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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 553. (Read 3314316 times)

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September 22, 2017, 02:29:29 PM
Right now I would guess that DHL is the lion's share of the darknet economy, and as I haven't been invited, I don't think I can see what is going on there.  Can we get a report from inside please?

My suspicion is that XMR is a small minority of darknet xns, BTC being the bulk still, but that this will change when a new open-to-the-public DNM takes the lead.  eMule, Kad, BitTorrent dominate over DirectConnect, for example. DHL will not lead for long, and with Cazes dangling by his neck in Bangkok, I think that coming leader will use XMR exclusively, p > 90%, to avoid a similar fate.

The big gains in XMR are yet to come.  Not so sure the same can be said for BTC or ETH.  Whether they first come from Evergreen or from DNMs, I will not concern myself.  As Jesse Livermore noted: You don't get paid to trade; you get paid to wait.

Rising difficulties always have the effect of upward price pressure, since the marginal miner is forced to hold out for higher prices, to remain profitable.  Pricing equilibria are determined at the margins.  

Current pricing seems fair to Fisher's law, but discounts the upside speculation far more than could be called rational, presumably because the tarnish affecting ICOs after bubble phenomena like FileCoin is creating a short-term contraction of the whole crypto sector.  But that won't last long.  The sector is much more diverse now, and the time preferences of the players are longer on average.  Duration is being bid. That means the dip will be much shallower and shorter than, e.g. the post-Gox debacle.

As regards taking a flyer on a whitepaper, the false positive rate is a deal-killer right now: Too many pikers chasing too few punts.  I would keep my punt in XMR.  

P.S. the secular gold bull, dollar bear is looming again.


Profound reading as always. Thank you.

So you're as bullish on XMR as always my G?
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September 22, 2017, 02:27:30 PM
Monero is not so annonymous as many people think

its 100% anonymous and far better than other anonymous coins like XVG who claims to be better
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September 22, 2017, 02:04:42 PM
It’s funny, even these trolls can’t come up with a better solution to privacy; it almost seems as if Monero is the best in the business when it comes to anonymity.

Also, don’t forget to make use of that ignore button guys.
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
September 22, 2017, 01:18:17 PM
I don't use Deep Web so can you guys please tell me is Monero actually the most used crpytocurrency there? Which other altcoins are anonymous enough, is there any real competition against Monero?

There is no competition that can be trusted, I have no clue what is used on Dark Markets but it would make sense that now that it's widely known Monero is indeed completely fungible I would not be surprised if it is the only one being used.

"Anonymous Enough" = "A Little Bit Pregnant"  Cheesy 

LOL, ^^^ This!

Monero is not so annonymous as many people think

Prove it.

And this ^^^

Go ahead and grab your prize smart guy and prove it's not anon.
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September 22, 2017, 01:15:55 PM
Monero is now the preferred method of payment for illegal items on the deepweb and most silk road equivalents, I think that this will have a direct effect on the price and how much it will be worth in the future. I mean the whole selling point of this coin is anonymity and it worked to the tune of $90 per XMR, not to mention that it's 1:1 CPU to GPU, making it one of the only CPU mineable coins, it'll bounce above $150, as long as bad press is kept on the down low.
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Free spirit
September 22, 2017, 01:14:15 PM
There is a large bounty for cracking a Monero transaction, I believe. So anyone who says its easy, get it done then.


Bleep bleep
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Chosŏn Minjujuŭi Inmin Konghwaguk
September 22, 2017, 12:54:41 PM
I shit on trolls then eat them just to shit them again.
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Chosŏn Minjujuŭi Inmin Konghwaguk
September 22, 2017, 12:29:52 PM
Monero is not so annonymous as many people think


This. And it looks like there will be LOTS of upcoming competition in the very near future for Monero. Let's see how long it can survive with it's dated, kludgy tech, lack of true anonymity, and terribly enormous fees.

Show me proof of concept that the anonymity of monero can be compromised and I'll buy any shitcoin you tell me and kiss your ass.

Aren't you the same schmeckle that said "btc is dead, use bch the new boss"? If so your input is not worth 1 shit let alone 2 shits.
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September 22, 2017, 12:26:23 PM
Monero is not so annonymous as many people think


This. And it looks like there will be LOTS of upcoming competition in the very near future for Monero. Let's see how long it can survive with it's dated, kludgy tech, lack of true anonymity, and terribly enormous fees.
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
September 22, 2017, 12:23:41 PM
Monero is not so annonymous as many people think

Prove it.
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September 22, 2017, 12:20:24 PM
Monero is not so annonymous as many people think
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September 22, 2017, 11:51:15 AM


"Anonymous enough" isn't a thing. You have degrees to security and Monero is the highest degree. If you can trust your security to one of the lower degrees, either you don't need privacy (and can just use Bitcoin or whatever) or don't understand why you need privacy.


Well said.


