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newbie
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So much for the "exclusive" XVG deal with Pornhub, they go now with "Vice Industry Token" into bed (for those of you, that understand German: https://coincierge.de/2018/pornhub-liebesaffaere-vergeben-und-vergessen/)., Isn't this a breach of contract? First PH asks for 75 Mio Verge, now they jump on another crypto's horseback. Shameless dicks...
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1024
Anybody here actually tried to confirm if PH is accepting XVG or any cryptocurrency for that matter for payment processing ?

I just for the hell of it went to check what's available when attempting to sign up for their membership services, and I see no crypto option whatsoever lol

As much as I hate XVG, PH does accept Verge. You have to dig down deep into their disgusting site.

hero member
Activity: 1638
Merit: 507
The snake which cannot cast its skin has to die
Anybody here actually tried to confirm if PH is accepting XVG or any cryptocurrency for that matter for payment processing ?

I just for the hell of it went to check what's available when attempting to sign up for their membership services, and I see no crypto option whatsoever lol
hero member
Activity: 1148
Merit: 512
The First Verge Meetup in Amsterdam June 9th, 2018 https://twitter.com/vergecurrency/status/1000395629422694401
The meetup will take place on a boat, which we will cruise on through the Amsterdam canals.

It will be very interesting if this meetup in Amsterdam hits some good deals with some partners .
I 'm waiting for this meetup and Hope it will be useful for all XVG big bagholders
member
Activity: 186
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Hi! very good project! Crypto-currency can be mined using 5 different algorithms, which is a convenient solution to attract the maximum number of users. The principle of a multi-faceted approach allows you to meet the requirements of almost every user. Tell me the release schedule who knows!
full member
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jr. member
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Where do we follow the news from?
Has the announcement been done already?
member
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The First Verge Meetup in Amsterdam June 9th, 2018 https://twitter.com/vergecurrency/status/1000395629422694401
The meetup will take place on a boat, which we will cruise on through the Amsterdam canals.
hero member
Activity: 1176
Merit: 501
nows a great time to buy.

 buy whatever your into....

   more btc, xvg, or any coin.

   I am Smiley

jr. member
Activity: 201
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I am silently reading all your discussions but i am very upset because almost 80% of my investment in XVG and these days are very hard for me. Already lost around 65% of my investment. I am waiting to reach it to 0.1$ price.



As with all altcoins right now, you have to wait until Bitcoin gets up again, cause Altcoins most time go up and down with Bitcoin. These days are hard for any crypto...
member
Activity: 420
Merit: 13
I am waiting to reach it to 0.1$ price.

You have to wait a bit more and hopefully you are one of these people with endless patience ....  Lips sealed
newbie
Activity: 59
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I didnt say, price will double because of the halving. It will not, as i already mentioned some pages before. Meanwhile there is a new mining balance and you earn about the same amount of verge like before the halving, as hashrate has spreaded new.

I just tried to explain you, that this has nothing to do with the higher max supply of Verge...

I am trying this for some weeks now, but it seems you are resistent to understand it...

My post was related to the halving and the price of verge, and why you believe the max. supply has nothing to do with the price, so it be. I know that the price and the formula for it has to do with max. supply.
You are free to believe that a 15 billion max. supply coin get have a USD 100 price, or that a 1B coin get to 1.000 USD, but it just won't happen exactly due the max. supply.

Whatever, most of us live in a democratic country and can believe in whatever they won't ....

You still dont get it. Of course has the max supply something to do with the price of a coin. Please read my post above and there the point about max supply of Bitcoin:

Quote from: MiCoSa
You could take bitcoins today, increase max supply from 21,000,000 to 21,000,000,000. What would happen? Each Bitcoin-holder would have 1000 times more bitcoins in his wallet and the price would be divided by 1000 and the amount of mined Bitcoins per block would increase to 12,500. Thats it. Calculated in any fiat, nothing would happen.

But the max supply has nothing do with the things happening to the price of a coin before, while or after a halving! That is the only thing i try to explain to you.

