[XMR] MoneroX - A cross platform graphical account manager for Monero - page 13.

canth

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Quote from: smooth on September 01, 2014, 09:24:28 PM

Quote from: canth on September 01, 2014, 09:20:41 PM

Quote from: mmortal03 on September 01, 2014, 09:04:53 PM

Quote from: canth on September 01, 2014, 09:01:11 PM

Quote from: smoothie on September 01, 2014, 06:37:39 PM

I tried 3 different versions and all of them appear to not have the functionality of having an auto-created XMR address/account.

Is it supposed to be that way? Or am I missing something?

Is there a difference between a wallet and an account? The GUI refers to accounts, specifically with 39.0 RC2 being incapable of creating an account while 38.1 is capable. Where exactly is an account stored?

Wallets are now called accounts in Monero for various reasons. They are the same thing. See my previous post for more details on importing. It would make sense to have them rename simplewallet to simpleaccount, though, right?

Thanks - I'll poke around. Yeah, simplewallet -> simpleaccount would be better. Same thing with the default account creating a wallet, wallet.bin, wallet.bin.keys, etc in the WalletData folder. Unless there's the intention to use both wallets and accounts for different reasons, that is.

No such plan. It is just that the wallet -> account concept was mentioned in the fireside chat as more of a direction than immediate change. So you will see those changes roll out over time.

Looks like it's already happening in RC2. I see AccountData\Account and associated files created instead of WalletData\wallet, etc.

smooth

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Quote from: canth on September 01, 2014, 09:20:41 PM

Quote from: mmortal03 on September 01, 2014, 09:04:53 PM

Quote from: canth on September 01, 2014, 09:01:11 PM

Quote from: smoothie on September 01, 2014, 06:37:39 PM

I tried 3 different versions and all of them appear to not have the functionality of having an auto-created XMR address/account.

Is it supposed to be that way? Or am I missing something?

Is there a difference between a wallet and an account? The GUI refers to accounts, specifically with 39.0 RC2 being incapable of creating an account while 38.1 is capable. Where exactly is an account stored?

Wallets are now called accounts in Monero for various reasons. They are the same thing. See my previous post for more details on importing. It would make sense to have them rename simplewallet to simpleaccount, though, right?

Thanks - I'll poke around. Yeah, simplewallet -> simpleaccount would be better. Same thing with the default account creating a wallet, wallet.bin, wallet.bin.keys, etc in the WalletData folder. Unless there's the intention to use both wallets and accounts for different reasons, that is.

No such plan. It is just that the wallet -> account concept was mentioned in the fireside chat as more of a direction than immediate change. So you will see those changes roll out over time.

canth

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Quote from: mmortal03 on September 01, 2014, 09:04:53 PM

Quote from: canth on September 01, 2014, 09:01:11 PM

Quote from: smoothie on September 01, 2014, 06:37:39 PM

I tried 3 different versions and all of them appear to not have the functionality of having an auto-created XMR address/account.

Is it supposed to be that way? Or am I missing something?

Is there a difference between a wallet and an account? The GUI refers to accounts, specifically with 39.0 RC2 being incapable of creating an account while 38.1 is capable. Where exactly is an account stored?

Wallets are now called accounts in Monero for various reasons. They are the same thing. See my previous post for more details on importing. It would make sense to have them rename simplewallet to simpleaccount, though, right?

Thanks - I'll poke around. Yeah, simplewallet -> simpleaccount would be better. Same thing with the default account creating a wallet, wallet.bin, wallet.bin.keys, etc in the WalletData folder. Unless there's the intention to use both wallets and accounts for different reasons, that is.

smooth

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Quote from: mmortal03 on September 01, 2014, 09:04:53 PM

It would make sense to have them rename simplewallet to simpleaccount, though, right?

That is planned, and probably already done in one of the github forks.

mmortal03

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Quote from: canth on September 01, 2014, 09:01:11 PM

Quote from: smoothie on September 01, 2014, 06:37:39 PM

I tried 3 different versions and all of them appear to not have the functionality of having an auto-created XMR address/account.

Is it supposed to be that way? Or am I missing something?

Is there a difference between a wallet and an account? The GUI refers to accounts, specifically with 39.0 RC2 being incapable of creating an account while 38.1 is capable. Where exactly is an account stored?

