[XMR] Monero Speculation - page 344.

elrippos friend

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Quote from: KiXiNiT on February 23, 2018, 02:26:02 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Monero Ledger wallet integration is legit the longest winded most anticipated integration yet.

Will make many people happy

Yes, Q3 2019 when it will finally be released will be a historical event

Grin

Yeeeeaaaahhhhh, or Q6 2020 Grin

garytheasshole

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Chosŏn Minjujuŭi Inmin Konghwaguk

Quote from: zeroless on February 24, 2018, 05:58:21 AM

Is Monero the most mined by the viruses?
Can this influence is value?

Yes and yes, Monero is for criminals by criminals

zeroless

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Is Monero the most mined by the viruses?
Can this influence is value?

explorer

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Quote from: jagu359 on February 24, 2018, 12:58:17 AM

Fork of the Monero blockchain.
A split will occur at block 1529810 when MoneroV miners will start to create blocks on the MoneroV network. This is expected around March 14th.

Airdrop ratio 1 Monero : 10 MoneroV

Defiantly price will go up . What's your opinion on this ?

I agree. The price will go up defiantly. It always goes up that way.

monerov is a scam that will have no particular effect beyond enriching the scammers and fleecing a few sheep that choose to trade it before it goes away. Assuming that can be done somewhere. In order to dump it, someone has to bid for it...? Yes, it boggles the mind.

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Fork of the Monero blockchain.
A split will occur at block 1529810 when MoneroV miners will start to create blocks on the MoneroV network. This is expected around March 14th.

Airdrop ratio 1 Monero : 10 MoneroV

Defiantly price will go up . What's your opinion on this ?

explorer

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Quote from: cAPSLOCK on February 23, 2018, 11:49:01 PM

Quote from: rangedriver on February 23, 2018, 10:13:54 PM

Quote from: aerbax on February 23, 2018, 09:26:44 PM

Still on target?

Nope. Fundamentals disappointed.

Bearish.

Woah. That is a fairly deep turnaround from you. Care to say what fundamentals are disappointing?

Looks amazing to me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K33PoKM7vOM

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Quote from: cAPSLOCK on February 23, 2018, 11:49:01 PM

Woah. That is a fairly deep turnaround from you. Care to say what fundamentals are disappointing?

Quote from: phishead on February 24, 2018, 12:07:27 AM

Bah humbug, man. Sheesh...

Hah. Well I'm mostly wrong these days so hopefully it will serve as a reverse indicator.

BTC/USD is on a confirmed zip line which will inevitably draw all markets down. How well XMR/BTC copes remains to be seen but I was definitely hoping we'd be far higher than where we are now. In the absence of fundamental confidence one has to defer back to TA. Had we been far higher the relative slide would be a different affair.

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Quote from: rangedriver on February 23, 2018, 10:13:54 PM

Quote from: aerbax on February 23, 2018, 09:26:44 PM

Still on target?

Nope. Fundamentals disappointed.

Bearish.

Bah humbug, man. Sheesh...

cAPSLOCK

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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!

Quote from: rangedriver on February 23, 2018, 10:13:54 PM

Quote from: aerbax on February 23, 2018, 09:26:44 PM

Still on target?

Nope. Fundamentals disappointed.

Bearish.

Woah. That is a fairly deep turnaround from you. Care to say what fundamentals are disappointing?

Anon136

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Quote from: explorer on February 23, 2018, 08:57:53 PM

Glad I'm not in the UK, but I don't expect it to take them long to copy cat elsewhere. Grab Grab Grab!

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/sovereign-debt-crisis/britains-new-law-unexplained-wealth-orders-targeting-the-rich/

Monero, FTW!