Thats why this:

Quote from: boxalex
You have no idea how that halving works out for mining. I made a detailed post some 10 or 20 pages earlier, seems you missed it. If you think that halving the mining reward of a 16B max supply is doubling its price you are totally ultra mega wrong. The impact is about 0.1% on price, at most with such max. supply and daily volume.

is nonsense!

As i showed you above the impact for Bitcoin would be about the same...

So again, what i try to tell you is, that your calculation, that the halving does not matter the price at all is correct. The only thing, that is not correct is, that you each time mention, that this is because of the high max supply of Verge. The impact for any other coin, with lower max supply would be about the same, namely about zero...

I am silently reading all your discussions but i am very upset because almost 80% of my investment in XVG and these days are very hard for me. Already lost around 65% of my investment. I am waiting to reach it to 0.1$ price.

jr. member
Activity: 201
Merit: 1
I didnt say, price will double because of the halving. It will not, as i already mentioned some pages before. Meanwhile there is a new mining balance and you earn about the same amount of verge like before the halving, as hashrate has spreaded new.

I just tried to explain you, that this has nothing to do with the higher max supply of Verge...

I am trying this for some weeks now, but it seems you are resistent to understand it...

My post was related to the halving and the price of verge, and why you believe the max. supply has nothing to do with the price, so it be. I know that the price and the formula for it has to do with max. supply.
You are free to believe that a 15 billion max. supply coin get have a USD 100 price, or that a 1B coin get to 1.000 USD, but it just won't happen exactly due the max. supply.

Whatever, most of us live in a democratic country and can believe in whatever they won't ....

You still dont get it. Of course has the max supply something to do with the price of a coin. Please read my post above and there the point about max supply of Bitcoin:

Quote from: MiCoSa
You could take bitcoins today, increase max supply from 21,000,000 to 21,000,000,000. What would happen? Each Bitcoin-holder would have 1000 times more bitcoins in his wallet and the price would be divided by 1000 and the amount of mined Bitcoins per block would increase to 12,500. Thats it. Calculated in any fiat, nothing would happen.

But the max supply has nothing do with the things happening to the price of a coin before, while or after a halving! That is the only thing i try to explain to you.

Thats why this:

Quote from: boxalex
You have no idea how that halving works out for mining. I made a detailed post some 10 or 20 pages earlier, seems you missed it. If you think that halving the mining reward of a 16B max supply is doubling its price you are totally ultra mega wrong. The impact is about 0.1% on price, at most with such max. supply and daily volume.

is nonsense!

As i showed you above the impact for Bitcoin would be about the same...

So again, what i try to tell you is, that your calculation, that the halving does not matter the price at all is correct. The only thing, that is not correct is, that you each time mention, that this is because of the high max supply of Verge. The impact for any other coin, with lower max supply would be about the same, namely about zero...
member
Activity: 420
Merit: 13
I didnt say, price will double because of the halving. It will not, as i already mentioned some pages before. Meanwhile there is a new mining balance and you earn about the same amount of verge like before the halving, as hashrate has spreaded new.

I just tried to explain you, that this has nothing to do with the higher max supply of Verge...

I am trying this for some weeks now, but it seems you are resistent to understand it...

My post was related to the halving and the price of verge, and why you believe the max. supply has nothing to do with the price, so it be. I know that the price and the formula for it has to do with max. supply.
You are free to believe that a 15 billion max. supply coin get have a USD 100 price, or that a 1B coin get to 1.000 USD, but it just won't happen exactly due the max. supply.

Whatever, most of us live in a democratic country and can believe in whatever they won't ....
full member
Activity: 486
Merit: 104
XVG is now not among the coins which have a future with zero but it already passed away from that situation and now its roots are much stronger than many of the coins. It just need a mind from the investors. If they will read about the upcoming use of this coin in the market then they will invest in this coin.

