[XMR] Monero Speculation - page 433.

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Quote from: KiXiNiT on December 17, 2017, 07:57:18 AM

I wonder if/when Ledger is fully integrated with Monero if that will trigger a sizeable price increase.

Seems to be a major hurdle in people investing that don't trust themselves to create a secure wallet otherwise.

With the amount of whining and noise on the subject, if those people don't create an avalanche, it would be a shock Cheesy

They can buy the XMR, I will buy the Ledger. I guess we're both on a wait-and-see basis, just with very different priorities Roll Eyes

Quote from: Oakey22 on December 17, 2017, 08:56:09 AM

This is a major thing that a lot of people have stayed away from Monero for. Why use a ledger though when xmr will have its own opensource hardware wallet that will be even better

The more options, the better for everyone.

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Quote from: KiXiNiT on December 17, 2017, 07:57:18 AM

I wonder if/when Ledger is fully integrated with Monero if that will trigger a sizeable price increase.

Seems to be a major hurdle in people investing that don't trust themselves to create a secure wallet otherwise.

This is a major thing that a lot of people have stayed away from Monero for. Why use a ledger though when xmr will have its own opensource hardware wallet that will be even better

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I wonder if/when Ledger is fully integrated with Monero if that will trigger a sizeable price increase.

Seems to be a major hurdle in people investing that don't trust themselves to create a secure wallet otherwise.

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Quote from: CTTE on December 16, 2017, 07:53:12 PM

Quote from: sui_generis on December 16, 2017, 07:32:43 PM

Monero still underpriced. I'm not totally certain that it will exceed Ethereum by market cap, but certainly Monero deserves to be above things like Ripple and Bcash. Given that Ethereum is over $65B, Bcash and Ripple are each around $30B, I see a $50B market cap for Monero as totally realistic. Ledger wallet, multisig and bulletproofs are all yet to be priced in, so $1000+ before October 2018 is quite likely, in my opinion.

So, you are expecting Monero to increase 3x the current price in the next 10 months? When was the last time growth was that low? Think about what it has averaged for the last 2 years and if you want to be conservative discount that number. My gut feel is we should see a 7 to 15 times increase from now over the next year if the following happen as planned and no really catastrophic events derail things.

Bullet Proofs is implemented successfully
Kovri
Coinbase adoption
Multisig and major DNM adoption

If all of this comes through, I can't imagine we would not increase 10x by the end of 2018 and if we meet the $425 projection I've seen talked about by Christmas, that would be $4250. I will have 2 very Merry Christmas's in a row at that point!

I wrote this 4 weeks ago. Price /2.75 ago. I wouldn't assume that Monero is done with massive moves just yet. The supply squeeze is going to reach epic proportions eventually.

Quote from: explorer on November 20, 2017, 01:58:58 AM

One year ago, XMR was $6. A year before that, it was 40 cents. Today, XMR is $133. One year from now, 1 XMR=$______

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Quote from: realediston on December 17, 2017, 04:45:02 AM

Quote from: rinus on December 17, 2017, 04:25:04 AM

Quote from: Globb0 on December 17, 2017, 04:22:28 AM

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on December 17, 2017, 01:31:38 AM

Quote from: infofront on December 16, 2017, 08:13:09 PM

Quote from: kurious on December 15, 2017, 07:49:58 PM

Quote from: explorer on December 15, 2017, 07:39:06 PM

This is something that bears watching, IMO:
http ://redditmetrics.com/r/Monero

Out of 1.2 million /r/, Monero is:

No. 104   Fastest growing yesterday
No. 117   Fastest growing last 7 days
No. 201   Fastest growing last 30 days
No. 427   Fastest growing last 90 days

Over 1000 new subscribers per day, and accelerating. Sure, all of crypto is expanding, but to me this indicates that Monero is receiving its share of attention, and more. Ranked near top 0.1% (for # subscribers on that site) and exploding upward. This is visibility, adoption, exposure, whatever you want to call it. Here it comes.

Cool stats, they match my sense of what is happening. I see a dip against BTC and then (unlike in the past) there are immediately bargain hunters, hoovering up any signs of cheap Monero.

You have to realise you just can't buy cheap Monero any more, unless you're very quick off the mark. I am having to adjust my trading stance accordingly... Wink

EDIT: BTW, Explorer - I guess you have also spotted how the odd mention of Monero in the WO thread is allowed to pass through the velvet rope. Far more of the smarter people are keeping Monero quietly in their portfolio, it seems

It doesn't hurt that the WO moderator moonlights here.

No pain at all. As a wise man has told me... the moon is black and orange. Wink

But... all will be what all will be.

