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Quote from: tygeade on June 05, 2023, 11:29:19 AM

We buy Gold because we have a reason. It's mainly because we want to earn a profit later on because like Bitcoin, Gold's value is also rising due to scarcity. We don't know if WW3 is really coming so we continue to buy more Gold but if it's already confirmed then it would be better to sell off our Gold and invest on easy to carry and safe assets when it comes to wars. That would be cryptocurrencies. Don't worry because stocking of basic necessities are already in our minds.

This is of course more important than anything else because if we will die, our investments will still be useless. The governments are also going to provide a help for those who don't have the ability to buy goods.

I do agree that gold and bitcoin has a similarity in that sense, bitcoin and fiat has a similarity in the sense that we spend them as well and we do not spend gold. So, when you think about it, bitcoin has the best of both worlds, spend like fiat, save like gold and you have it digitally which is much easier to get considering the other two as well.

I believe that we are going to see bitcoin grow up exactly because of this reason, because people will keep on spending it, and will end up at the hands of people who want to save it eventually, leaving less and less bitcoin available in the market so people will have to spend more to get it and the demand will go way beyond the supply so in order to balance it we will go up in price without a doubt.

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Ah, you're envisioning an economic cataclysm like some kind of 21st-century prophet! You've stitched together elements straight out of a summer blockbuster - stashing gold, financial freefalls, imminent conflicts. It's like you're directing 'Game of Thrones,' only with economic theorists instead of Westerosi nobles!

How about we take a chill pill, though? The move by big guns to stockpile gold doesn't automatically scream 'apocalypse incoming.' Gold has always been a reliable buddy in shaky economic times; maybe they're just playing safe, you know? Granted, if the Fed slashes rates again, we could be looking at inflation on the rise, but let's not go zero to hundred into hyperinflation territory. And the whole fiat currencies losing all their value? Mate, you're plotting an economic endgame scenario there!

And World War 3? I mean, c'mon! Yes, past wars have shaken up the gold market, but connecting a Fed rate adjustment to a global conflict is like expecting a sharknado because you spotted a goldfish in your toilet bowl! As for Russia, trade deficits, and embargoes, you're not totally off the mark, but let's not forget that economics isn't all black and white. There's always more stirring beneath the surface than meets the eye.

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Quote from: tygeade on June 05, 2023, 11:29:19 AM

Quote from: davis196 on June 04, 2023, 06:17:07 AM

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And off course i don't like it you dont like it ww3 is about to break out any time soon

If World War 3 is about to start then what's the point of buying gold? We all should buy food, water and other necessary stuff in order to survive. We can't eat gold, when there's a food shortage. Grin

Yes, you could use gold to buy food, but what's the point for the food sellers to acquire more gold? World War 3 would be most likely a thermonuclear war and the human civilization would be wiped out of the face of the Earth. There's no point of hoarding precious metals like gold.
And no, I don't believe that there will be hyperinflation in the USA anytime soon.
You are basically shit-posting in order to boost your post count.

We buy Gold because we have a reason. It's mainly because we want to earn a profit later on because like Bitcoin, Gold's value is also rising due to scarcity. We don't know if WW3 is really coming so we continue to buy more Gold but if it's already confirmed then it would be better to sell off our Gold and invest on easy to carry and safe assets when it comes to wars. That would be cryptocurrencies. Don't worry because stocking of basic necessities are already in our minds.

This is of course more important than anything else because if we will die, our investments will still be useless. The governments are also going to provide a help for those who don't have the ability to buy goods.

I agree. It is quite of a gamble to those who would purchase gold even if a war is being anticipated. What contributes to the increase with gold's price is the resources to mine it, which keeps harder and harder as years are passing hy simply because it has been mined for years consistently, and that it has a several usage. They know for sure the risk of not being able to make use of it and tendency to regret just buying essentials if a war happens. Even governments would have nothing to do once a wide war emerge. They might be paying their benefit of the doubt, that things will recover eventually.

