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newbie
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I will sell three persons a 3vcard for 3.9btc each. As soon as one of this persons posted his experience in this thread on at least uploading money by sepa transfer I will send him 2.6btc back. Only if you want to trade with me by bitcoin-otc.com I will send you the card without deposit for btc1.3. Please send me PM if you are interested !

overpriced
Please use quotes to show you are quoting me ! I don't offer anything yet and If I will it will be for an appropiate price.
newbie
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I will sell three persons a 3vcard for 3.9btc each. As soon as one of this persons posted his experience in this thread on at least uploading money by sepa transfer I will send him 2.6btc back. Only if you want to trade with me by bitcoin-otc.com I will send you the card without deposit for btc1.3. Please send me PM if you are interested !

overpriced
newbie
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Sorry for not checking this forum nor my emails these days. I prefer living offline in summer time Wink
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Any reason you stopped selling these?
Lack of interest on the general public. If you want me to recontinue, take care 10 or more people ask me for it.
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Are they still working, for you and for those that bought it?
They are working great for me. Next to cash they are my lifeline in my offline life.
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Were the fees smaller for higher SEPA transfers?
The fees are in my initial post. Deposits lower then E150 have (relative) higher fees.
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Why did te issuer stop accepting bank deposits.
I don't know. But I do know there where issues in the Netherlands with fraudulent people tricking ignorant people into making deposits on the cards.
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I also didn't catch his updates on why he'd stopped selling because they no longer worked.
Please don't spread FUD ! The cards are working great. It only needs testing by non-domestics and you can't deposit by bank transfer anymore.
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Name:    ricklandman
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Yes my bad sorry, I also didn't catch his updates on why he'd stopped selling because they no longer worked.
legendary
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Name:    ricklandman
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Any reason you stopped selling these?
Are they still working, for you and for those that bought it?
Were the fees smaller for higher SEPA transfers? 2 euros for 20 euro top up was what I gathered from reading this- could be because there's a minimum fee or it could be a whopping 10% fee on every transfer.
newbie
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Thanks for your experience fa1th. Please keep us posted with your experience. Could you inform me / us if you used same personals on the 3vcard as on the bank account you made the transfer from ? If this is the case, it could explain the fact you did not need to send the email. But if you send the transfer by third party it would be simple 'good news'.

SEPA was sent via BTC exchanger website, so yea the sender account info was totally different to what I had registered the card with 3V. So, I guess they don't care about the account details (atleast not yet) as long as the deposit is within limits.

Did you tried to test max limit (both 150 EUR & 2500 EUR)?
newbie
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Thanks for your experience fa1th. Please keep us posted with your experience. Could you inform me / us if you used same personals on the 3vcard as on the bank account you made the transfer from ? If this is the case, it could explain the fact you did not need to send the email. But if you send the transfer by third party it would be simple 'good news'.

I need some 'cash' myself, so I will do some testing myself also in short notice. Keep you posted

Thanks. Let us know what happens when you deposit > 300 EUR
In Holland we have a proverb "Don't let somebody else pick the hot potatoes out of the fire". Max. deposit at a time is E150 anyway, max E2500 on card in total.

Correct me if I am wrong but I thought I sold three persons a 3vcard for cost price so they would test them in return ? As it obviously is not common practice to trust people on forehand in bitcoinland I will try a new offer:

I will sell three persons a 3vcard for 3.9btc each. As soon as one of this persons posted his experience in this thread on at least uploading money by sepa transfer I will send him 2.6btc back. Only if you want to trade with me by bitcoin-otc.com I will send you the card without deposit for btc1.3. Please send me PM if you are interested !
legendary
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Sent a deposit of 20 EUR through SEPA on Friday.
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So, I suppose there is no need to send any email (atleast not anymore) as long as you have sent your client number in the reference field of SEPA. So far, not much of a hassle really.
Thanks. Let us know what happens when you deposit > 300 EUR
newbie
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Was quite busy with some personal stuff, so didn't tested the card earlier.