I so wish we had a like button.

We held nice and stable and poised while the madness went on that could have sent us much nearer to zero.

I still couldnt bare to flip any. I have faith in Monero!

Goooooooo!

Agreed, me as well. Can't sell any. Perfections about 4250 end of 2018 I think are a bit much, but 2000 is maybe double?

You meant predictions ?

Who predicted 4250 Huh

? please a link ?

Here was my reasoning...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.26461049

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Quote from: DaveyJones on December 17, 2017, 06:46:37 AM

RuffCT and RingCT2.0 are two different things afaik CT2.0 is the one with the trusted setup.

That's correct. The reason RuffCT/StringCT (two different names for the same thing) was put on the back burner is that only improves size but not CPU usage (still linearly related to the ring size with similar constant factors). So any large increase in ring size (the main reason for wanting it) would enormously increase processing load. At small ring sizes, there isn't much improvement in size.

This is in contract with bulletproofs which not only reduce transaction size but also appear (in early tests) to also improve processing time a bit. So that is a clear improvement and the top priority at the moment in terms of improving the efficiency of the blockchain.

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Quote from: Febo on December 17, 2017, 06:40:31 AM

Quote from: sui_generis on December 16, 2017, 08:16:55 PM

Yep, I'm just being very conservative. I think a near term price of multiple thousands would require some significant improvements in usability and privacy, however. Beyond just the space savings of bullet proofs, Monero transactions need a larger anonymity set. I don't think that the current ringsizes are sufficient for truly inscrutable privacy.

I haven't heard much about RuffCT/RingCT2.0, or whatever it's called now. If I remember correctly, using the entire blockchain as an anonymity set was mentioned at one point. Any news in this area?

That was put aside because RuffCT would need trusted setup. Monero Research Lab is still looking at progress of it, but as it is right now it cant be added to Monero.

RuffCT and RingCT2.0 are two different things afaik CT2.0 is the one with the trusted setup.

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Quote from: sui_generis on December 16, 2017, 08:16:55 PM

Yep, I'm just being very conservative. I think a near term price of multiple thousands would require some significant improvements in usability and privacy, however. Beyond just the space savings of bullet proofs, Monero transactions need a larger anonymity set. I don't think that the current ringsizes are sufficient for truly inscrutable privacy.

I haven't heard much about RuffCT/RingCT2.0, or whatever it's called now. If I remember correctly, using the entire blockchain as an anonymity set was mentioned at one point. Any news in this area?

That was put aside because RuffCT would need trusted setup. Monero Research Lab is still looking at progress of it, but as it is right now it cant be added to Monero.

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Facts are more efficient than fud

4250 seems reasonable to me--I don't think I've gone nuts, but maybe you're the last to notice? Tongue

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Quote from: realediston on December 17, 2017, 04:45:02 AM

Quote from: rinus on December 17, 2017, 04:25:04 AM

Quote from: Globb0 on December 17, 2017, 04:22:28 AM

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on December 17, 2017, 01:31:38 AM

Quote from: infofront on December 16, 2017, 08:13:09 PM

Quote from: kurious on December 15, 2017, 07:49:58 PM

Quote from: explorer on December 15, 2017, 07:39:06 PM

This is something that bears watching, IMO:
http ://redditmetrics.com/r/Monero

Out of 1.2 million /r/, Monero is:

No. 104   Fastest growing yesterday
No. 117   Fastest growing last 7 days
No. 201   Fastest growing last 30 days
No. 427   Fastest growing last 90 days

Over 1000 new subscribers per day, and accelerating. Sure, all of crypto is expanding, but to me this indicates that Monero is receiving its share of attention, and more. Ranked near top 0.1% (for # subscribers on that site) and exploding upward. This is visibility, adoption, exposure, whatever you want to call it. Here it comes.

go back 1 page on this threat

Cool stats, they match my sense of what is happening. I see a dip against BTC and then (unlike in the past) there are immediately bargain hunters, hoovering up any signs of cheap Monero.

You have to realise you just can't buy cheap Monero any more, unless you're very quick off the mark. I am having to adjust my trading stance accordingly... Wink

EDIT: BTW, Explorer - I guess you have also spotted how the odd mention of Monero in the WO thread is allowed to pass through the velvet rope. Far more of the smarter people are keeping Monero quietly in their portfolio, it seems

It doesn't hurt that the WO moderator moonlights here.

No pain at all. As a wise man has told me... the moon is black and orange. Wink

But... all will be what all will be.

I so wish we had a like button.

