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legendary
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January 27, 2014, 12:37:09 PM
#32
Buy bitcoins tomorrow (700$) , sell them after 12th of february (1238$ they say  Smiley  ). Profit. Then think again what to do with your 20k$.
This is actually a real issue.  I invested in BTC a long time ago.  When it gets higher I sell a few.  Now I got all these stupid USD so what do I do with them?  Put them in the stock market?  Government paper?  Corporate paper?  Money market?

So I put them back in BTC (on the dips)!
member
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January 27, 2014, 11:49:58 AM
#31
Buy bitcoins tomorrow (700$) , sell them after 12th of february (1238$ they say  Smiley  ). Profit. Then think again what to do with your 20k$.
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January 27, 2014, 11:44:21 AM
#30
Bitcoin may increase in value if demand exceeds supply and more shops start taking BTC as a method of payment  Smiley

Actually I think the opposite will happen.  As more shops take BTC directly the price will drop.  The problem right now is hoarding.  When the price increases stop coming there will be some blood letting as the hoarders wake up 2 years later and realized they would have made more money in US Treasuries and then dump.

There is more than enough BTC to supply everyone's needs.  However the US Government is holding the silk road wallet and will eventually dump the silk road coins.  Eventually PirateBryan may want to spend his BTC as well.  That would free up substantial liquidity.

Still BTC will have it's ups and downs.  I would not be shocked to see $10k/BTC by the end of 2014.
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January 26, 2014, 07:11:37 PM
#29
if you are gonna try to trade btc, coinbase wont be of much use, check out btc-e, they have numerous altcoins on there
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January 26, 2014, 03:20:06 AM
#28
Hello, I have nearly $12,000 dollars and would like some advice on how to invest with bitcoin.  Should I buy mining contracts from cloudhashing, cex.io, black arrow mining contracts
should I just short trade on coinbase, should i mine myself

Please help me out with some advice.  Thanks

Don't listen to others, specially for those saying mining is at loss.
They probably run small mining gear, and don't want any competition causing difficulties going up.
Their arguments are half true. It is true that difficulty level is at prohibitively high that miners are in danger of losing money. But how else are you going to get bitcoin? Invest on them and hold on to it for few years? Good advice, but only half truth. If everyone hold on to bitcoin, and do not use them, the function of bitcoin will suffer. This is bad for everyone. Most of bitcoin must be circulated like cash.
  • Don't even listen to me, read everything on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin including all links in it.
  • Follow available standard investment guidelines like from investopedia.com
  • Spread your investment. Buy few bitcoins, do some cloudhashing, and mine yourself using some good gear from CoinTerra or KnC.
I personally use cex.io. But their hashing price is about three time more expensive than butterflylab, and a lot more than mining yourself. But I think it's good choice to parallel with other mining options. I currently have 5GHS, and will put two bitcoins in them soon. I'm waiting for coinbase to clear my purchase.
I am also trying to get mining machine from CoinTerra. KnC looks really good, but I live in USA, therefore, I will choose CoinTerra over KnC for various reasons.
 
But again, don't listen to anyone including me. It's your money.

newbie
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January 24, 2014, 07:33:18 AM
#27
no BTC mining,it's equal to working for machine seller and so diffcult to get reward
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January 24, 2014, 02:58:59 AM
#26
Hello, I have nearly $12,000 dollars and would like some advice on how to invest with bitcoin.  Should I buy mining contracts from cloudhashing, cex.io, black arrow mining contracts
should I just short trade on coinbase, should i mine myself

Please help me out with some advice.  Thanks

You could mind alt coins and trade them in for BTC, start off with doing your research as far as the hash rate for GPU's in order to mine scrypt coins, SHA256 coins cannot be mined without specific hardware.
legendary
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January 23, 2014, 03:15:55 PM
#25
No mining at all - long term you are better in BTC.

No alt/shit/crap/joke/scam coins - longer term almost all of them will fail.

Just invest in BTC on the dips.

My 0.02 BTC.

