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I just had a really bad day gambling today with Roma losing a ticket for me and their odd was 1.20 and they were playing against the last place of Italian Serie A. I thought a bad day and move on and played another ticket this time I choose Brondby as they were playing at home against a team they had beaten almost always and the odd was 1.35. This was even worse as Brondby lost 2-4 at home to a team quoted from the bookies at 8.5

Now I am not an expert in gambling but this day was a really eye opener for me, you can never win in gambling. Imagine when you can't win in lotto , soccer betting or whatever you call it, you don't have a chance in slots.

Once you get in gambling, it means you are ready to lose your money. It is a matter of luck, were some are thinking their small capital could possibly become double, triple or more if you are lucky. In short, you can win often or seldom just very seldom.

I agree, but I think most gamblers don’t think that, they are only thinking that they can double or triple their capital without realizing the risk in gambling. Gambling is mostly about luck and it is not a guarantee that you will win always because gambling is set up in a way that you will incur more losses than wins.

A lot of people still believe that they can beat house edge, maybe if in sportsbet we still can analyze however our win or lose still decided by both team in match. But in luck games like dice for example, don't ever think we have strategies to beat the site.

That will not easy to beat the house, and I think that is a small percentage for every gambler who can beat them. Without having luck, gamblers are difficult to beat luck. But in the sportsbet, people can get their chance to win, but that will only work if they can get as much information from many sources so they can analyze which team who can win. But there is no guarantee to win in gambling, especially on the games based on the luck itself.

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Now I am not an expert in gambling but this day was a really eye opener for me, you can never win in gambling. Imagine when you can't win in lotto , soccer betting or whatever you call it, you don't have a chance in slots.

To be fair, gambling is too broad a term nowadays. We cannot generalize gambling as if all gambling games can be categorized as one. I mean, I cannot classify dice as the same as a game of poker. They are obviously two different bananas. In the same manner that you cannot classify gambling on a lotto and gambling on a soccer game as one.

The huge difference is that the other one is purely based on luck while the other could be won based on skills, or perhaps based on a brilliant analysis. Gambling on a slot machine is definitely a world different from gambling on a game between Roma and Brondby on Italian Serie A.

Perhaps you are just having an unlucky day, mate. There are always better days ahead.

The better day comes out of luck, and the skills make way to be luck. Sometimes out of fate even after getting close to luck things go out of track. This happens often, and most of the gamblers could've experienced it. Dice, poker and other forms of gambling vary with the requirements, but those too has dependence over luck. Skills were the base and luck is the concluding factor.

Well, I won't have to argue with you here. Gambling is really based on luck to a significant extent. But I would not be putting skill off as a major factor especially if we talk of poker, for example. As I have pointed out in another post days before, a 3 and 9 in your hands could actually bust a pair of aces. And a bettor who constantly monitors the players' skills, condition, chemistry, etc. is bound to win more than the one who just looks at which teams are playing.

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Quote from: DarkDays on July 22, 2019, 07:58:44 PM

I guess OP desn't understand that not all games are based on luck.
Plenty of online casinos have games with real skill elements built into them, whereas sportsbetting simply (or not so simply) requires you to know your sports better than the sportsbook does.
There are always inaccuracies that can be exploited, it just takes time, skill and diligence to do so.

agreed! even this has been discussed, about sportsbook betting mafia. there are many possibilities for certain clubs to play in this sector. and also the gambling is not entirely guessed will be wrong. many people out tnere able to read the conditions and possibilities. that's why many soccer magazines also discussed the gambling session on their headline.

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We have to look out for our activities on playing betting so as to win. If you're always dependent on lucky chances you couldn't win over gambling, because you're not giving off skills and knowledge towards betting.
Mostly gamblers really didn't win actually, they tend to win by recovery yet the situation is continued occurring so they'll be disappointed and will lose again and again.

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I guess OP doesn't understand that not all games are based on luck.