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Quote from: davis196 on June 04, 2023, 06:17:07 AM

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And off course i don't like it you dont like it ww3 is about to break out any time soon

If World War 3 is about to start then what's the point of buying gold? We all should buy food, water and other necessary stuff in order to survive. We can't eat gold, when there's a food shortage. Grin

Yes, you could use gold to buy food, but what's the point for the food sellers to acquire more gold? World War 3 would be most likely a thermonuclear war and the human civilization would be wiped out of the face of the Earth. There's no point of hoarding precious metals like gold.
And no, I don't believe that there will be hyperinflation in the USA anytime soon.
You are basically shit-posting in order to boost your post count.

We buy Gold because we have a reason. It's mainly because we want to earn a profit later on because like Bitcoin, Gold's value is also rising due to scarcity. We don't know if WW3 is really coming so we continue to buy more Gold but if it's already confirmed then it would be better to sell off our Gold and invest on easy to carry and safe assets when it comes to wars. That would be cryptocurrencies. Don't worry because stocking of basic necessities are already in our minds.

This is of course more important than anything else because if we will die, our investments will still be useless. The governments are also going to provide a help for those who don't have the ability to buy goods.

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Economic situations that are difficult to guess and usually more difficult to make us have to prepare from now on, preparation from the beginning by spreading a lot of money for investment is the right choice so that our future is not disturbed if bad things happen for example inflation that increases significantly.

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We do not know when world war three will start but let's hope it won't be anytime soon. And if many people buy gold, it may be the best for them. But I'm sure other people won't think like that because they already have plans and will still survive.

We must be able to adapt to circumstances that will occur and that is why many people are still trying to be able to carry out their plans. Whether they will continue to buy gold, silver, bitcoin or something else, we must be able to prepare ourselves for whatever will happen to survive well.

And we don't need to worry too much about what will happen and it's better to focus on ourselves to prepare everything before it's too late. Just let the people in the government think about it and as the people, we can only try and survive.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on June 01, 2023, 10:56:02 AM

Honestly speaking, the state of the u.s right now is a bit lopsided, to be honest. Because the country of America is already deeply in debt in the amount of 31T$ do you think this country can recover?

On the contrary, do you see them weakening? Even if their debt will grow even more in the future, these are just numbers they give, and they can delete or add whenever they want. They hold the money printing machine, how can they default?

Quote from: gunhell16 on June 01, 2023, 10:56:02 AM

Especially now that they don't even have a gold backup for their dollar currency. Then they defaulted and what they did could lead to a recession, something that most people don't want to happen. But I don't think we will end up in ww3.

It was they who proposed to remove the gold-pegged currency, so they did not need to reserve enough gold to back up the USD. But as far as I know, the US is also the country with the largest gold reserves in the world. I don't like America and what they do, especially their dirty political battlefield, but to say they will default is very unlikely.

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And off course i don't like it you dont like it ww3 is about to break out any time soon

If World War 3 is about to start then what's the point of buying gold? We all should buy food, water and other necessary stuff in order to survive. We can't eat gold, when there's a food shortage. Grin

Yes, you could use gold to buy food, but what's the point for the food sellers to acquire more gold? World War 3 would be most likely a thermonuclear war and the human civilization would be wiped out of the face of the Earth. There's no point of hoarding precious metals like gold.
And no, I don't believe that there will be hyperinflation in the USA anytime soon.
You are basically shit-posting in order to boost your post count.

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Your post reads like every doomsday prepper over the last two decades promising that the time has come. Maybe some facts and objective metrics would be in line instead of the economic hysteria. Are you privy to information the rest of us don't have?

Quote from: Shortmaster on June 01, 2023, 09:40:46 AM

Russia can keep longer....but the problem is trade defecite and trading embargoso Even after 2 years russia will run out of money and usa.
After 2 years world will run out of the money and war can not last long so the both sides west and the east must stop the war If they run out the financial resources.

You think countries sitting on many billions of dollars in natural resources will run out of money in two years. Maybe in your own head, not in reality.