Wallets are now called accounts in Monero for various reasons. They are the same thing. See my previous post for more details on importing. It would make sense to have them rename simplewallet to simpleaccount, though, right?

mmortal03

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Quote from: smoothie on September 01, 2014, 06:43:58 PM

Quote from: smoothie on September 01, 2014, 06:37:39 PM

I tried 3 different versions and all of them appear to not have the functionality of having an auto-created XMR address/account.

Is it supposed to be that way? Or am I missing something?

I'll wait until the client is synced with the network first. Looks like it is "initializing" the default XMR address.

You have to use 0.38.x to create your wallet at the moment, (or, I think you could create it with the CLI simplewallet?), then import it into 0.39.x with the Backup Manager.

canth

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Quote from: smoothie on September 01, 2014, 06:37:39 PM

I tried 3 different versions and all of them appear to not have the functionality of having an auto-created XMR address/account.

Is it supposed to be that way? Or am I missing something?

Is there a difference between a wallet and an account? The GUI refers to accounts, specifically with 39.0 RC2 being incapable of creating an account while 38.1 is capable. Where exactly is an account stored?

smoothie

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Quote from: smoothie on September 01, 2014, 06:37:39 PM

I tried 3 different versions and all of them appear to not have the functionality of having an auto-created XMR address/account.

Is it supposed to be that way? Or am I missing something?

I'll wait until the client is synced with the network first. Looks like it is "initializing" the default XMR address.

smoothie

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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper

I tried 3 different versions and all of them appear to not have the functionality of having an auto-created XMR address/account.

Is it supposed to be that way? Or am I missing something?

smoothie

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After waiting long enough...i am downloading the windows GUI and will be testing it out for some time.

Will post about it here once I have something to discuss.

Jojatekok

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Quote from: icecat on September 01, 2014, 12:11:32 AM

open %localappdata%\Jojatekok\MoneroClient.Net\user.config with notepad
and delete line or fill full path of rpcwallet location

why config files "softwareAccountManager" path is blank ..

It looks like a config file update mechanism fail, there will be a quick fix in the next release for sure. Thanks for the report!

icecat

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mmortal03

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Quote from: Jojatekok on August 31, 2014, 02:29:30 PM

Quote from: mmortal03 on August 31, 2014, 12:50:02 PM

If we already re-downloaded the entire blockchain with rc1, will this be necessary to download it all yet again in rc2, or am I misunderstanding you?

You may only re-download it whether you encounter any issues regarding blockchain/account loading.

Looks good. I just tested going to rc2, and did not need to re-download the blockchain.

Jojatekok

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Quote from: mmortal03 on August 31, 2014, 12:50:02 PM

Quote from: Jojatekok on August 31, 2014, 12:43:27 PM

Quote from: fluffypony on August 31, 2014, 02:56:58 AM

Hi guys - Jojatekok has just bounced this past us in #monero-dev, and we've helped him figure out the source of his GUI client's blockchain corruption. He's going to release a new version that will fix this - if you have had a corrupt blockchain you will need to redownload, but moving forward you should not have this happen again:)

As suggested by the core development team, the blockchain should not be saved automatically every 6 minutes, as it is done by the daemon after every 8 hours. Because of the mass amounts of hard drive IO operation, the blockchain or 'account.bin' file could get corrupted. Thus, if you have issues, please switch over to v0.39.0-rc.2, and before you start using it, delete your blockchain data (which are - by default - located at '%AppData%\bitmonero'), and the 'account.bin' file, keeping 'account.bin.keys' intact!

Please be aware that this "bug" has existed for a long time, so not only the latest test versions are affected. Sorry for the inconvenience!

If we already re-downloaded the entire blockchain with rc1, will this be necessary to download it all yet again in rc2, or am I misunderstanding you?

You may only re-download it whether you encounter any issues regarding blockchain/account loading.

mmortal03

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Quote from: Jojatekok on August 31, 2014, 12:43:27 PM

Quote from: fluffypony on August 31, 2014, 02:56:58 AM

Hi guys - Jojatekok has just bounced this past us in #monero-dev, and we've helped him figure out the source of his GUI client's blockchain corruption. He's going to release a new version that will fix this - if you have had a corrupt blockchain you will need to redownload, but moving forward you should not have this happen again:)

As suggested by the core development team, the blockchain should not be saved automatically every 6 minutes, as it is done by the daemon after every 8 hours. Because of the mass amounts of hard drive IO operation, the blockchain or 'account.bin' file could get corrupted. Thus, if you have issues, please switch over to v0.39.0-rc.2, and before you start using it, delete your blockchain data (which are - by default - located at '%AppData%\bitmonero'), and the 'account.bin' file, keeping 'account.bin.keys' intact!