Plenty of online casinos have games with real skill elements built into them, whereas sportsbetting simply (or not so simply) requires you to know your sports better than the sportsbook does.

There are always inaccuracies that can be exploited, it just takes time, skill and diligence to do so.

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Quote from: Ailmand on July 22, 2019, 06:18:06 PM

You can actually win in gambling, the problem is people don't know how to control their greed and when to stop gambling.

What you are saying is a temporary win, to be consistent in gambling is what you called a success and everyone wants that.
Typical gamblers only won sometimes but loss most of the time and that does not show consistency, with this, gambling sites are getting more profitable.

It's how we think actually, if we are satisfied that way, then we will surely enjoy gambling but we won't be profitable.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 16, 2018, 11:55:26 AM

I just had a really bad day gambling today with Roma losing a ticket for me and their odd was 1.20 and they were playing against the last place of Italian Serie A. I thought a bad day and move on and played another ticket this time I choose Brondby as they were playing at home against a team they had beaten almost always and the odd was 1.35. This was even worse as Brondby lost 2-4 at home to a team quoted from the bookies at 8.5

Now I am not an expert in gambling but this day was a really eye opener for me, you can never win in gambling. Imagine when you can't win in lotto , soccer betting or whatever you call it, you don't have a chance in slots.

You can actually win in gambling, the problem is people don't know how to control their greed and when to stop gambling. People always chase for bigger profit and end up losing everything wasting their time sitting to gamble. That's what makes gambling addicting, people's desire to win easy profit while playing different games.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 16, 2018, 11:55:26 AM

Now I am not an expert in gambling but this day was a really eye opener for me, you can never win in gambling. Imagine when you can't win in lotto , soccer betting or whatever you call it, you don't have a chance in slots.

To be fair, gambling is too broad a term nowadays. We cannot generalize gambling as if all gambling games can be categorized as one. I mean, I cannot classify dice as the same as a game of poker. They are obviously two different bananas. In the same manner that you cannot classify gambling on a lotto and gambling on a soccer game as one.

The huge difference is that the other one is purely based on luck while the other could be won based on skills, or perhaps based on a brilliant analysis. Gambling on a slot machine is definitely a world different from gambling on a game between Roma and Brondby on Italian Serie A.

Perhaps you are just having an unlucky day, mate. There are always better days ahead.

The better day comes out of luck, and the skills make way to be luck. Sometimes out of fate even after getting close to luck things go out of track. This happens often, and most of the gamblers could've experienced it. Dice, poker and other forms of gambling vary with the requirements, but those too has dependence over luck. Skills were the base and luck is the concluding factor.

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Quote from: sunsilk on September 16, 2018, 06:25:58 PM

You can still win, you just did the wrong move of just betting according to your choice.

I know its hard to say that you can still win after all of those losses that you've come with. But that's how gambling works, you can expect the unexpected and not all the time the game is with you. Should I say, gambling isn't for everyone.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 16, 2018, 11:55:26 AM

Now I am not an expert in gambling but this day was a really eye opener for me, you can never win in gambling. Imagine when you can't win in lotto , soccer betting or whatever you call it, you don't have a chance in slots.

Gambling is not just talking about victory. Because everyone has the right to experience defeat. Such is the circus of gambling, if people win there must also be losers. And everyone must have felt victory and had also felt miserable. To be sure we can win in gambling and can lose also in gambling. It's really easy to understand it and that depends on how you think about gambling.

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I just had a really bad day gambling today with Roma losing a ticket for me and their odd was 1.20 and they were playing against the last place of Italian Serie A. I thought a bad day and move on and played another ticket this time I choose Brondby as they were playing at home against a team they had beaten almost always and the odd was 1.35. This was even worse as Brondby lost 2-4 at home to a team quoted from the bookies at 8.5

Now I am not an expert in gambling but this day was a really eye opener for me, you can never win in gambling. Imagine when you can't win in lotto , soccer betting or whatever you call it, you don't have a chance in slots.

