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Quote from: khiholangkang on June 16, 2024, 08:44:07 AM

And there are also casinos that do not require KYC to their customers either withdrawing funds or depositing funds, but for the average standard now the casino imposes KYC for its customers who want to be in their gambling, this is still quite normal in my opinion today even though we have a fear of leakage of our personal data.

Just like you said, it's better for a gambler to first read and understand the rules of the casino before using it. If the gambler is trying to avoid KYC, then they should avoid casinos that request KYC and use casinos that don't require them to do KYC before they can gamble and withdraw. There are some web3 casinos now where you just have to create your account and connect your wallet to start gambling, and after you have won, you can easily withdraw to your crypto wallet as well.

Of course we have to read what the rules are in each casino where we play because it is the initial capital of caution in undergoing a gambling journey at a casino so that in the end we feel cheated or we know the risks that might occur.

And yes web3 casino is a concern today because it does not require KYC to access it is much easier because it only connects our web3 wallet, but be careful using the wallet because we don't know what will happen, keep using a special wallet for gambling instead of using the main wallet.

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Quote from: khiholangkang on June 16, 2024, 08:44:07 AM

And there are also casinos that do not require KYC to their customers either withdrawing funds or depositing funds, but for the average standard now the casino imposes KYC for its customers who want to be in their gambling, this is still quite normal in my opinion today even though we have a fear of leakage of our personal data.

Just like you said, it's better for a gambler to first read and understand the rules of the casino before using it. If the gambler is trying to avoid KYC, then they should avoid casinos that request KYC and use casinos that don't require them to do KYC before they can gamble and withdraw. There are some web3 casinos now where you just have to create your account and connect your wallet to start gambling, and after you have won, you can easily withdraw to your crypto wallet as well.

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Quote from: Mrbluntzy on June 15, 2024, 07:46:11 AM

guys, why is it that giving off our private information for the sake of passing KYC on casino platform became a normal things?
Some gamblers are explorers in the aspect of visiting and using every new casino they see. They don't bother about the risk of giving out their KYC information to every new casino they come across.

Usually new casinos offer attractive bonuses and that is normal because they want to attract lots of players so that the casino becomes popular, especially if they are high rollers because sometimes casinos will give different treatment but KYC is difficult to refuse, and for people If you think personal data is something that is not important to keep confidential then of course the bonus is more important so he will prefer to move from casino to casino.

Quote from: Mrbluntzy on June 15, 2024, 07:46:11 AM

May I remind us that we should only use reputable casino and be mindful of the casino that we give out our KYC details. If a casino gets hacked, our details can as well be stolen by those hackers.
There was a reputable casino on this forum that got hacked some years ago if you can remember. If reputable casino can be hacked, it means you guys need to be careful with non reputable casinos.

When we have done KYC anywhere, including trusted casinos, the chances of our data being leaked are open, but there will be a greater chance of leaking if we do it in many places, so it's better to never do KYC, but it's clear that it's difficult at the moment, it's hard to find a casino with KYC free, the more money you withdraw, the more opportunities you have to do KYC, so not moving around to many casinos is better.

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Quote from: Mrbluntzy on June 15, 2024, 07:46:11 AM

guys, why is it that giving off our private information for the sake of passing KYC on casino platform became a normal things?

We have an international institution that is called AMLAC and they monitor the movement of money from hackers there's a possibility that gambling platform is their target to wash their dirty money

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Some gamblers are explorers in the aspect of visiting and using every new casino they see. They don't bother about the risk of giving out their KYC information to every new casino they come across.

As long as they did their research and were comfortable with their decision even though there is a risk attached to it, every gambler's decision is part of abiding by the rules of the casinos they choose to play.

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Let us all not forget about the risk that is attached to any KYC information that enters the wrong hand of scammers or fraudsters. If you must give out your KYC information, let it be to a reputable casino. I realized that sometimes the casino will force some of you to pass KYC after you have won a big amount of money. They will force you to do your KYC before you can withdraw.