Anyways, here's my experience so far with the card:
Activated the card on 3vcard.nl last week.
Sent a deposit of 20 EUR through SEPA on Friday.
Rick had instructed me to send an email after couple of days with necessary details to the bank for card loading. But I was hoping if they would automatically load the deposit to the card without any email, so I decided to wait till Monday.
On Monday I received an email from 3VCard that the card had been loaded with 18 EUR (2 EUR deposit fee).

So, I suppose there is no need to send any email (atleast not anymore) as long as you have sent your client number in the reference field of SEPA. So far, not much of a hassle really.

I'm yet to test ATM withdrawals & online card use.
newbie
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Hi,

Sorry being late, took a small vacation Wink

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5 days after you have done the deposit you have to send a message to the service desk in which you state name, country of the bank you made the deposit from and the exact amount of the deposit in euro's. Service desk is quick, friendly and accurate.
This might be an issue. If I want someone to transfer (sepa) a certain amount to my card, i cant ask him to send a message to the service desk after a few days later.
You better send them the message yourself via the email address with which you are registered. If this 'someone' is sending money to your card you probably can ask him/her how much he/she is sending. The only thing they asked me was the exact amount of the transfer in euro. But if you do ask this 'someone' details better ask him/her other bank details also in case the card provider will ask about it. We only will know if it will be a real issue or not by trying.

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after reading about most of these service, it just seems like a total PITA, especially for Americans.
I can assure you we also have our flaws with American systems on this side of the pond Wink But we can try to help each other isn't it ?

Really like to hear from you how things go. Please let me know.

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What is a "total PITA", especially for Europeans?

pain in the ass
legendary
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What is a "total PITA", especially for Europeans?
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after reading about most of these service, it just seems like a total PITA, especially for Americans.
legendary
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5 days after you have done the deposit you have to send a message to the service desk in which you state name, country of the bank you made the deposit from and the exact amount of the deposit in euro's. Service desk is quick, friendly and accurate.
This might be an issue. If I want someone to transfer (sepa) a certain amount to my card, i cant ask him to send a message to the service desk after a few days later.
newbie
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Hello,

Meanwhile I have send three cards (bitcats, financier, fa1th is on its way). I really like to hear about your experiences with the card. Please let me and other interested people know how things go ! Ask your questions whenever you need.

Some questions I got via pm
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a question about registration: is this card restricted to NL residents?
I don't know. Fact is that you can use any personal information you like to register the card as long as you provide a dutch street address. No further questions or paperwork needed.

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do you think its a good idea to use proxy with NL IP?
I used my account succesfully from ip's in netherlands, united kingdom, germany, france. My feeling is they don't track, at least don't bother.

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Will the card come with any initial preload?

No, it is initially empty

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If no, what would be my options to load it both from you & other online sources?
The best and cheapest way is to load it yourself via a sepa bank transfer. See my initial post. You can also find dutch persons to buy you vouchers in a dutch shop or via online domestich online payment system (ideal). I am willing to do so for a small fee.

Let me know how things go. Thanks, Rick
newbie
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Would like to have a test card & then post the review after the initial use.
newbie
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received my card, will register and post review/feedback later  Smiley
newbie
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Could you please erase this post?
"On request of TS removed and replaced by a new thread"
From my topic?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86382.200 ?
I never asked you to write anything like this...
No you did not. But I like to leave a small notice to clarify to other people why I removed my message. And I think the content is accurate as your above quoted message states clearly.
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And I will erase my post from here too. But it wasn't nice what you did  Grin
I have no problem with your posting, allthough it is slightly off topic Wink

Two cards are send, one left.
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@ricklandman
You made a mistake.

Could you please erase this post?
"On request of TS removed and replaced by a new thread"

From my topic?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86382.200 ?

I never asked you to write anything like this...

And I will erase my post from here too. But it wasn't nice what you did
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