It really is a technological arms race between the people and the elites. It drives me crazy because at heart I am an elitist. At least in a world where centralization is necessary. The prospect of a world run by plebs and proles is terrifying to me. But our elites are just so tyrannical, incompetent and out of touch that I actually some how find myself siding with populism in a lesser of two evils sort of way. The silver lining, I suppose, is that the same technology that is empowering the people against the elites can perhaps provide decentralized governance alternatives to all centralized power structures, be them run by populists or elitists. So, chin up lads, it isn't over yet. *edit* It might have been over if it weren't for this technology.

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Quote from: aerbax on February 23, 2018, 09:26:44 PM

Still on target?

Nope. Fundamentals disappointed.

Bearish.

Hueristic

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on February 23, 2018, 02:07:24 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on February 23, 2018, 01:13:09 PM

Quote from: ultegra on February 23, 2018, 12:18:00 PM

Quote from: garytheasshole on February 23, 2018, 11:10:39 AM

For safekeeping you're probably better off just using paper wallets. Or if paper is too unreliable medium to store information for you, you can use cryptosteel.com

oh they are a thing of beauty, although knowing my clumsy hands i would end up dropping it overboard like i did with my paperwallet

Then powder coat or galvanize it so it doesn't corrode to much while your retrieving it from the depths. Cheesy

They are made of stainless steel. The do not corrode. They are pretty damn well military grade. I have one. Worth it IMHO even though expensive.

Nice, then add a tracker!

Quote from: pönde on February 23, 2018, 02:34:13 PM

With cryptosteel there is a risk to open the bolts somehow and to mix the letters.

But if you just buy an ordinary metal stamping tool kit
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/metal-stamping-kit

and hammer the seed to a steel or aluminum plate, there is no such risk. And you can make as many back ups as you want. With very low cost.

Loctite?

Quote from: fromholland on February 23, 2018, 02:41:24 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on February 21, 2018, 02:52:54 AM

was waiting forever to get back some @ .0272

Another opportunity was there today Wink

Of course it was and when I'm in a position to get m0ar it won't be. Cheesy

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Quote from: rangedriver on December 22, 2017, 03:13:48 PM

Quote from: rangedriver on October 03, 2017, 11:22:01 AM

XMR will have at least 3.5% of BTC's marketcap by February 24th at just after 2pm PST.

You can take that to the bank. (I mean it this time.)

Seasons greetings to one and all.

Still on target.

Still on target?

explorer

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Glad I'm not in the UK, but I don't expect it to take them long to copy cat elsewhere. Grab Grab Grab!

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/sovereign-debt-crisis/britains-new-law-unexplained-wealth-orders-targeting-the-rich/

Monero, FTW!

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A long-term investment can be made for XMR. My opinion is this way. I wish I could look at the market with this eye a year ago. I probably would have bought Monero.

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Quote from: explorer on February 23, 2018, 04:48:38 PM

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on February 23, 2018, 04:25:09 PM

Quote from: explorer on February 23, 2018, 03:46:39 PM

Quote from: Shnikes101 on February 23, 2018, 10:26:43 AM

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on February 23, 2018, 09:56:29 AM

Quote from: Globb0 on February 23, 2018, 09:29:11 AM

I mean how much risk are you comfortable with 100xmr, 1000, 10?

That is a VERY good question.

The way I see it currently we have two choices coming:

1. Ledger: Established company. Hardware proven. Track record of handling security issues well etc.
2. Monero proprietary wallet. Based on FOS design, specific to XMR.

I think BOTH devices share a common risk. And that is you want to make sure there is no way for your funds to be stolen with some sort of attack. Either on the hardware, or in between the HW and the SW on the computer.

The ledger may incur a second twist, and that is they will most likely be changing the seed word format from 25 to 24 words to match the rest of the wallets they support. The only concern here is there is a reliable way to either convert these wallets to the 25 word form or somehow else see their seed word format supported by other software (inc. the standard cli and GUI).

I bought a Ledger, and I have not decided how much I am willing to risk there.

I recently bought a Ledger as well - mainly in hopes of moving some xmr over.