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If buying gold was the right choice made by the rich during the past months, this does not mean that it is the ideal solution for the coming months. When you look at the economy today, you will find that the rate of interest rate hikes will slow down, and economies have begun to adapt to the conditions of war. There are no electoral campaigns this year, and therefore countries will be less strict in their policies, not to mention the oil and energy prices that will start to decline, all of which may make the dollar stronger, and we know the inverse relationship. between the dollar and gold.

This will require countries to start moving to accelerate production instead of saving money and drying up liquidity.

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This isn't even the most logical thing I read today, let alone in general. This is as obvious as it gets and everyone is aware of it. Why do you think that we are accumulating bitcoin so much? We know that economy can't handle the current situation, and do you know when will be the next debt ceiling increase USA will have? 2025, exactly one year after the halving.

So all in all we are all aware that a huge increase in bitcoin price coming because a huge decrease in value of fiat coming along with it. Russia doing worse everyday due to the war, China doing worse due to huge amount of bankruptcies and real estate issues, USA doing worse because of debt problems, UK doing worse because of brexit, and many other reasons. So in 2 years all the nations will crumble again, not as much as 2020-2022 period I assume but they will and we will have a bigger increase.

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Quote from: Fortify on June 02, 2023, 05:12:10 PM

Quote from: Shortmaster on June 01, 2023, 09:40:46 AM

You are not prepared becouse you are not interested economics and how the world works generally speaking how the system works.
In lately there been a lot gold buying transactions (otc) to avoid having the bullish influence over the gold price.
The biggest guys and girls don't make moves for fun...they know what's coming.
They bought big loads of gold becouse they know fed will cut rates one more time debt ceiling will be lifted and hyperinflation will be rampant we gona see the days when fiat currencies are close to or allmost near by 100% devaluation.
And off course i don't like it you dont like it ww3 is about to break out any time soon right after last fed 25 basis point hike.
Becouse before the war the big boys and girls the elite will always buy the gold you will know that by looking what they Actually doing it.
However USA russia ukraine NATO have only short time period left to know whos winner in this war becouse fed can only keep rates low 2-3 years not longer.
Russia can keep longer....but the problem is trade defecite and trading embargoso Even after 2 years russia will run out of money and usa.
After 2 years world will run out of the money and war can not last long so the both sides west and the east must stop the war If they run out the financial resources.

Becouse all of this i have Made my future life plan

You sound crazy, like many gold nuts who have come and go before you. You have no plan except hope, which is a major weakness. Unlike what you say, the stock market has been the best performing asset over the longest time frame. Gold might look good right now, because everyone flocks into these assets and cause a bubble, which inevitably bursts. If a peace plan was reached between Ukraine and Russia tomorrow, you would start to see these "safe haven" commodities crumble in price. It also overlooks the fact that if you buy into stocks instead, companies pay out - either through reinvestment or dividend payments, every year while the best companies just keep on growing their profits too.

I agree with you. You should be teaching here economics you talking correct.
Yes it's true Im not gold fan...but in times of hyperinflation it's good to make profit.
Since war Will last long max 2 years so that's the time we see the short time bull run for gold and off course crash of gold commodities prices.

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Quote from: Shortmaster on June 01, 2023, 09:40:46 AM

You are not prepared becouse you are not interested economics and how the world works generally speaking how the system works.
In lately there been a lot gold buying transactions (otc) to avoid having the bullish influence over the gold price.
The biggest guys and girls don't make moves for fun...they know what's coming.
They bought big loads of gold becouse they know fed will cut rates one more time debt ceiling will be lifted and hyperinflation will be rampant we gona see the days when fiat currencies are close to or allmost near by 100% devaluation.
And off course i don't like it you dont like it ww3 is about to break out any time soon right after last fed 25 basis point hike.
Becouse before the war the big boys and girls the elite will always buy the gold you will know that by looking what they Actually doing it.
However USA russia ukraine NATO have only short time period left to know whos winner in this war becouse fed can only keep rates low 2-3 years not longer.
Russia can keep longer....but the problem is trade defecite and trading embargoso Even after 2 years russia will run out of money and usa.
After 2 years world will run out of the money and war can not last long so the both sides west and the east must stop the war If they run out the financial resources.