"Anonymous Enough" = "A Little Bit Pregnant"  Cheesy 
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Sine secretum non libertas
September 22, 2017, 11:12:23 AM
Right now I would guess that DHL is the lion's share of the darknet economy, and as I haven't been invited, I don't think I can see what is going on there.  Can we get a report from inside please?

My suspicion is that XMR is a small minority of darknet xns, BTC being the bulk still, but that this will change when a new open-to-the-public DNM takes the lead.  eMule, Kad, BitTorrent dominate over DirectConnect, for example. DHL will not lead for long, and with Cazes dangling by his neck in Bangkok, I think that coming leader will use XMR exclusively, p > 90%, to avoid a similar fate.

The big gains in XMR are yet to come.  Not so sure the same can be said for BTC or ETH.  Whether they first come from Evergreen or from DNMs, I will not concern myself.  As Jesse Livermore noted: You don't get paid to trade; you get paid to wait.

Rising difficulties always have the effect of upward price pressure, since the marginal miner is forced to hold out for higher prices, to remain profitable.  Pricing equilibria are determined at the margins.  

Current pricing seems fair to Fisher's law, but discounts the upside speculation far more than could be called rational, presumably because the tarnish affecting ICOs after bubble phenomena like FileCoin is creating a short-term contraction of the whole crypto sector.  But that won't last long.  The sector is much more diverse now, and the time preferences of the players are longer on average.  Duration is being bid. That means the dip will be much shallower and shorter than, e.g. the post-Gox debacle.

As regards taking a flyer on a whitepaper, the false positive rate is a deal-killer right now: Too many pikers chasing too few punts.  I would keep my punt in XMR.  

P.S. the secular gold bull, dollar bear is looming again.
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Facts are more efficient than fud
September 22, 2017, 05:51:26 AM
I don't use Deep Web so can you guys please tell me is Monero actually the most used crpytocurrency there? Which other altcoins are anonymous enough, is there any real competition against Monero?

"Anonymous enough" isn't a thing. You have degrees to security and Monero is the highest degree. If you can trust your security to one of the lower degrees, either you don't need privacy (and can just use Bitcoin or whatever) or don't understand why you need privacy.
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Chosŏn Minjujuŭi Inmin Konghwaguk
September 22, 2017, 05:25:32 AM
LOL, OK I'll bite. We're still wondering why you're not glossed "garytheniceguy".  Tongue

Or "garythesmartguy".

Also. Isn't it nice that according to his own rules he has no right to respond to this. If he were to respond to it than he would be admitting that his last comment was moronic and if he doesn't respond to it than hes letting my snide remark slide with no consequence! What an amazing trap he has laid for himself.

Oh you're still here? Why haven't you started on your grand implementation where transactions are paid with fluffy ponies or dingleberries?
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September 22, 2017, 05:24:25 AM
I don't use Deep Web so can you guys please tell me is Monero actually the most used crpytocurrency there? Which other altcoins are anonymous enough, is there any real competition against Monero?
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Free spirit
September 22, 2017, 04:27:36 AM

Exactly, its not a stealth thing. Imagine everyone on trading view gets free full access, in the background it uses 20% CPU for a while as you read and view charts.


Sounds like a win win.


This charity web miner idea I also really like. Quite tempting to set that up and let monerians vote on the charity each few months.




There are already specific plugins for Chrome (No Coin) and Firefox (CoinBlock 1.0) to block coin-hive. The adblockers will soon also block the js coin miners by default. Don't really see coin-hive having much traction long term consumers will not stand for it.

That's irrelevant, you give incentive to people to want to javascript mine, for premium access time, game items, whatever. It's for websites with large userbase. You don't stealth mine in background like a fucking asshole raping their cpus and wasting their power while they have no idea what is going on.

And it is working pr0gramm.com users mined 5k usd worth of monero in just a week.
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September 22, 2017, 02:12:07 AM
LOL, OK I'll bite. We're still wondering why you're not glossed "garytheniceguy".  Tongue

Or "garythesmartguy".

Also. Isn't it nice that according to his own rules he has no right to respond to this. If he were to respond to it than he would be admitting that his last comment was moronic and if he doesn't respond to it than hes letting my snide remark slide with no consequence! What an amazing trap he has laid for himself.
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only hodl what you understand and love!
September 22, 2017, 12:09:05 AM
I say 0,06125 by December 18.2017  Shocked Grin

Pfft, you gotta be a bit more ridiculous with your speculation like people in this thread.

Like 0.07 by the end of september (10 days!) Cheesy

Its all fun and games for the bears until Monero goes up violently and never comes back.

We're still watching it, I regret for not buying more Monero 2 months ago. The price went up dramatically. As the target, 0.1 btc will be realistic target for next one year.

Kaboooommmm in the second half of December 2018  Kiss Kiss Kiss
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September 21, 2017, 11:56:34 PM
Monero is a major coin. Absolutely not fucking around 1 Bit. Sleeping giant. Kaboom.
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