All gamblers should be fully aware of this so they must have an investigative mind and do research and read a lot of reviews about the casino they choose to play, which is why old casinos have an edge over new casinos because they have the trust of the gambling community, it's not easy for a casino to establish their reputation but they have to work for it if they want to stay long on this industry.

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Sincerely speaking no casino forced you to use their services and before you going to sign up it is as good as reading their ToS before joining them. If you read and found out that you aren't suitable with releasing your information to them it will be good not to join them because if you do before withdrawing your funds you must pass the kyc before having accessing to your winning amount, that's why is always advisable to read terms of service before jumping into their platform to make account.

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I agree. Let us stick with 2 or 3 reputable casinos and stay there. I don't understand why they jump from one online gambling site, especially the new ones to another but I would not recommend this at all especially if they are looking for KYC at the early phase of your playing time. That's not normal unless you will be gambling for large amounts.

But let's seek loyalty and reputation first. Here in the forum we already have lots of online gambling sites and sports bookies that offer great services and with a root on their reputation. There may be some slight problems but it won't go as far as scamming other gamblers.
I wish they are just doing that registering to new ones because they have not find their best choice yet and not because of a different purpose.

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Quote from: khiholangkang on June 16, 2024, 08:44:07 AM

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 16, 2024, 08:07:31 AM

Giving off KYC details is not a normal thing by gamblers just like you think. If gamblers have the choice not to give out their private details to casino then they will not do it willingly. Gamblers submit their details because the casino has mandated them to do so before they can he able to withdraw.

Every casino has different rules, some casino will not allow you to deposit when you have not done your KYC verification, while some will all you to deposit but you can not withdraw until you do your KYC verification. If you want to avoid KYC casinos then you have to use web3 casinos that is not being regulated and don't ask for KYC verification from their customers.

Yes, every casino has different rules, therefore it is important for us as gamblers to read the ToS and understand exactly what is in it so that we do not respond incorrectly when we have entered to anticipate anything that is indeed something that we do not like from a casino.

And there are also casinos that do not require KYC to their customers either withdrawing funds or depositing funds, but for the average standard now the casino imposes KYC for its customers who want to be in their gambling, this is still quite normal in my opinion today even though we have a fear of leakage of our personal data.

We can't blame those people or gamblers that are anxious towards KYC; it is understandable, but we also can't do anything about it. I mean, almost all gambling sites are compliant with KYC, or else they could not operate legally, so it's up to us whether we want to comply with KYC or not. But it's hard to find casino platforms these days that don't implement KYC, especially in countries that are too strict when it comes to gambling-related issues. Many people don't understand that KYC is a form of security and prevention for customers and owners.

So far, I have not encountered any problems when it comes to KYC or the concern that our information may leak or be sold to those big companies, because I know it could still be done. That is why it is very important for a user to first read the rules and regulations of a certain site so that you can see suspicious rules on the site.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 16, 2024, 08:07:31 AM

Giving off KYC details is not a normal thing by gamblers just like you think. If gamblers have the choice not to give out their private details to casino then they will not do it willingly. Gamblers submit their details because the casino has mandated them to do so before they can he able to withdraw.

Every casino has different rules, some casino will not allow you to deposit when you have not done your KYC verification, while some will all you to deposit but you can not withdraw until you do your KYC verification. If you want to avoid KYC casinos then you have to use web3 casinos that is not being regulated and don't ask for KYC verification from their customers.

Yes, every casino has different rules, therefore it is important for us as gamblers to read the ToS and understand exactly what is in it so that we do not respond incorrectly when we have entered to anticipate anything that is indeed something that we do not like from a casino.

And there are also casinos that do not require KYC to their customers either withdrawing funds or depositing funds, but for the average standard now the casino imposes KYC for its customers who want to be in their gambling, this is still quite normal in my opinion today even though we have a fear of leakage of our personal data.