However, now I'm leaning towards just putting linux on a usb stick with a wallet there? Is there really that great of a security benefit for ledger vs a wallet on a usb stick? I'm just going to throw both in the fire safe.

A hardware wallet is not just security. It is convenience with security. Easily take a large amount with you traveling, and top up your Monerujo as required, without risking large amounts. Drop it overboard? Confiscated in customs? Too bad, buy or retrieve another one, and restore from your seed. or have several set up with the same seed/pass, cached at strategic locations where you travel frequently. There are many options. Decoy wallets installed to mitigate the $5 wrench attack, multiple wallets for different coins, all on the same device/seed (not the Monero only one obviously).

Yeah. I am a pretty big fan of the concept. And while not arguable AS secure is a deep freeze paper wallet it is damn close. And with the decoys etc in some ways even better.

That said, I do not think it would be impossible to add at least a couple other "big" coins to the Monero wallet, for example at least BTC?

I expect it would be trivial, as there are several precedents. Perhaps less relevant as time goes on, however. Can't remember the last BTC transaction I made without XMR.to Wink

Although I am contemplating an automobile purchase (private sale) using BTC directly, it would be a rare occurrence.

Appreciate the discussion. Now y'all have me convinced I need another Ledger Grin

explorer

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Quote from: cAPSLOCK on February 23, 2018, 04:25:09 PM

Quote from: explorer on February 23, 2018, 03:46:39 PM

Quote from: Shnikes101 on February 23, 2018, 10:26:43 AM

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on February 23, 2018, 09:56:29 AM

Quote from: Globb0 on February 23, 2018, 09:29:11 AM

I mean how much risk are you comfortable with 100xmr, 1000, 10?

That is a VERY good question.

The way I see it currently we have two choices coming:

1. Ledger: Established company. Hardware proven. Track record of handling security issues well etc.
2. Monero proprietary wallet. Based on FOS design, specific to XMR.

I think BOTH devices share a common risk. And that is you want to make sure there is no way for your funds to be stolen with some sort of attack. Either on the hardware, or in between the HW and the SW on the computer.

The ledger may incur a second twist, and that is they will most likely be changing the seed word format from 25 to 24 words to match the rest of the wallets they support. The only concern here is there is a reliable way to either convert these wallets to the 25 word form or somehow else see their seed word format supported by other software (inc. the standard cli and GUI).

I bought a Ledger, and I have not decided how much I am willing to risk there.

I recently bought a Ledger as well - mainly in hopes of moving some xmr over.

However, now I'm leaning towards just putting linux on a usb stick with a wallet there? Is there really that great of a security benefit for ledger vs a wallet on a usb stick? I'm just going to throw both in the fire safe.

A hardware wallet is not just security. It is convenience with security. Easily take a large amount with you traveling, and top up your Monerujo as required, without risking large amounts. Drop it overboard? Confiscated in customs? Too bad, buy or retrieve another one, and restore from your seed. or have several set up with the same seed/pass, cached at strategic locations where you travel frequently. There are many options. Decoy wallets installed to mitigate the $5 wrench attack, multiple wallets for different coins, all on the same device/seed (not the Monero only one obviously).

Yeah. I am a pretty big fan of the concept. And while not arguable AS secure is a deep freeze paper wallet it is damn close. And with the decoys etc in some ways even better.

That said, I do not think it would be impossible to add at least a couple other "big" coins to the Monero wallet, for example at least BTC?

I expect it would be trivial, as there are several precedents. Perhaps less relevant as time goes on, however. Can't remember the last BTC transaction I made without XMR.to Wink

Although I am contemplating an automobile purchase (private sale) using BTC directly, it would be a rare occurrence.

johnalan

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feeling hurt?
upset?
disgusted?

Nov 5th 2017 we traded at 80bucks

a month and a half later we were at 500usd

the Monero upswing will be violent, I certainly won't be short https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIpHuJNod3s.