Gee, this is such a mind numbing 0.02 BTC  Smiley
Thanks.
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January 23, 2014, 03:00:41 PM
#24
No mining at all - long term you are better in BTC.

No alt/shit/crap/joke/scam coins - longer term almost all of them will fail.

Just invest in BTC on the dips.

My 0.02 BTC.

Gee, this is such a mind numbing 0.02 BTC  Smiley
newbie
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January 22, 2014, 10:48:04 AM
#23
In terms of return/hour you are much better buying and holding atm imo. Mining research is time consuming and returns aren't what they used to be.

As for buying you can maximize your investment buy picking the cheapest exchange and buying when that exchange is cheapest relative to the other exchanges. I would recommend spreading your investment across the 3 or 4 main cryptocurrencies. These track BTC fairly closely but give you more diversification.

I'd go with 70% BTC, 15%LTC, 15%PPC. You can purchase all of these at BTC-e which is also cheaper on average than the other main exchanges.

Before you buy look at the prices on http://bitcoinity.org/markets and check the other exchanges. If BTC-e is the cheapest then it's a fine time to buy. If not you're better off waiting a day or 2.
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January 22, 2014, 09:09:10 AM
#22
Just throwing it out there,

You could give me the 12k to build rigs and invest in BTC. I make you FIAT and take a % for doing it.

Just an idea, but no different than giving ur money to a bank or hedge fund.
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January 22, 2014, 09:06:49 AM
#21
My advice is to invest in 2-3 mining machine and the remaining money in some bitcoins.
With the mining machine you will make some bitcoin and with the other bitocin you will invest in some trading process.

Good Luck !
member
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January 21, 2014, 01:37:02 PM
#20
No mining at all - long term you are better in BTC.

No alt/shit/crap/joke/scam coins - longer term almost all of them will fail.

Just invest in BTC on the dips.

My 0.02 BTC.

almost
im pretty sure Bitcoin will become redundant in some years and a lot of them will take bitcoin place(some years in future not now)
but i see some coins that are now at cents and will worth some $ in near future...
legendary
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January 21, 2014, 09:54:42 AM
#19
No mining at all - long term you are better in BTC.

No alt/shit/crap/joke/scam coins - longer term almost all of them will fail.

Just invest in BTC on the dips.

My 0.02 BTC.
full member
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January 21, 2014, 08:41:33 AM
#18
Depends if you want to get your hands dirty mining.

If you want to make bank in the future with little work. Spend all your money on buying BTC.

If you want to get dirty, spend your money on some scrypt rigs, and mine scrypt coins. You get some nice hash with that amount of FIAT.
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January 21, 2014, 08:37:12 AM
#17
I would buy 5K in bitcoins
2K in litecoins
and buy more 5K in bitcoins then exchange this 5K to--> EAC, DOGE, QRK, NXT, Zetacoin and others who can be really good
but this is me not you Wink
newbie
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January 21, 2014, 06:39:23 AM
#16
Try to make a portfolio of different altcoins. Some of them are pretty.
newbie
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January 21, 2014, 05:16:38 AM
#15
Buy low, sell high, keep some aside.
rinse, repeat, profit.

It seem to be easy  Grin
full member
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January 21, 2014, 05:06:47 AM
#14
I would say invest half in bitcoins and use the other half to build rigs for Scrypt mining (which is still profitable).  This way, you don't put your eggs in one basket. 

That's still the same basket.
newbie
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January 21, 2014, 02:29:42 AM
#13
If the crypto currency community is new to you then the best way to invest your $12,000 is to buy the coin outright. Make the purchase, store is securely, and watch the market as you would a stock.

Mining shares is still a possibility because of the fact that your $12,000 may go a little longer up front; however it goes back to your base knowledge of the community and you are more likely to get suckered going that route (plus there is more management on your part here)

Having your own miners is another option, but to manage that all on your own could become overwhelming, and not everyone is in the business of having hot/loud computers running in their homes (and this is probably the heaviest to manage).

All in all this is just like any other investment in life. The simple fact that you are looking at throwing $12,000 at something shows that you have made wise financial decisions in the past; so keep an open mind and do what feels right.
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