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Topic: [XRP] Ripple Speculation - page 313. (Read 637637 times)

newbie
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September 22, 2017, 10:22:37 AM
There is no need for a in-between token where there is liquidity.
I follow Ripple since 2013, I'm just trying to have an healthy debate but think what you want I won't argue anymore.

sr. member
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September 22, 2017, 10:07:38 AM
Those two Information technology consulting firms (Services: "IT, business consulting") are probably under contract with Ripple to promote it so yes the slides looks nice. I'm not saying Ripple cannot succeed but I know a lot of banks or countries develop their own virtual currency without the associated volatility risk, 2020 is a long time, let's forget 2025 (probably all central bank issued tokens by then).

J Coin: Japanese banks' virtual currency without the volatility
Dozens of Japanese banks are uniting behind a new digital currency they call J Coin
https://asia.nikkei.com/Markets/Currencies/J-Coin-Japanese-banks-virtual-currency-without-the-volatility

Europe is also developing instant payment to start next year "TARGET instant payment settlement (TIPS)".
https://www.ft.com/content/7b2966ee-dee7-30db-a2cb-2acf516d6a8b

again I'm not a hater but I've seen similar slides before.
Bruuuuuuhhh stop butthurt ...if you research properly you will find out why you need a universal exchange medium token coin between all those banks bruuuuuuuuuhhhhh
newbie
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September 22, 2017, 09:46:39 AM
Those two Information technology consulting firms (Services: "IT, business consulting") are probably under contract with Ripple to promote it so yes the slides looks nice. I'm not saying Ripple cannot succeed but I know a lot of banks or countries develop their own virtual currency without the associated volatility risk, 2020 is a long time, let's forget 2025 (probably all central bank issued tokens by then).

J Coin: Japanese banks' virtual currency without the volatility
Dozens of Japanese banks are uniting behind a new digital currency they call J Coin
https://asia.nikkei.com/Markets/Currencies/J-Coin-Japanese-banks-virtual-currency-without-the-volatility

Europe is also developing instant payment to start next year "TARGET instant payment settlement (TIPS)".
https://www.ft.com/content/7b2966ee-dee7-30db-a2cb-2acf516d6a8b

again I'm not a hater but I've seen similar slides before.
member
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September 22, 2017, 08:53:59 AM
More banks implementing it should increase the price more and more, i think before the end of 2017 it should rise to moon

I really hope it does, since XRP is so far me worst investment - in terms of buy high, sell low - I bought at the peak  Grin Grin
You dont lose until you sell. So be brave enough to hold until you make profit. All these coins will come back up one day or another, so hang in tight there.

From your mouth to God's ears!
God didn't hear anything. I pray he make price comeback to 0.4$ but he didn't do anything
sr. member
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September 22, 2017, 08:21:51 AM
Stolen from xrpchat for education purposes

Both Dimension Data and Everis are owned by NTT Data.  Below are some basic facts about all three companies.

NTT Data

$14.6 billion in annual revenue
120,000 employees
HQ in Tokoyo
Dimension Data

$7.5 billion in annual revenue
30,000 employees
HQ in Johannesburg
Everis

$1 billion in annual revenue
19,000 employees
Offices in 16 countries
The LinkedIn profiles of all three presenters can be accessed via below.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/josepalvarezperez/?ppe=1
https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-van-den-heever-4042281/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/arruebarrena/
The webinar was very informative.  The presenters made an important point that Brad Garlinghouse, CEO of Ripple, also likes to make.  For the financial services sector, there are very few production ready blockchains.  Also, based on the presentation, I concluded the other production ready blockchains for the financial services sector compliment, rather than compete with, Ripple.



Below is the current state of the RTGS systems.



Below is what NTT Data and their subsidiaries think the landscape will look like.  XRP is key to "settle cross-currency transactions in real-time".  Notice they do not expect critical mass adoption until 2020-2025.



With the ILP, they also expect additional use cases of Ripple and XRP to develop.



The below slide shows how banks settlement systems can be linked with ILP.



Also, the list of those who attended can be accessed (if the attendee chose to make their profile public). Below are some of the companies who had representatives attend the webinar.

ADP
American Express
BNY Mellon
Dell
EY
Fidelity
GE
Hewlett Packard Enterprise
Honeywell
IBM
Intel
Microsoft
Northern Trust
PwC
RBC Royal Bank
Red Hat
Shell International
Standard Bank
SunTrust Bank
TD Bank
There are no guarantees with any of this, but as JoelKatz has said, making a bet on Ripple and XRP is a smart bet.