In 2018, if you are the user of XVG then you will know that, the use of XVG got a bigger boost when they partnered with mindgeek which is also tending the demand of the coin to increase. This is not the only company and partnership but the team is also extremely busy in making more and more partners. Tokenpay is also becoming a source to boom up the price of XVG when they will start its debit cards. The plus point is that in this year not only the demand of the coin is increased but also the supply is halved for the miners in the previous month. So the flow from the mining to the market is halved which will become a reason for the price to double up when the market will be okay.

You have no idea how that halving works out for mining. I made a detailed post some 10 or 20 pages earlier, seems you missed it. If you think that halving the mining reward of a 16B max supply is doubling its price you are totally ultra mega wrong. The impact is about 0.1% on price, at most with such max. supply and daily volume.

We are back to the roots dude.....

The max supply has nothing to do with that. That was wrong 10 sides before, it is the same 10 sides later...

Bitcoin: Supply: ~17,100,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 6 * 24 * 12.5 = 1,800

Percent of supply right now: 1,800 / 17,100,000 * 100 = 0,0105%


Verge: Supply: ~15,000,000,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 120 * 24 * 730 = 2,102,400

Percent of supply right now: 2,102,400 / 15,000,000,000 * 100 = 0.0140%


So Bitcoin as well as Verge has a daily increase of coins, of less then 0.02%.

This has nothing to do with the higher max supply. The number of bitcoins mined each day is much less, because of the lower max supply...

Than just wait like the other guy that it doubles in price due halving  Grin

And Bitcoin is just that, Bitcoin. Everybody that compares whatever Altcoin with Bitcoin is should get back to reality. Not even talking about comparing XVG with BTC, lol. Total joke.

I didnt say, price will double because of the halving. It will not, as i already mentioned some pages before. Meanwhile there is a new mining balance and you earn about the same amount of verge like before the halving, as hashrate has spreaded new.

I just tried to explain you, that this has nothing to do with the higher max supply of Verge...

I am trying this for some weeks now, but it seems you are resistent to understand it...

And i did not compare bitcoin and verge in a relevant way. You can take bitcoin above and replace it with any other crypto...

You could take bitcoins today, increase max supply from 21,000,000 to 21,000,000,000. What would happen? Each Bitcoin-holder would have 1000 times more bitcoins in his wallet and the price would be devided by 1000 and the amount of mined Bitcoins per block would increase to 12,500. Thats it. Calculated in any fiat, nothing would happen.

By the way, Bitcoin is a fantastic thing, no question. But from technical point, Bitcoin is one of the worst Cryptocurrencies out there. There are tons of better Cryptos, XVG included, but no question, there are much better Cryptos then verge, because of better DEV teams. But in long term i am convinced that all Cryptocurrencies, that keep PoW wont have a chance to survive. As good as the idea behind bitcoin is, if the needed power consumption for mining will increase at the same rate like it does the last years bitcoin will need the same amount of power as the whole world need without bitcoin in about 5 years... Not to mention, that no PoW-currency is really decentralized as there is one country that produces about 95% of the miners, China. These are the reasons, why i think, that Ethereum will be number one at latest by the end of 2019, because they begin to switch from PoW to PoS slowly with the new Casper Protocol. In mid term, each cryptocurrency that misses this neccesary step, will die in my opinion, Bitcoin included, if they miss that. The only reason why Bitcoin is still there where it is right now, is the first mover advantage, but this advantage will decrease day by day.

You might be right. But the "devil is in the details". Its seems to me that there are many more ways to implement PoS than PoW.  Some might work, but some might have flaws and unforeseen shortcomings.
jr. member
Activity: 201
Merit: 1
XVG is now not among the coins which have a future with zero but it already passed away from that situation and now its roots are much stronger than many of the coins. It just need a mind from the investors. If they will read about the upcoming use of this coin in the market then they will invest in this coin.

In 2018, if you are the user of XVG then you will know that, the use of XVG got a bigger boost when they partnered with mindgeek which is also tending the demand of the coin to increase. This is not the only company and partnership but the team is also extremely busy in making more and more partners. Tokenpay is also becoming a source to boom up the price of XVG when they will start its debit cards. The plus point is that in this year not only the demand of the coin is increased but also the supply is halved for the miners in the previous month. So the flow from the mining to the market is halved which will become a reason for the price to double up when the market will be okay.