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Quote from: Mrbluntzy on June 15, 2024, 07:46:11 AM

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It wasn't really casinos that normalized this, just businesses in general. Probably mainly due to the government pushing for it though since they wanted AML implemented across everything nowadays. I've long given up thinking that any business, not just casinos for that matter, would one day inevitably end up giving out whatever KYC info I gave out to them to the public so at that point, I just try to manage what I actually can handle. Anything finance related, sharing where I am or what I'm doing in social media, stuff like that that are obvious giveaways for scammers to hit are a big no no. In general I just avoid sharing anything I do lol.

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Giving off KYC details is not a normal thing by gamblers just like you think. If gamblers have the choice not to give out their private details to casino then they will not do it willingly. Gamblers submit their details because the casino has mandated them to do so before they can he able to withdraw.

Every casino has different rules, some casino will not allow you to deposit when you have not done your KYC verification, while some will all you to deposit but you can not withdraw until you do your KYC verification. If you want to avoid KYC casinos then you have to use web3 casinos that is not being regulated and don't ask for KYC verification from their customers.

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Be careful if you wants to gives your private information to any website. You must make sure you gives that information to the right website, even if that is online casino because we don't knows what they will do with our private information. You must search for more information before you gives your information to the casino and it's better you asks in this forum because many members here have much experienced about that and they can helps us to search the right online casino.

We must realizes the risks of giving our private information to casino or other websites. There is no 100% safe so we must trying to collect many information about the site and if we are sure that the casino have good reputation and can protect our private information, you can continue the process.

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Quote from: Mrbluntzy on June 15, 2024, 07:46:11 AM

guys, why is it that giving off our private information for the sake of passing KYC on casino platform became a normal things?

Some gamblers are explorers in the aspect of visiting and using every new casino they see. They don't bother about the risk of giving out their KYC information to every new casino they come across.

Let us all not forget about the risk that is attached to any KYC information that enters the wrong hand of scammers or fraudsters. If you must give out your KYC information, let it be to a reputable casino. I realized that sometimes the casino will force some of you to pass KYC after you have won a big amount of money. They will force you to do your KYC before you can withdraw.

May I remind us that we should only use reputable casino and be mindful of the casino that we give out our KYC details. If a casino gets hacked, our details can as well be stolen by those hackers.

There was a reputable casino on this forum that got hacked some years ago if you can remember. If reputable casino can be hacked, it means you guys need to be careful with non reputable casinos.

Gamblers aren't thinking of consequences when signing up for casinos, they are thinking of the free money that the casino is offering mostly. Casino comes here to the forum offering something for bitcointalk users only and gets a decent number of freebie hunters to sign up. I am against KYC to some degree but we are supposed to be able to trust that whatever casinos we decide to give the info to, can handle the info without getting hacked. Unfortunately that's not the case.

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OP you mention that KYC has become normal, when it has not been, the Casinos have their TOC, that is the verification route of the user-players to understand the required levels of verification, then we must add the abuse that some have casinos to delay payments due to the demands of absurd documentation, when a level 1 should work in most cases, that is an abuse that has become normal in "Chinos" Casinos or with a bad reputation, only play in recognized casinos.

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Quote from: Mrbluntzy on June 15, 2024, 07:46:11 AM

guys, why is it that giving off our private information for the sake of passing KYC on casino platform became a normal things?

Some gamblers are explorers in the aspect of visiting and using every new casino they see. They don't bother about the risk of giving out their KYC information to every new casino they come across.

Unfortunately, yes, KYC now seems to be a normal thing to be done if we are going to use certain platforms. This may be because the regulations regarding certain platforms are much stricter, especially in some countries. because, even though it is an online casino, they still comply with the laws of various countries, and if they violate them, they themselves will suffer losses. Therefore, these platforms prefer to secure their platforms. Moreover, it seems like people are now quite used to this condition, which is actually quite sad.