Lastly, I do not understand why people criticize Ripple for XRP not being used as much everyone would like.  Or why they were irate when they found out Ripple was charging for their software.  Which would be better to have?  A free blockchain technology that has been adopted by 0 banks but requires the use of their useless native currency/token.  Or a blockchain technology that has been adopted by 100 banks and counting (according to the presentation) in which they must pay for, and whose native currency/token has the potential to revolutionize an entire industry.
putting this in front
full member
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September 22, 2017, 07:18:49 AM
More banks implementing it should increase the price more and more, i think before the end of 2017 it should rise to moon

I really hope it does, since XRP is so far me worst investment - in terms of buy high, sell low - I bought at the peak  Grin Grin
You dont lose until you sell. So be brave enough to hold until you make profit. All these coins will come back up one day or another, so hang in tight there.

From your mouth to God's ears!
sr. member
Activity: 1099
Merit: 267
September 22, 2017, 05:44:33 AM
Stolen from xrpchat for education purposes
Presentation from companies below

Both Dimension Data and Everis are owned by NTT Data.  Below are some basic facts about all three companies.

NTT Data

$14.6 billion in annual revenue
120,000 employees
HQ in Tokoyo
Dimension Data

$7.5 billion in annual revenue
30,000 employees
HQ in Johannesburg
Everis

$1 billion in annual revenue
19,000 employees
Offices in 16 countries
The LinkedIn profiles of all three presenters can be accessed via below.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/josepalvarezperez/?ppe=1
https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-van-den-heever-4042281/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/arruebarrena/
The webinar was very informative.  The presenters made an important point that Brad Garlinghouse, CEO of Ripple, also likes to make.  For the financial services sector, there are very few production ready blockchains.  Also, based on the presentation, I concluded the other production ready blockchains for the financial services sector compliment, rather than compete with, Ripple.



Below is the current state of the RTGS systems.



Below is what NTT Data and their subsidiaries think the landscape will look like.  XRP is key to "settle cross-currency transactions in real-time".  Notice they do not expect critical mass adoption until 2020-2025.



With the ILP, they also expect additional use cases of Ripple and XRP to develop.



The below slide shows how banks settlement systems can be linked with ILP.



Also, the list of those who attended can be accessed (if the attendee chose to make their profile public). Below are some of the companies who had representatives attend the webinar.

ADP
American Express
BNY Mellon
Dell
EY
Fidelity
GE
Hewlett Packard Enterprise
Honeywell
IBM
Intel
Microsoft
Northern Trust
PwC
RBC Royal Bank
Red Hat
Shell International
Standard Bank
SunTrust Bank
TD Bank
There are no guarantees with any of this, but as JoelKatz has said, making a bet on Ripple and XRP is a smart bet.

Lastly, I do not understand why people criticize Ripple for XRP not being used as much everyone would like.  Or why they were irate when they found out Ripple was charging for their software.  Which would be better to have?  A free blockchain technology that has been adopted by 0 banks but requires the use of their useless native currency/token.  Or a blockchain technology that has been adopted by 100 banks and counting (according to the presentation) in which they must pay for, and whose native currency/token has the potential to revolutionize an entire industry.
hero member
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September 22, 2017, 04:39:20 AM



All of this seems very accurate about the developments lately

Illuminati confirmed

Illuminati theory seems more likely than other fud shoved on ripple Smiley
sr. member
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September 22, 2017, 03:20:06 AM



All of this seems very accurate about the developments lately

Illuminati confirmed
sr. member
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September 22, 2017, 12:51:36 AM
Ripple is old and already after huge gains. Better invest in new products like chainlink

ya, but looks like it's completed:
The LINK Token Sale Has Been Completed
but chainlink can x5 or x10 in this year. about ripple I think it can't happen. just hope it can go back price at 0.5$


Fancy stuff around here with chainlink.
Lol..
Why another fundraising for money when you already have a solution for banks. Its just scamming noobs out of their hard earned btc
sr. member
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September 21, 2017, 08:37:34 PM
Ripple is old and already after huge gains. Better invest in new products like chainlink

ya, but looks like it's completed:
The LINK Token Sale Has Been Completed
but chainlink can x5 or x10 in this year. about ripple I think it can't happen. just hope it can go back price at 0.5$
jr. member
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September 21, 2017, 08:32:53 PM
I gave up on ripple when I heard that the banks dont need to buy ripple from exchanges. They have some deal in which they get it cheaply from some other source. Thats why the price will not go up. Its like there are two ripples, one for suckas who buy it high from exchange and then the big companies who get it cheap under the table.