We held nice and stable and poised while the madness went on that could have sent us much nearer to zero.

I still couldnt bare to flip any. I have faith in Monero!

Goooooooo!

Agreed, me as well. Can't sell any. Perfections about 4250 end of 2018 I think are a bit much, but 2000 is maybe double?

You meant predictions ?

Who predicted 4250 Huh

? please a link ?

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Earn it

Quote from: rinus on December 17, 2017, 04:25:04 AM

Quote from: Globb0 on December 17, 2017, 04:22:28 AM

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on December 17, 2017, 01:31:38 AM

Quote from: infofront on December 16, 2017, 08:13:09 PM

Quote from: kurious on December 15, 2017, 07:49:58 PM

Quote from: explorer on December 15, 2017, 07:39:06 PM

This is something that bears watching, IMO:
http ://redditmetrics.com/r/Monero

Out of 1.2 million /r/, Monero is:

No. 104   Fastest growing yesterday
No. 117   Fastest growing last 7 days
No. 201   Fastest growing last 30 days
No. 427   Fastest growing last 90 days

Over 1000 new subscribers per day, and accelerating. Sure, all of crypto is expanding, but to me this indicates that Monero is receiving its share of attention, and more. Ranked near top 0.1% (for # subscribers on that site) and exploding upward. This is visibility, adoption, exposure, whatever you want to call it. Here it comes.

Cool stats, they match my sense of what is happening. I see a dip against BTC and then (unlike in the past) there are immediately bargain hunters, hoovering up any signs of cheap Monero.

You have to realise you just can't buy cheap Monero any more, unless you're very quick off the mark. I am having to adjust my trading stance accordingly... Wink

EDIT: BTW, Explorer - I guess you have also spotted how the odd mention of Monero in the WO thread is allowed to pass through the velvet rope. Far more of the smarter people are keeping Monero quietly in their portfolio, it seems

It doesn't hurt that the WO moderator moonlights here.

No pain at all. As a wise man has told me... the moon is black and orange. Wink

But... all will be what all will be.

I so wish we had a like button.

We held nice and stable and poised while the madness went on that could have sent us much nearer to zero.

I still couldnt bare to flip any. I have faith in Monero!

Goooooooo!

Agreed, me as well. Can't sell any. Perfections about 4250 end of 2018 I think are a bit much, but 2000 is maybe double?

You meant predictions ?

Who predicted 4250 Huh

? please a link ?

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Quote from: Globb0 on December 17, 2017, 04:22:28 AM

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on December 17, 2017, 01:31:38 AM

Quote from: infofront on December 16, 2017, 08:13:09 PM

Quote from: kurious on December 15, 2017, 07:49:58 PM

Quote from: explorer on December 15, 2017, 07:39:06 PM

This is something that bears watching, IMO:
http ://redditmetrics.com/r/Monero

Out of 1.2 million /r/, Monero is:

No. 104   Fastest growing yesterday
No. 117   Fastest growing last 7 days
No. 201   Fastest growing last 30 days
No. 427   Fastest growing last 90 days

Over 1000 new subscribers per day, and accelerating. Sure, all of crypto is expanding, but to me this indicates that Monero is receiving its share of attention, and more. Ranked near top 0.1% (for # subscribers on that site) and exploding upward. This is visibility, adoption, exposure, whatever you want to call it. Here it comes.

Cool stats, they match my sense of what is happening. I see a dip against BTC and then (unlike in the past) there are immediately bargain hunters, hoovering up any signs of cheap Monero.

You have to realise you just can't buy cheap Monero any more, unless you're very quick off the mark. I am having to adjust my trading stance accordingly... Wink

EDIT: BTW, Explorer - I guess you have also spotted how the odd mention of Monero in the WO thread is allowed to pass through the velvet rope. Far more of the smarter people are keeping Monero quietly in their portfolio, it seems

It doesn't hurt that the WO moderator moonlights here.

No pain at all. As a wise man has told me... the moon is black and orange. Wink

But... all will be what all will be.

I so wish we had a like button.

We held nice and stable and poised while the madness went on that could have sent us much nearer to zero.

I still couldnt bare to flip any. I have faith in Monero!

Goooooooo!

Agreed, me as well. Can't sell any. Perfections about 4250 end of 2018 I think are a bit much, but 2000 is maybe double?

