[∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining USA/DE 255 blocks solved! - page 392.

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Quote from: -ck on May 02, 2015, 05:25:19 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on May 02, 2015, 05:14:09 PM

Quote from: -ck on May 02, 2015, 05:05:30 PM

Quote from: PrivacyBTC on May 02, 2015, 02:02:26 PM

Im Talking about other side THE LUCK

There is no secret to luck. You are gambling and there is no way to make luck. You are only lucky or unlucky after the fact.

Ck I am not sure if PrivacyBTC understands the concepts of solo mining.

Yes I understand but I'm trying to be blunt about the luck fact and not give people any illusions about what it means to mine solo. i.e. it's somewhere between lottery and gambling depending on how much you pour into it.

CK You are Right , YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOW THE FACT

But plz just a fair answer

joining the 10 solo pools have greater and big chance to win rather than full power in 1 pool .

plz answer with correct or false

Thanks

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Quote from: ads2003uk on May 03, 2015, 12:19:26 PM

What do you think is the approx total Rental hash available ie via Nicehash, westhash, mmr, betarigs and mintsy?

I think I'm right in saying that the top 6 on MMR are also the top 6 on betarigs & maybe nicehash.

Westhash stays around 1.1PH total, Nicehash stays about 3-4PH and MMR stays roughly 5.7PH, so thats about 10PH or roughly 3-4% of the network.

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What do you think is the approx total Rental hash available ie via Nicehash, westhash, mmr, betarigs and mintsy?

I think I'm right in saying that the top 6 on MMR are also the top 6 on betarigs & maybe nicehash.

-ck

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Quote from: philipma1957 on May 02, 2015, 05:14:09 PM

Quote from: -ck on May 02, 2015, 05:05:30 PM

Quote from: PrivacyBTC on May 02, 2015, 02:02:26 PM

Im Talking about other side THE LUCK

There is no secret to luck. You are gambling and there is no way to make luck. You are only lucky or unlucky after the fact.

Ck I am not sure if PrivacyBTC understands the concepts of solo mining.

Yes I understand but I'm trying to be blunt about the luck fact and not give people any illusions about what it means to mine solo. i.e. it's somewhere between lottery and gambling depending on how much you pour into it.

-ck

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Quote from: stevej on May 02, 2015, 05:16:44 PM

Quote from: -ck on May 02, 2015, 05:13:32 PM

MRR's overhead is quite small but unless you really need MRR between you and the pool for some other feature then I would always recommend the most direct connection regardless of where you mine as every tiny bit of latency matters in the event of finding a block to avoid losing a potential orphan race.

Thanks for the tip ck,
Changing them to direct now.
Hopefully I'll get lucky

Sure thing. I also forgot to mention that it means you are always working on new work as soon as possible whenever there's a block change on the network and wasting less work.

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Quote from: -ck on May 02, 2015, 05:13:32 PM

Quote from: stevej on May 02, 2015, 05:09:24 PM

a question..
I have 20 rigs on mining rig rentals as cafeg..

I've just sent 4 of the s3's over to ck's solo pool hopefully to get lucky

Is it better to send the rigs direct to ck's pool instead of going through mining rigs proxy ?

MRR's overhead is quite small but unless you really need MRR between you and the pool for some other feature then I would always recommend the most direct connection regardless of where you mine as every tiny bit of latency matters in the event of finding a block to avoid losing a potential orphan race.

Thanks for the tip ck,
Changing them to direct now.
Hopefully I'll get lucky

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Quote from: -ck on May 02, 2015, 05:05:30 PM

Quote from: PrivacyBTC on May 02, 2015, 02:02:26 PM

Im Talking about other side THE LUCK

There is no secret to luck. You are gambling and there is no way to make luck. You are only lucky or unlucky after the fact.

Ck I am not sure if PrivacyBTC understands the concepts of solo mining.

If you spend 12.5btc renting 1ph at .0101

you could win over 150 blocks with spectacular good luck.

You could win 0 blocks with average luck.

Assuming the software and the pools along with all the gear working correctly . the 12.5 btc above should have a 50% or 52 % chance hitting your pool 1 time in 29 hours that you would get for that rental.

And it has an unreal tiny chance of hitting 150 blocks in that time. super luck close to impossible .

I think he does not understand game theory math behind the odds. (assuming all conditions are correct)

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Quote from: stevej on May 02, 2015, 05:09:24 PM

a question..
I have 20 rigs on mining rig rentals as cafeg..

I've just sent 4 of the s3's over to ck's solo pool hopefully to get lucky

Is it better to send the rigs direct to ck's pool instead of going through mining rigs proxy ?

MRR's overhead is quite small but unless you really need MRR between you and the pool for some other feature then I would always recommend the most direct connection regardless of where you mine as every tiny bit of latency matters in the event of finding a block to avoid losing a potential orphan race.

stevej

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a question..
I have 20 rigs on mining rig rentals as cafeg..

I've just sent 4 of the s3's over to ck's solo pool hopefully to get lucky

Is it better to send the rigs direct to ck's pool instead of going through mining rigs proxy ?

