Topic: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 suspended on 16st Mar 2021 - page 103. (Read 143533 times)

Hi,

I can see a lot of assumptions and false statements. Let's clear this out:

1. You claimed your "delayed bets" came from the on-site autobetter. Not true, since we have detailed logs of the bets being placed via API. Through your emails to me you did not even mention using Dicebot with YOLOdice. I had to point this out for you, only then you changed your story, which in the beginning not only did not mention Dicebot being used, but you clearly blamed the on-site autobetter for resuming bets on it's own.

2. I analyzed requests made by your script and tried to explain them in our email conversation. I have no idea why Dicebot (or any other script you had) tried to make several requests to YD trying to place bets, but that's what it was.

3. I can only see the requests coming and bets being placed. I cannot be responsible for any requests made either through human error, or software error, especially when it's 3rd party software. I think that's pretty obvious and I don't think any other site would do otherwise.

4. I am not accusing anyone of lying. Simply enough with the data I have I cannot determine what happened on your end. It could be software glitch, network error or human error, or any of the above combined. Maybe Dicebot (or any other script you've been using) does not work well when you try to place bets over web/api at the same time. Maybe you accidentally started it? Obviously your story is missing something.

5. The only explanation that comes to my mind is that your Dicebot got out of control. Since you admitted you've been alternating on-site playing and Dicebot, there was something you did not fully control.



As I said, I have server logs that clearly say bets were placed via API. The part about the upgrade - simply not true.

The case is closed, there is not much more I can do.

The delays in my email communication was because I've been camping with my family. Although I tried to deal with urgent cases every day, I might have not been super-prompt to answer every email on-time.

Cheers,
Ethan

"i lost about  0.5 +   BTC to you in 2 days.   is that how you treat customers who spend that much money with you?"

You didn't lose anything to me.  I don't own the site, nor do I have any coins invested in it.  I'm just a Mod, pointing out that A) you did get an answer to your ticket B) Ethan is currently on vacation C) You were provided proof from the owner that the error was on your end and yet you're refusing to believe it anyway and come here in this thread trying to scare people away from YOLOdice saying they'll lose their coins.  Ethan said explicitly in the email you screenshotted that the betting commands came from your end or whatever script/bot you were using.  He didn't say "That's strange indeed" because he was agreeing with you, he said it because it's strange a bot/script would be programmed to try and continually bet like that.

I'm not gonna argue here anymore, I asked Ethan to respond here when he comes online again, so it's likely he'll prove you wrong yet again, and you'll deny it anyway.

first off i did not lie, i only told the facts of what happened and your calling me a liar and dumb.

i never said he did not respond, i said he had  BUT it had been several days since his last email.   
https://prnt.sc/k122gi

so that makes me a liar??

this was his last email
https://prnt.sc/k12217

he did not say anything like, well  too  bad go away or nothing.    that is no resolution to me asking what he was going to do. i asked would he refund me in anyway or anything...  he never really answers.   10 ppl will read his email and some will think that was a get FN lost response some wont.  i was waiting  for more info  on why he thought it "was strange indeed"

i sent him the pics of both  pc's running,  one with one account and one with another.  and  it shows the accounts name in the pics

so your saying that i can run across the room,   copy paste the last bet amount,  multiply it.   tip myself from another pc,  then run across the room to try and place that bet all in under 31 seconds?

come on man, seriously?   

i said I know at that time i was betting on the site, he said no you were using the bot.   his proof i was playing on the bot was his server logs.   

server logs can be created/edited you name it,it is a text file.    the screen shots i sent show the times of best etc to even look up, so mine can NOT be altered or made up in any way.     and again i was cordial and said well i do NOT want to call someone a liar but i am 100% sure i was betting on the site.

Now i did NOT ask or say i wanted my money back in this thread i am letting the public know that something is  strange and in fact he even states that in his email above "That's strange indeed"

you bashed me, and basically called me some superman scammer that can  make all these calculations and try and pull a bet out of a hat.  who and why in the hell would i try to do that with so much BTC ,  no one is gonna by that .

i said  once the bet is stopped for exceeded balance it should NOT  be keep trying to roll, that is a bug.

ppl can lose a LOT of BTC on this,  i got up and walked away and came back and sat down .11 + lighter in the pocket and i want ppl aware of what could happen to them so be careful.

your response and quick to jump out and bash someone makes you look a bit bad.

 i lost about  0.5 +   BTC to you in 2 days.   is that how you treat customers who spend that much money with you?

"so its been days and no response"

Is a blatant lie, I already talked to Ethan several days ago, and he says he responded to you several times (he also happens to be on vacation this week).  Just because he gave you an answer you don't like does not mean they did not answer.  Not only that but you yourself state that he "said" certain things, which means you did indeed get a response.

Secondly, it is literally impossible for the YD servers to make bets on their own.  It must receive a command from either a user-end (like mobile or a PC web page), a betting bot, or the API.  When I spoke to Ethan about this (if I remember correctly), he had said you were also using the API to bet, and had at least two instances of YOLOdice opened.  It is very possible that you ran a script/bot that would have continued the betting after receiving a tip to top up the balance again.  All placed bets come from the user's end, nothing can start/stop/change on its own.

Also statements like "but they gave me NO  proof that it was a bot other than he had server logs and that can be made up anyways let's be honest here" just make you look dumb.  What kind of proof are you expecting, if not server logs?  If it was this supposed bug you're so desperately trying to "help" with, then server logs would show that it's exactly not a bug.

Where's the "proof" that you didn't walk back to your first computer in that 31 seconds and place the bet yourself?