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Quote from: cAPSLOCK on December 17, 2017, 01:31:38 AM

Quote from: infofront on December 16, 2017, 08:13:09 PM

Quote from: kurious on December 15, 2017, 07:49:58 PM

Quote from: explorer on December 15, 2017, 07:39:06 PM

This is something that bears watching, IMO:
http ://redditmetrics.com/r/Monero

Out of 1.2 million /r/, Monero is:

No. 104   Fastest growing yesterday
No. 117   Fastest growing last 7 days
No. 201   Fastest growing last 30 days
No. 427   Fastest growing last 90 days

Over 1000 new subscribers per day, and accelerating. Sure, all of crypto is expanding, but to me this indicates that Monero is receiving its share of attention, and more. Ranked near top 0.1% (for # subscribers on that site) and exploding upward. This is visibility, adoption, exposure, whatever you want to call it. Here it comes.

Cool stats, they match my sense of what is happening. I see a dip against BTC and then (unlike in the past) there are immediately bargain hunters, hoovering up any signs of cheap Monero.

You have to realise you just can't buy cheap Monero any more, unless you're very quick off the mark. I am having to adjust my trading stance accordingly... Wink

EDIT: BTW, Explorer - I guess you have also spotted how the odd mention of Monero in the WO thread is allowed to pass through the velvet rope. Far more of the smarter people are keeping Monero quietly in their portfolio, it seems

It doesn't hurt that the WO moderator moonlights here.

No pain at all. As a wise man has told me... the moon is black and orange. Wink

But... all will be what all will be.

I so wish we had a like button.

We held nice and stable and poised while the madness went on that could have sent us much nearer to zero.

I still couldnt bare to flip any. I have faith in Monero!

Goooooooo!

jwinterm

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Quote from: cAPSLOCK on December 17, 2017, 01:42:06 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

It's Bitcoin Cash.

No. It's whatever the fuck *I* want to call it and it is BCASH.

Are we straight?

Personally I prefer Bitcointrash myself.

Predictions for the morning - BTC smashes $20k before CME futures open and XRM gets above 0.02 for $400+ coins.

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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!

Quote from: ?? on ??

It's Bitcoin Cash.

No. It's whatever the fuck *I* want to call it and it is BCASH.

Are we straight?

cAPSLOCK

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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!

Quote from: infofront on December 16, 2017, 08:13:09 PM

Quote from: kurious on December 15, 2017, 07:49:58 PM

Quote from: explorer on December 15, 2017, 07:39:06 PM

This is something that bears watching, IMO:
http ://redditmetrics.com/r/Monero

Out of 1.2 million /r/, Monero is:

No. 104   Fastest growing yesterday
No. 117   Fastest growing last 7 days
No. 201   Fastest growing last 30 days
No. 427   Fastest growing last 90 days

Over 1000 new subscribers per day, and accelerating. Sure, all of crypto is expanding, but to me this indicates that Monero is receiving its share of attention, and more. Ranked near top 0.1% (for # subscribers on that site) and exploding upward. This is visibility, adoption, exposure, whatever you want to call it. Here it comes.

Cool stats, they match my sense of what is happening. I see a dip against BTC and then (unlike in the past) there are immediately bargain hunters, hoovering up any signs of cheap Monero.

You have to realise you just can't buy cheap Monero any more, unless you're very quick off the mark. I am having to adjust my trading stance accordingly... Wink

EDIT: BTW, Explorer - I guess you have also spotted how the odd mention of Monero in the WO thread is allowed to pass through the velvet rope. Far more of the smarter people are keeping Monero quietly in their portfolio, it seems

It doesn't hurt that the WO moderator moonlights here.

No pain at all. As a wise man has told me... the moon is black and orange. Wink

But... all will be what all will be.

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Altcoins are getting pulled when bitcoin spikes but will hit rock bottom when it goes down, monero is now sitting on the price where ETH once sat if it all goes well we might see monero climbing up the ladder at 2018.

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If XMR could break the ATH vs USD and BTC together in 2018, that would be great.

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Quote from: Hueristic on December 16, 2017, 09:00:40 PM

Stinking polo screwed me again today, put a long in at .01800020 and it filled and immediately cancelled as the price spiked. They are such fucking scammers now. I wouldn't doubt they are controlling the P&Ds as they are so much more pronounced now even with such a large market cap.

I wonder that there is not so much outcry on this issue. Or maybe I live under a rock. Regardless, they do this to me as well (the fees never disappear, only the position), and some weird shit goes on with the margin calculations when it's busy. Count yourself lucky on failing to long @ 0.018 Hope you got in lower Wink

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Fixed:

Stinking polo screwed me again today, put a long in at .01680020 ~~.01800020~~ and it filled and immediately cancelled as the price spiked. They are such fucking scammers now. I wouldn't doubt they are controlling the P&Ds as they are so much more pronounced now even with such a large market cap.

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