-ck

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Quote from: PrivacyBTC on May 02, 2015, 02:02:26 PM

Im Talking about other side THE LUCK

There is no secret to luck. You are gambling and there is no way to make luck. You are only lucky or unlucky after the fact.

ezeminer

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Quote from: PrivacyBTC on May 02, 2015, 02:02:26 PM

Im Talking about other side THE LUCK

Many here loosing too much money like me in renting hash and due to some users have many btc to spent so the winner is the power

so all other power gone ( wasted ) . Its too bad to know that about 10 btc spent daily in solo pool as a wasted power .

I want you all imagine that 400 miners worked in this environment and only one will win and 399 miners worked many days and generated a wasted power.

My point is

1st miner will solve the block in 2 days
2nd miner will solve the block in 5 days if the 1st didn't .
3rd miner will solve the block in 10 days if the 1 or 2nd didn't.
...etc

If each miners run separately in own pool sure it will solve the block , and we will save the power .

10 solo pools is lucky than only one . many miners will wins

And 10 solo pools fees (server fee ) not cost more than 200$ / month.

Well consider this, if you rent 100Th for 6 hours or 200Th for 3 hours ypu still have the same chance overall. It is mote about how much you put in. If you put in 12.5BTC you have in theory a 50% chance of finding a block. Only if the hash cost is .0101 per TH

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Im Talking about other side THE LUCK

Many here loosing too much money like me in renting hash and due to some users have many btc to spent so the winner is the power

so all other power gone ( wasted ) . Its too bad to know that about 10 btc spent daily in solo pool as a wasted power .

I want you all imagine that 400 miners worked in this environment and only one will win and 399 miners worked many days and generated a wasted power.

My point is

1st miner will solve the block in 2 days
2nd miner will solve the block in 5 days if the 1st didn't .
3rd miner will solve the block in 10 days if the 1 or 2nd didn't.
...etc

If each miners run separately in own pool sure it will solve the block , and we will save the power .

10 solo pools is lucky than only one . many miners will wins

And 10 solo pools fees (server fee ) not cost more than 200$ / month.

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Quote from: PrivacyBTC on May 02, 2015, 09:40:37 AM

Ck we need your help to learn the secret of solo mining .

the Role to find a block is

Power or luck

If we choose power so we have to rent about 1p a day .
If we choose Luck so we can link our miners and rentals to 10 pools.

If I Rent a V P S server for 1 month with full performance and create 10 solo pool then Link my 10 miners divided to them 1 miner run in 1 pool
(OR RENT 100 T a day and divided 10 T for 1 Pool ) dose I will have great chance to got at least 1 lucky block ?

Thanks very much

the secret is renting hash from a good source at cheap prices. If you can rent a 100 th at about 0.0101 the math is in your favor. If you pay 0.0105 or more the math is against you. It is not very complicated.

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Ck we need your help to learn the secret of solo mining .

the Role to find a block is

Power or luck

If we choose power so we have to rent about 1p a day .
If we choose Luck so we can link our miners and rentals to 10 pools.

If I Rent a V P S server for 1 month with full performance and create 10 solo pool then Link my 10 miners divided to them 1 miner run in 1 pool
(OR RENT 100 T a day and divided 10 T for 1 Pool ) dose I will have great chance to got at least 1 lucky block ?

Thanks very much

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Just for about an hour --- playing around a little

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Quote from: kilo17 on May 01, 2015, 10:46:20 PM

so the million dollar question is - If I mine with 1 Ph for 24 hours, does it have the same odds as 2 Ph for 12 hours for finding a block? I know it appears to be the same but I would suspect that there is actually a difference - but I am not a statistics guy

Dang, you have 3PH at ckpool right now!

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Quote from: kilo17 on May 01, 2015, 10:46:20 PM

so the million dollar question is - If I mine with 1 Ph for 24 hours, does it have the same odds as 2 Ph for 12 hours for finding a block? I know it appears to be the same but I would suspect that there is actually a difference - but I am not a statistics guy

Yes it does.

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so the million dollar question is - If I mine with 1 Ph for 24 hours, does it have the same odds as 2 Ph for 12 hours for finding a block? I know it appears to be the same but I would suspect that there is actually a difference - but I am not a statistics guy

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Quote from: 727miner on May 01, 2015, 09:49:19 PM

Thanks, they're all back and happy now. I think MRR temporarily blocks a pool for 10 minutes if it can't connect to it (not sure what their threshold is) so it could be on their end, I just noticed it happened a few times tonight.

With all the recent bug tracking I was doing on Kano's pool and finally sorted the problems, this pool had ended up in an intermediate code point between the old and new when I last restarted it so it probably wasn't running ideal.

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Quote from: -ck on May 01, 2015, 09:39:56 PM

Quote from: 727miner on May 01, 2015, 09:36:59 PM

CK, is your server's datacenter having issues tonight? I've had alot of my rentals failover to their backup pool (kano's) several times over the last couple of hours. Just curious if you saw anything or not?

Seems ok but I'll give the pool a kick in the arse to bring it in line with current code just in case.

Thanks, they're all back and happy now. I think MRR temporarily blocks a pool for 10 minutes if it can't connect to it (not sure what their threshold is) so it could be on their end, I just noticed it happened a few times tonight.

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