Haha so many dum dums on here (this isn't towards you Zakhal, I will address your concerns below). All this FUD is clearly being thrown around by idiots. Most seem illiterate and lack the ability to understand even basic facts.

Zakhal, why would Ripple (or anyone else) sell a bunch of coins BELOW market value? That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why would they purposely want to keep the price low and then purposely sell their share of XRP for even lower???

That is the opposite of making money and makes sense in no rational situation. Ripple sits on a large amount of XRP and I promise you they want the price to be HIGH and they aren't selling them LOW.

Where did you hear this at?? A valid and reputable source or another internet parrot repeating garbage they heard? Use basic common sense when you hear stuff like this, you got played by FUD.

XRP is the most promising coin on the market. It has a real world use case and isn't a solution desperately searching for a problem. It is also backed by a real and reputable company that is comprised of some industry heavy weights.

History will look back and realize that it was Ripple the company that introduced the world to blockchain. BTC, while seemingly large, is hardly a pimple on the ass of finances in this world. Yes it could continue to grow but look how weak it is in the face of government regulation. Ripple will bring it to the fore front. Time will tell.
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September 21, 2017, 04:28:40 PM
Ripple is old and already after huge gains. Better invest in new products like chainlink
newbie
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September 21, 2017, 04:22:30 PM
DO you guys hear the news about R3 sue the Ripple because of the guaranted qty cheap XRP... Do anybody know how have they to make this deal? I mean  way of acquiring XRP assets...

I think they made a bad deal and now r3 want cheap xrp to sell, would be great if they used those xrp but i'm not sure that's their intent :-/
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September 21, 2017, 03:41:34 PM
I gave up on ripple when I heard that the banks dont need to buy ripple from exchanges. They have some deal in which they get it cheaply from some other source. Thats why the price will not go up. Its like there are two ripples, one for suckas who buy it high from exchange and then the big companies who get it cheap under the table.

Of course there might be other smaller companies that want to i.e integrate with banks and they need to buy ripple from exchanges. But I dont know, if the deal is real then ripple is ripping us of.


DO you guys hear the news about R3 sue the Ripple because of the guaranted qty cheap XRP... Do anybody know how have they to make this deal? I mean  way of acquiring XRP assets...

Well a lot of the XRP circulating are in fact held by the ripple company. So ye it's easy for ripple to promise a bag of ripples for a price they want.
full member
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September 21, 2017, 03:33:35 PM
I gave up on ripple when I heard that the banks dont need to buy ripple from exchanges. They have some deal in which they get it cheaply from some other source. Thats why the price will not go up. Its like there are two ripples, one for suckas who buy it high from exchange and then the big companies who get it cheap under the table.

Of course there might be other smaller companies that want to i.e integrate with banks and they need to buy ripple from exchanges. But I dont know, if the deal is real then ripple is ripping us of.


DO you guys hear the news about R3 sue the Ripple because of the guaranted qty cheap XRP... Do anybody know how have they to make this deal? I mean  way of acquiring XRP assets...
full member
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I love crypto
September 21, 2017, 03:05:27 PM
I gave up on ripple when I heard that the banks dont need to buy ripple from exchanges. They have some deal in which they get it cheaply from some other source. Thats why the price will not go up. Its like there are two ripples, one for suckas who buy it high from exchange and then the big companies who get it cheap under the table.

Of course there might be other smaller companies that want to i.e integrate with banks and they need to buy ripple from exchanges. But I dont know, if the deal is real then ripple is ripping us of.
newbie
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September 21, 2017, 02:07:25 PM
Just wanted to give an other perspective, not fud or anything :-/ why call me autistic ?
sr. member
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September 21, 2017, 02:04:49 PM
Truth is volume right now is very very low (~$30m) and similar to some obscur coins (qtum).

Different perspective:

http://stockemperor.com/currencies/ripple-xrp-bad-investment/

and I'm not against Ripple.

Just leave this here to the professionals!

Autistic behavior isn't tolerated here
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