Becouse all of this i have Made my future life plan

You sound crazy, like many gold nuts who have come and go before you. You have no plan except hope, which is a major weakness. Unlike what you say, the stock market has been the best performing asset over the longest time frame. Gold might look good right now, because everyone flocks into these assets and cause a bubble, which inevitably bursts. If a peace plan was reached between Ukraine and Russia tomorrow, you would start to see these "safe haven" commodities crumble in price. It also overlooks the fact that if you buy into stocks instead, companies pay out - either through reinvestment or dividend payments, every year while the best companies just keep on growing their profits too.

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Quote from: dothebeats on June 02, 2023, 06:13:17 AM

That money has to go somewhere. If the West and the East loses their money in wars and other economic moves to disadvantage the other, that money they expend will be going towards those who produces the gears of these wars. No one will really lose that money in the long run, it will just be redistributed, and with it comes a power that these two huge entities are holding on for the longest of time.

I think by now, many people know that a recession is coming, but not sure when. We have had scenarios before that are even more grave than what we have right now, but still that didn’t lead to anything significantly bad.

I agree with you. The law of conservation of energy applies in the world. It also applies to finance-if someone loses money, someone gains it. There is simply a redistribution of funds. For ordinary people hunger and war are bad, but for capitalists it's an opportunity to make additional profits. Unfortunately, the world is a very cruel place.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on June 01, 2023, 10:56:02 AM

Honestly speaking, the state of the u.s right now is a bit lopsided, to be honest. Because the country of America is already deeply in debt in the amount of 31T$ do you think this country can recover?

Despite the debt that the US government has incurred, it doesn't stop them from executing whatever project they want to do including wars. While in Pakistan they were in debts, while going after all the terrorists wars they have also been in debts notwithstanding all the humanitarian aids they deliver to other countries of the world. In fact debts have been known with US government since it was created, it is the highest indebted country of the world. From what I gathered from my research , it only cleared her debt during President Andrew Jackson in 1835-1836.

Quote from: gunhell16 on June 01, 2023, 10:56:02 AM

Especially now that they don't even have a gold backup for their dollar currency. Then they defaulted and what they did could lead to a recession, something that most people don't want to happen. But I don't think we will end up in ww3.

No body wants ww3 because it is going to be disastrous for all Nations and US have been careful handling the other countries like China, North Korea including the NATO influence in Russia. But I don't think US is anywhere near recession for now, apart from printing more notes, they can sell bonds or treasury bills to help their economy.

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That money has to go somewhere. If the West and the East loses their money in wars and other economic moves to disadvantage the other, that money they expend will be going towards those who produces the gears of these wars. No one will really lose that money in the long run, it will just be redistributed, and with it comes a power that these two huge entities are holding on for the longest of time.

I think by now, many people know that a recession is coming, but not sure when. We have had scenarios before that are even more grave than what we have right now, but still that didn’t lead to anything significantly bad.

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It is true that the Federal Reserve was harsh to curb inflation, but all the moves it made were expected, or at least it was too transparent, and therefore the markets were anticipating the outcome of the meeting before it happened, and therefore it built its plans to confront inflation accordingly.
all countries that buy gold do not buy gold to fight inflation, but rather to diversify their economy so that they have the preference to buy more dollars, or at least to strengthen their local currency.

The citizen does not have many options to fight inflation, at least the citizen who spends in the local currency, but he can and by using some tools and learning more from the economy to be in a better economic situation.

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Quote from: Shortmaster on June 01, 2023, 09:40:46 AM

However USA russia ukraine NATO have only short time period left to know whos winner in this war becouse fed can only keep rates low 2-3 years not longer.

Even of the world war II has an end, Afghanistan war got to an end, then what is the Russian Ukraine war that will not end anytime soon, my own fear is the casualties of innocent people from the both sides dying like chickens, the other aspect being affected is the economy distortion of the two countries and the threat Russia has against it relationship with it's allies by NATO and US, but i believe nevertheless that everything will come down to normal soon.

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