What's he, fucking deaf?
5x in 1 month

know that.

next question

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Quote from: explorer on February 23, 2018, 03:46:39 PM

Quote from: Shnikes101 on February 23, 2018, 10:26:43 AM

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on February 23, 2018, 09:56:29 AM

Quote from: Globb0 on February 23, 2018, 09:29:11 AM

I mean how much risk are you comfortable with 100xmr, 1000, 10?

That is a VERY good question.

The way I see it currently we have two choices coming:

1. Ledger: Established company. Hardware proven. Track record of handling security issues well etc.
2. Monero proprietary wallet. Based on FOS design, specific to XMR.

I think BOTH devices share a common risk. And that is you want to make sure there is no way for your funds to be stolen with some sort of attack. Either on the hardware, or in between the HW and the SW on the computer.

The ledger may incur a second twist, and that is they will most likely be changing the seed word format from 25 to 24 words to match the rest of the wallets they support. The only concern here is there is a reliable way to either convert these wallets to the 25 word form or somehow else see their seed word format supported by other software (inc. the standard cli and GUI).

I bought a Ledger, and I have not decided how much I am willing to risk there.

I recently bought a Ledger as well - mainly in hopes of moving some xmr over.

However, now I'm leaning towards just putting linux on a usb stick with a wallet there? Is there really that great of a security benefit for ledger vs a wallet on a usb stick? I'm just going to throw both in the fire safe.

A hardware wallet is not just security. It is convenience with security. Easily take a large amount with you traveling, and top up your Monerujo as required, without risking large amounts. Drop it overboard? Confiscated in customs? Too bad, buy or retrieve another one, and restore from your seed. or have several set up with the same seed/pass, cached at strategic locations where you travel frequently. There are many options. Decoy wallets installed to mitigate the $5 wrench attack, multiple wallets for different coins, all on the same device/seed (not the Monero only one obviously).

Yeah. I am a pretty big fan of the concept. And while not arguable AS secure is a deep freeze paper wallet it is damn close. And with the decoys etc in some ways even better.

That said, I do not think it would be impossible to add at least a couple other "big" coins to the Monero wallet, for example at least BTC?

explorer

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Quote from: Shnikes101 on February 23, 2018, 10:26:43 AM

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on February 23, 2018, 09:56:29 AM

Quote from: Globb0 on February 23, 2018, 09:29:11 AM

I mean how much risk are you comfortable with 100xmr, 1000, 10?

That is a VERY good question.

The way I see it currently we have two choices coming:

1. Ledger: Established company. Hardware proven. Track record of handling security issues well etc.
2. Monero proprietary wallet. Based on FOS design, specific to XMR.

I think BOTH devices share a common risk. And that is you want to make sure there is no way for your funds to be stolen with some sort of attack. Either on the hardware, or in between the HW and the SW on the computer.

The ledger may incur a second twist, and that is they will most likely be changing the seed word format from 25 to 24 words to match the rest of the wallets they support. The only concern here is there is a reliable way to either convert these wallets to the 25 word form or somehow else see their seed word format supported by other software (inc. the standard cli and GUI).

I bought a Ledger, and I have not decided how much I am willing to risk there.

I recently bought a Ledger as well - mainly in hopes of moving some xmr over.

However, now I'm leaning towards just putting linux on a usb stick with a wallet there? Is there really that great of a security benefit for ledger vs a wallet on a usb stick? I'm just going to throw both in the fire safe.

A hardware wallet is not just security. It is convenience with security. Easily take a large amount with you traveling, and top up your Monerujo as required, without risking large amounts. Drop it overboard? Confiscated in customs? Too bad, buy or retrieve another one, and restore from your seed. or have several set up with the same seed/pass, cached at strategic locations where you travel frequently. There are many options. Decoy wallets installed to mitigate the $5 wrench attack, multiple wallets for different coins, all on the same device/seed (not the Monero only one obviously).

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