You have no idea how that halving works out for mining. I made a detailed post some 10 or 20 pages earlier, seems you missed it. If you think that halving the mining reward of a 16B max supply is doubling its price you are totally ultra mega wrong. The impact is about 0.1% on price, at most with such max. supply and daily volume.

We are back to the roots dude.....

The max supply has nothing to do with that. That was wrong 10 sides before, it is the same 10 sides later...

Bitcoin: Supply: ~17,100,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 6 * 24 * 12.5 = 1,800

Percent of supply right now: 1,800 / 17,100,000 * 100 = 0,0105%


Verge: Supply: ~15,000,000,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 120 * 24 * 730 = 2,102,400

Percent of supply right now: 2,102,400 / 15,000,000,000 * 100 = 0.0140%


So Bitcoin as well as Verge has a daily increase of coins, of less then 0.02%.

This has nothing to do with the higher max supply. The number of bitcoins mined each day is much less, because of the lower max supply...

Than just wait like the other guy that it doubles in price due halving  Grin

And Bitcoin is just that, Bitcoin. Everybody that compares whatever Altcoin with Bitcoin is should get back to reality. Not even talking about comparing XVG with BTC, lol. Total joke.

I didnt say, price will double because of the halving. It will not, as i already mentioned some pages before. Meanwhile there is a new mining balance and you earn about the same amount of verge like before the halving, as hashrate has spreaded new.

I just tried to explain you, that this has nothing to do with the higher max supply of Verge...

I am trying this for some weeks now, but it seems you are resistent to understand it...

And i did not compare bitcoin and verge in a relevant way. You can take bitcoin above and replace it with any other crypto...

You could take bitcoins today, increase max supply from 21,000,000 to 21,000,000,000. What would happen? Each Bitcoin-holder would have 1000 times more bitcoins in his wallet and the price would be divided by 1000 and the amount of mined Bitcoins per block would increase to 12,500. Thats it. Calculated in any fiat, nothing would happen.

By the way, Bitcoin is a fantastic thing, no question. But from technical point, Bitcoin is one of the worst Cryptocurrencies out there. There are tons of better Cryptos, XVG included, but no question, there are much better Cryptos then verge, because of better DEV teams. But in long term i am convinced that all Cryptocurrencies, that keep PoW wont have a chance to survive. As good as the idea behind bitcoin is, if the needed power consumption for mining will increase at the same rate like it does the last years bitcoin will need the same amount of power as the whole world need without bitcoin in about 5 years... Not to mention, that no PoW-currency is really decentralized as there is one country that produces about 95% of the miners, China. These are the reasons, why i think, that Ethereum will be number one at latest by the end of 2019, because they begin to switch from PoW to PoS slowly with the new Casper Protocol. In mid term, each cryptocurrency that misses this neccesary step, will die in my opinion, Bitcoin included, if they miss that. The only reason why Bitcoin is still there where it is right now, is the first mover advantage, but this advantage will decrease day by day.
member
Activity: 420
Merit: 13
XVG is now not among the coins which have a future with zero but it already passed away from that situation and now its roots are much stronger than many of the coins. It just need a mind from the investors. If they will read about the upcoming use of this coin in the market then they will invest in this coin.

In 2018, if you are the user of XVG then you will know that, the use of XVG got a bigger boost when they partnered with mindgeek which is also tending the demand of the coin to increase. This is not the only company and partnership but the team is also extremely busy in making more and more partners. Tokenpay is also becoming a source to boom up the price of XVG when they will start its debit cards. The plus point is that in this year not only the demand of the coin is increased but also the supply is halved for the miners in the previous month. So the flow from the mining to the market is halved which will become a reason for the price to double up when the market will be okay.

