever use Bitcoin again

He's not, the merchant and xmr.to are.



He most certainly is as he is employing a Bitcoin service paid in XMR.

Only until the merchants stop getting tired of paying to convert their appcoins, and decide to accept Monero directly. Don't worry someone will build btc.to for the poor schlubs who still hold btc at that point..

hero member
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April 02, 2015, 10:38:44 AM
He/she most certainly is as he/she is employing a Bitcoin service paid in XMR.
From my perspective, I would only be using Monero.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
April 02, 2015, 10:37:51 AM
Where I live at least, some have gone from "laugh" to "fight" already, and that is intensifying. Bets hedged, waiting if the next stage comes  Grin

Laugh, fight, win—life Smiley

You forgot a stage :-P

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule (laugh at) you, then they fight you, and then you win."
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1019
April 02, 2015, 10:36:34 AM
Once Monero has a GUI, I doubt I will ever use Bitcoin again. Monero will be superior in every possible way.

lol you can buy what, exactly, with monero?

Bitcoins, as an appcoin for xmr.to.


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I doubt I will ever use Bitcoin again

He's not, the merchant and xmr.to are.



He/she most certainly is as he/she is employing a Bitcoin service paid in XMR, to access merchants denominating in Bitcoin and not Monero.
hero member
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Merit: 500
April 02, 2015, 10:33:31 AM
Once Monero has a GUI, I doubt I will ever use Bitcoin again. Monero will be superior in every possible way. (Except maybe user base and market cap at first, but that can be resolved  Wink)

Everytime I read that "monero no gui blabla" rhetoric, it makes me MAAAAAAAAAAAAD

So Monero has a GUI. Even several GUIs. Here's one of them:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmr-monerox-a-cross-platform-graphical-account-manager-for-monero-683365

The dev has been interviewed in the last missive.

And if you tell me blabla no official gui, do you even use bitcoin official gui?

Yes, I do. Except for mobile devices. I will do the same for Monero.
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