"lack of response for a resolution is what really made it worse"

I'd also like to repeat that Ethan did indeed respond to you at least once, as you said yourself in your post; just because you are unhappy with a resolution/answer doesn't mean you didn't get one.  There was no bug, because YD can't place bets on its own, plain and simple.

so its been days and no response so  i am going to post here about what has happened to me on this site, i suggest  you stay clear from it.

in one week i got my balance up to 0.62  BTC

June 23rd, i start just getting unlucky as hell,   and drop 0.37 +   Not a complaint from me or crying scam.  its gambling and i was up so no biggie

so June 24th i'm gambling along on this site, switching from manual to auto rolling.    and i have alternated using the dicebot.  which is acceptable  to use.

well again bad luck  on my side...  so im autorolling and  i got wrecked,   bets stopped because i exceeded balance.

so im like crap , i walk over to another PC and tip myself.  I walk back and my balance is GONE!  all in like 31 seconds

https://prnt.sc/jyytui

https://prnt.sc/jyyuay

https://prnt.sc/jyyuj8

so, first i explain the situation cause i did NOT want them think i was trying to scam.

made it very clear that hey no way i could have calculated what the next bet would be and try a manual roll with that amount and then lose it and blame the site.

from the screen grabs you can see there was 31 seconds delay.

I know from dealing with other sites they ALWAYS  blame the gambler.  so i wanted that out of the way.

next he says oh you did it on the bot and it is the bots fault.  I am not trying to call anyone a liar  but they gave me NO  proof that it was a bot other than he had server logs and that can be made up anyways let's be honest here.

then they do site upgrades after i report this bug,  again can i prove they also were doing this to fix that bug no.

they claim the bot kept trying to roll, and when it got a balance it rolled again 31 seconds later.   first of i am 100% i was not using a bot cause i remember the red writing under the roll saying that  amount was exceeded.

If the bot stopped as it does, or even on the site if you exceed the amount.  and it stops.  either way it stops it should NEVER  roll again 31 seconds later with the next bet in sequence. 

on that roll i lost over 0.11 BTC  and im not mathematician  but i had about 0.07 still in when i tipped myself  0.192  BTC.   the bet that stopped was at 0.05 and it could NOT bet again, so i am sure someone could do the math on that.

after he said oh the bot kept rolling, and thought was odd.  that was it...  never another email about any sort of resolution or nothing.  its been 3 days nothing even after  a few more cordial emails asking what is the outcome or resolution.  but nothing no emails  just ignored

this is not  a sore loser cause again i lost 0.37+  the day b4 without any complaints.  this is a site bug.

if it can send a trigger to stop betting cause your balances has been exceeded,  then it can also be sure it does NOT  roll onto the next number in sequence which is a HUGE amount like what happened to me.

anyone that has ever used dicebot, which i was not at the time and told them right off the bat.   first of all because if i was i would have said so since it is not against the TOS, i was trying to report a bug and being helpful.  But diecbot  stops when balance has been exceeded.  you have to manually click it to start again.  and it DOES NOT  bet the next time with the next bet in sequence but  the starting base bet you set it at.

what upsets me more than losing that bet that never should have been made,  the lack of response for a resolution is what really made it worse. This is a bug, no person expects to walk away after being wrecked, to deposit more funds and bets are trying to be placed over and over until there is a balance.

Its a Bug that is rare and prob never thought possible,  and almost impossible to recreate.    someone can LOSE a ton of money and they do not care to address it.   

Nope, it's probably on your end; for me it's working fine.

It's fixed now. ETH is the most difficult coin I've been working with, mostly in terms of node reliability. No coins are lost, and we are implementing workaraounds for most of the quirks, so ETH support at YD is getting better, but still it's tricky.

Anyway, I am sorry about the issue (and all other ETH issues), things should be good now.

Cheers!
Ethan

Seems to be an issue with most ETH operations currently. Betting, exchanging, tipping, etc.

Hi there, this has already been discussed on the past, and if I remember correctly Ethan didn't have much of an interest in adding DOGE.  Anything can happen, but I really wouldn't consider it to be likely.

Will you consider adding dogecoin on your site?

Fixed, thanks!!

Hi,

we had a small issue with ETH deposits over the weekend - a single transaction was throwing an exception in our code and this prevented all subsequent blocks from being parsed correctly.

When you read it I bet all the deposits should be parsed already.

Cheers,
Ethan

A command to query rates for all by yolo supported coins (and maybe $) at once.
something like

!btc 0.01 =>
  0.5 LTC -> 0.1 ETH -> 70$

The first three wouldn't be something to add to AM because they're things that are easy to find just on the site.

The last couple won't be added because I don't run a LTC node on my machine and don't have any plans to.

The last ones are fine ideas though, just not something I'm going to add.

Hey ethan did you speak to scott we all are waiting for your decision, please update us with your decision 

I don't know do you like my ideas or not but still, I would like to suggest something.

!mintip it should say minimum tip amount for all currencies.
!minwd it should say minimum wd amounts for all currencies.
!wdfee it should get the dynamic fee data for all currencies and print them.

right now !last prints about the btc blockchain last block.
is it possible to add something like..

!last ltc - prints about ltc last block.
!mempool ltc - prints about ltc mempool size.


Thanks.

AM has been stable for a while now. While I'm not actively developing it anymore, if anybody has any feature requests, I'll gladly take a look at them.

+1

Guys, please, stop spamming this thread with mundane and redundant responses just so you can get your sig campaign posts.

I have seen several of you do it, re-hashing the same discussion over and over again, saying the same stuff as someone else but changing the wording.  I was ignoring it for quite a while, but the last few weeks it's been pretty bad, and super obvious you're only trying to meet your posting requirements.  I'm not going to say any names, but please let's stop this nonsense, or I'll have to ask Ethan if he'll remove you from the sig campaign.

Let's try and keep the discussions here constructive.