You have no idea how that halving works out for mining. I made a detailed post some 10 or 20 pages earlier, seems you missed it. If you think that halving the mining reward of a 16B max supply is doubling its price you are totally ultra mega wrong. The impact is about 0.1% on price, at most with such max. supply and daily volume.

We are back to the roots dude.....

The max supply has nothing to do with that. That was wrong 10 sides before, it is the same 10 sides later...

Bitcoin: Supply: ~17,100,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 6 * 24 * 12.5 = 1,800

Percent of supply right now: 1,800 / 17,100,000 * 100 = 0,0105%


Verge: Supply: ~15,000,000,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 120 * 24 * 730 = 2,102,400

Percent of supply right now: 2,102,400 / 15,000,000,000 * 100 = 0.0140%


So Bitcoin as well as Verge has a daily increase of coins, of less then 0.02%.

This has nothing to do with the higher max supply. The number of bitcoins mined each day is much less, because of the lower max supply...

Than just wait like the other guy that it doubles in price due halving  Grin

And Bitcoin is just that, Bitcoin. Everybody that compares whatever Altcoin with Bitcoin is should get back to reality. Not even talking about comparing XVG with BTC, lol. Total joke.
jr. member
Activity: 201
Merit: 1
XVG is now not among the coins which have a future with zero but it already passed away from that situation and now its roots are much stronger than many of the coins. It just need a mind from the investors. If they will read about the upcoming use of this coin in the market then they will invest in this coin.

In 2018, if you are the user of XVG then you will know that, the use of XVG got a bigger boost when they partnered with mindgeek which is also tending the demand of the coin to increase. This is not the only company and partnership but the team is also extremely busy in making more and more partners. Tokenpay is also becoming a source to boom up the price of XVG when they will start its debit cards. The plus point is that in this year not only the demand of the coin is increased but also the supply is halved for the miners in the previous month. So the flow from the mining to the market is halved which will become a reason for the price to double up when the market will be okay.

You have no idea how that halving works out for mining. I made a detailed post some 10 or 20 pages earlier, seems you missed it. If you think that halving the mining reward of a 16B max supply is doubling its price you are totally ultra mega wrong. The impact is about 0.1% on price, at most with such max. supply and daily volume.

We are back to the roots dude.....

The max supply has nothing to do with that. That was wrong 10 sides before, it is the same 10 sides later...

Bitcoin: Supply: ~17,100,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 6 * 24 * 12.5 = 1,800

Percent of supply right now: 1,800 / 17,100,000 * 100 = 0,0105%


Verge: Supply: ~15,000,000,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 120 * 24 * 730 = 2,102,400

Percent of supply right now: 2,102,400 / 15,000,000,000 * 100 = 0.0140%


So Bitcoin as well as Verge has a daily increase of coins, of less then 0.02%.

This has nothing to do with the higher max supply. The number of bitcoins mined each day is much less, because of the lower max supply...
newbie
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Merit: 0
Anybody heard when Verge wallet on Bittrex will be enabled again?
member
Activity: 420
Merit: 13
XVG is now not among the coins which have a future with zero but it already passed away from that situation and now its roots are much stronger than many of the coins. It just need a mind from the investors. If they will read about the upcoming use of this coin in the market then they will invest in this coin.

In 2018, if you are the user of XVG then you will know that, the use of XVG got a bigger boost when they partnered with mindgeek which is also tending the demand of the coin to increase. This is not the only company and partnership but the team is also extremely busy in making more and more partners. Tokenpay is also becoming a source to boom up the price of XVG when they will start its debit cards. The plus point is that in this year not only the demand of the coin is increased but also the supply is halved for the miners in the previous month. So the flow from the mining to the market is halved which will become a reason for the price to double up when the market will be okay.

You have no idea how that halving works out for mining. I made a detailed post some 10 or 20 pages earlier, seems you missed it. If you think that halving the mining reward of a 16B max supply is doubling its price you are totally ultra mega wrong. The impact is about 0.1% on price, at most with such max. supply and daily volume.

We are back to the roots dude.....
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