Once you get in gambling, it means you are ready to lose your money. It is a matter of luck, were some are thinking their small capital could possibly become double, triple or more if you are lucky. In short, you can win often or seldom just very seldom.

I agree, but I think most gamblers don’t think that, they are only thinking that they can double or triple their capital without realizing the risk in gambling. Gambling is mostly about luck and it is not a guarantee that you will win always because gambling is set up in a way that you will incur more losses than wins.

A lot of people still believe that they can beat house edge, maybe if in sportsbet we still can analyze however our win or lose still decided by both team in match. But in luck games like dice for example, don't ever think we have strategies to beat the site.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 16, 2018, 11:55:26 AM

Now I am not an expert in gambling but this day was a really eye opener for me, you can never win in gambling. Imagine when you can't win in lotto , soccer betting or whatever you call it, you don't have a chance in slots.

To be fair, gambling is too broad a term nowadays. We cannot generalize gambling as if all gambling games can be categorized as one. I mean, I cannot classify dice as the same as a game of poker. They are obviously two different bananas. In the same manner that you cannot classify gambling on a lotto and gambling on a soccer game as one.

The huge difference is that the other one is purely based on luck while the other could be won based on skills, or perhaps based on a brilliant analysis. Gambling on a slot machine is definitely a world different from gambling on a game between Roma and Brondby on Italian Serie A.

Perhaps you are just having an unlucky day, mate. There are always better days ahead.

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When the experts says the gambling is a game of chance, then no one is sure of winning even a single game and mostly you on the side of losing. In a gamblingm even those who bragged themselves as masters of gambling have experienced more losses than winning games. There are really no techniques in winning a game, it is only pure luck.

Quite agree with your statement with gambling that indeed returns to the players luck.
but some other gambling games are still based on theory, mental and mind. like a poker card. sportbook. it is very different from gambling by relying entirely on luck. for me gambling its pure for killing time and for fun. thats what makes gambling addicted for me.

Killing time means that you are not aiming to have big winnings but instead you are just playing to have some fun and try some luck if its permits you,
though there's a lots of different views about gambling but one thing is for sure, when you are aiming to win big, the risk to lose more are always accompanied by it.

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I just had a really bad day gambling today with Roma losing a ticket for me and their odd was 1.20 and they were playing against the last place of Italian Serie A. I thought a bad day and move on and played another ticket this time I choose Brondby as they were playing at home against a team they had beaten almost always and the odd was 1.35. This was even worse as Brondby lost 2-4 at home to a team quoted from the bookies at 8.5

Now I am not an expert in gambling but this day was a really eye opener for me, you can never win in gambling. Imagine when you can't win in lotto , soccer betting or whatever you call it, you don't have a chance in slots.

You can still win but the odds if much lower than you will imagine especially in lotto, and other games that only one winner will take it all. But there are still some games that you can even win, and the odds are much higher. But I'm telling you that you must gamble for fun and excitement not for sure money, because once you think that every wage you make is equal to sure money, then you will be right that you can't win in gambling.

Basically, we can't win in gambling because we win in gambling by luck, without luck no chance to win, even in this stage, we can't say that our experience will be counted. Because we have only one option to win in gambling by luck and nothing more.

Not like that, in gambling there are several supporting factors that can be done as well as possible, because gambling does not fully rely on luck, if you realize about how much odds you can get well, then that's where experience and skills will be prioritized.

It depends where you gamble. Dice sites purely depends on luck imo. But on games like poker and betting on sportsbooks experience and skill does really help. In fact if you have good skills on a game like poker, even if you have bad luck on cards, you can still turn the table on your side for you to win.

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Quote from: jonaire99 on July 21, 2019, 10:51:12 PM

When the experts says the gambling is a game of chance, then no one is sure of winning even a single game and mostly you on the side of losing. In a gamblingm even those who bragged themselves as masters of gambling have experienced more losses than winning games. There are really no techniques in winning a game, it is only pure luck.