Because however, when we dive into the digital world, especially regarding cryptocurrency, one of the things to consider is privacy. But unfortunately, with this KYC fund, our privacy is also not completely safe. Maybe there are many people who say that it doesn't matter because after all, only those platforms know our identity, that's only certain parties, that's only certain parts. But the thing is, it's not that simple. Because there are concerns about data being stolen, that's why we are quite worried. But what else can you do, if you don't want that, the only way is to choose a global platform that doesn't require KYC, but still has trust and a good reputation.

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This is the reality now: gone are the days when we could gamble anonymously at popular casinos. Decentralization is gone too, and that's because the government is watching us. Casinos don't want to lose their business, so they have to get a license and are mandated to require users to comply with KYC requirements.

I understand there's a risk, but we are gamblers; we are risk-takers. It's just a matter of minimizing the risk, and that is by only trusting the most reputable casinos or at least one of the most reputable ones. Personally, I have completed KYC at a number of casinos, and I'm hoping they will keep my information confidential as they are supposed to.

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Quote from: Mrbluntzy on June 15, 2024, 07:46:11 AM

guys, why is it that giving off our private information for the sake of passing KYC on casino platform became a normal things?

It's like the norm today, and as you mentioned, they will have to ask each customer info so that they will know their location. Why? because they have to make sure that they are within the gambling age. There are instances that kids stole their parents credit card and they try to play on crypto based casino, as least asking for info might prevent this from happening.

Another is the basic, AML policy, casinos will have to fully comply with this law, otherwise they can't get any licenses. And financial watchdogs are very strict with this law because they don't want casino to be used by criminals to launder money. Casinos have fraud department that constantly looking for any suspicious activities from their customers and the moment they see something odd is going with that account, they are going to ask their customers for KYC immediately.

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This is the trend now and this is not just with crypto, you can experience this with banks, online apps and also with some companies and seriously, it’s hard to know who leaked your information and sold it to the black market. Crypto is not a safe haven anymore for you to be anonymous, not unless you will not participate on those projects who are asking for a KYC and remain unknown.

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Quote from: bangjoe on June 15, 2024, 08:07:42 AM

I really don't want the casino that I use today to experience hacking to leak their customer data because that is the most important part of every member who registers there, why do I do KYC because I really want to continue playing, withdrawing and taking money if I occasionally get a win, as simple as that.

If we look further, there are certainly casinos that have a good reputation for being hacked but we also see that it is more vulnerable to hackers whether casinos that are regulated or illegal, from here I can also conclude which is the best and which one I will take for the place where I gamble even though I have to do KYC, but at least they have guarantees for the security of their customer data.

The truth remain within the ridge of statement which you have stated, but in my own perspective we have already know that anything that requires your details is risky but one must also apply some smartness to avoid those deep danger just hangjoe is saying weather regulated or not one really need play it's casino on where he deem it safe. But most if the platform where KYC is required to check how safety it's is necessary on how they can secure their customers never to release or make one identity public to hackers, that is why a gambler must be able to know the real sight to gamble mostly when KYC is required.

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Giving out our private info is a normal thing... when I go to some store they have an app, but to register I need to provide some "sensitive" info. It's like that almost everywhere, and it's really hard to stay away from all that. So is it normal to give our private information, I am sure it is, we do it all the time. Simply said, we can't use some services if don't do it...

So I don't like it, and I am sure many others don't like it too, but the reality is if wish to use some services we need to be ready for that request to pass KYC. We can like it or not, but it exists.

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For sure many people are aware of it. However, have any of this happened on a laarge scale? Can't remember but please do enlighten me if there were big news on this. But it is an obvious risk for sure. I've been with different platforms actually which asks for KYC and I always comply as long as I know there's no incident on that platform wherein issues are present regarding my personal informations. Also, we do have a choice to move from one platform to another if we are not comfortable with this rule they set. I do view it more on its purpose which is to limit young players to gamble and also with money laundering tendencies. We cannot be asking casinos to avoid this because they have their own reasons why in the first place. I get the point that we shouldn't be giving it easily however, what's our choice if you happened to not be aware of it and you are already needing to withdraw your winnings.

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