Please be aware that this "bug" has existed for a long time, so not only the latest test versions are affected. Sorry for the inconvenience!

If we already re-downloaded the entire blockchain with rc1, will this be necessary to download it all yet again in rc2, or am I misunderstanding you?

Jojatekok

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Quote from: fluffypony on August 31, 2014, 02:56:58 AM

Hi guys - Jojatekok has just bounced this past us in #monero-dev, and we've helped him figure out the source of his GUI client's blockchain corruption. He's going to release a new version that will fix this - if you have had a corrupt blockchain you will need to redownload, but moving forward you should not have this happen again:)

As suggested by the core development team, the blockchain should not be saved automatically every 6 minutes, as it is done by the daemon after every 8 hours. Because of the mass amounts of hard drive IO operation, the blockchain or 'account.bin' file could get corrupted. Thus, if you have issues, please switch over to v0.39.0-rc.2, and before you start using it, delete your blockchain data (which are - by default - located at '%AppData%\bitmonero'), and the 'account.bin' file, keeping 'account.bin.keys' intact!

Please be aware that this "bug" has existed for a long time, so not only the latest test versions are affected. Sorry for the inconvenience!

fluffypony

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Hi guys - Jojatekok has just bounced this past us in #monero-dev, and we've helped him figure out the source of his GUI client's blockchain corruption. He's going to release a new version that will fix this - if you have had a corrupt blockchain you will need to redownload, but moving forward you should not have this happen again:)

DrG

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Well I downloaded the whole chain again on a clean RC1 install on a new machine. I imported the 38.1 wallet but it still shows 0 coins but under accountdata it has my wallet address correct.

My 38.1 GUI wallet crashes now even trying to send 10XMR with 0.1 fee so the coins are now stuck.

I'm at a loss for words. Shocked

Pencha

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Yeah, only way to start the wallet corectly is to do delete blockchain and let it download again. But i can send only 2 coins before it stop responding. After that i have to download it again. 7 circles of hell for 15 coins Angry

mmortal03

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Quote from: Jojatekok on August 30, 2014, 11:31:20 AM

Quote from: DrG on August 30, 2014, 03:08:44 AM

Quote from: mmortal03 on August 30, 2014, 02:49:51 AM

Quote from: chris_dmd on August 30, 2014, 01:22:11 AM

If you run the GUI and choose Settings, Options then on the Paths tab is the Daemon software: pointing to the correct directory? If it is then I'm stumped cause I didn't need to change any settings for it to run. And yes \Roaming\bitmonero\ is the only data directory I can see unless it has been manually altered which you should be able to see in that same tab.

Nope, the paths are all set to their defaults, I just double-checked.

In the meantime, I did some more fooling around, deleting the AppData\Local\Jojatekok folder yet again, and moving some other stuff around, and I was finally able to get it to the point where the GUI would load the bitmonerod.exe process and start downloading the blockchain. However, it, again, wanted to start from scratch on downloading it. When trying to bootstrap it by putting blockchain.bin in the default directory (C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\BitMonero), it would just write over it on exit, but would then work from there just fine there on out.

Is there something wrong with the newest bitmonerod.exe where it can't bootstrap a blockchain.bin created with the previous version? That doesn't really make any sense to me, but it's what I'm experiencing.

At this rate, now that I have the GUI loading my wallet without crashing, and downloading the blockchain (for which I don't know what was breaking it the first place), I *could* just let it pull it all from scratch now, but I know that annoys some people with regards to bandwidth, and I really shouldn't have to do it.

Yeah I'm in the same boat. I was going to use the CLI but the new bitmonerod from the RC1 build doesn't like the current configuration

So I am trying a clean install of RC1 on my a backup system. It's downloading the blockchain again and appears to have imported the wallet correctly. Maybe I just need to copy over the "redone" blockchain.

I had to download the entire blockchain again in order to get things working. It's probably a requirement of the new CLI daemon...

Then we're good to go. I did just that overnight. I'm still not sure what was conflicting with it causing it to crash, but as long as people know to completely clear things out on the above checklist, starting completely fresh, then importing their wallet with Backup manager, I think they'll be fine. It just needs to be more explicit for people upgrading to RC1.

Btw, does this latest version not include the higher fee by default? Last time I checked, it still had the older amount programmed in.

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