Quite agree with your statement with gambling that indeed returns to the players luck.
but some other gambling games are still based on theory, mental and mind. like a poker card. sportbook. it is very different from gambling by relying entirely on luck. for me gambling its pure for killing time and for fun. thats what makes gambling addicted for me.

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When the experts says the gambling is a game of chance, then no one is sure of winning even a single game and mostly you on the side of losing. In a gamblingm even those who bragged themselves as masters of gambling have experienced more losses than winning games. There are really no techniques in winning a game, it is only pure luck.

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I would agree that normally gambling should be only for fun

Gambling for fun has been told for so many times. Just accept the fact that there's a billion industry on it, we're all grown up here and we've been telling the same thing about it. Each gambler has their own reason why they gamble. And when we lose, we're reasoning out that we cannot win on it. But you are forgetting that whenever you win, you are overwhelmed and even have that confidence that you can win against the house because that boosts ego.

And accept the fact that these days Gambling is like a form of work or something that can be a place to profit and not just to have fun.
Actually my stand ever since is gambling must be treated as a for fun and enjoyment but checking the gambling section everyday?brings me another idea that I must accept and that is to treat this a serious case and if you’re not ready to lose,never try playing

Everyone can't accept that fact, all they say that 'hey gambling is for fun, hey gambling shouldn't be a source of income'. Yes, we all knew about that but come on, we are on the modern days and all of us know how to gamble and know how to make out of it. But not everyone can attain to make money from it, we can make some and lose a lot. I'm just telling that it's nothing new anymore and reasoning that gambling shouldn't be treated like that and while wearing a casino signature is hypocrisy.

Yes, not everyone find it a source of income and same as that everyone cannot succeed out of gambling. This is just an edge based play where you'll be the king today, but tomorrow another person will be the king. To keep up the winning it is a must to understand better about the scripts, strategies, betting limits and various other factors. Winning in gambling is possible with the user who has a satisfied mind even if he wins small amount.

yep i totally agree with you. its possible for the longterm. but you have to gamble with a clear mind and don't be driven by you emotions. i crashed 3 times my bankroll cause i got to angry and thought now i'm right.... nope i was not.
you can have the best strategy, it works in 90% of the cases. but when you got the 10% where it not works and you higher and higher and higher you gambling amount you are lost.
it's possible to win longterm, only if you can accept a loss in short-term.

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Gambling system is in the favor of the casino owner which beating the house edge is not a small task to just achieve to beat it. Many people are trying to win all of the funds in the gambling site's bankroll but failed to do so and in return those people trying to beat gambling system are the one who's bankroll are empty.

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We have no assurance to win on gamble, that's why we should not act aggressively by attaching to earn huge amount of money on every game we play. But most people take gamble as an entertainment field which will free from anxiety and believe that win rely on luck.

It is better to treat gambling as entertainment rather than anything else. The money that you will spend in the games should be considered as something that you lost along the way. Don't ever expect that it will get back, threefold or tenfold. Because you will be depressed if you are expecting that it will return even your initial capital.

In general, gambling is entertainment, not a way to earn income. Permanent profits are the owners of gambling, and not the players. Although there are still exceptions, when professional players made their games almost a constant source of income.

According to me gambling is both as it gives us entertainment at the same time it allows us to win high amount of money every time. In gambling if we will say that we cannot win so it may distract us so better don't think anything bad just play with all your potential and enjoy while playing don't take stress.

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Basically, we can't win in gambling because we win in gambling by luck, without luck no chance to win, even in this stage, we can't say that our experience will be counted. Because we have only one option to win in gambling by luck and nothing more.

I agree on that, gambling is really a luck game. If you don't have luck then It might lose a lot of money in the game. No one can easily acquire luck but I know that being intellectual also is part of the game. You may use it against your opponents as long it's legal and through that, it will make you more money.

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