You cannot win in gambling - page 13.

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Quote from: panjul07 on November 25, 2018, 11:12:00 AM

Quote from: slocker on November 25, 2018, 05:52:47 AM

Each gambling game have some sort of system and rules. If you find how to change then or to beat them then you beat the house of this/that game system. Many games have systems and many games have some flaws using them player or gambler is in position to beat the house.

In other words, we should try to cheat the system in order to win? Is that an illegal action and you can be a very bad position once you do it. Absolutely, house will always win but gambler also has their own edge to win once the luck is come. No need to cheat the system.
Sorry if I misunderstand your post.

I think he meant to say we need to understand the system and how to overcome those to win but it is impossible to do without any cheating so making money on this way is criminal act.

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Quote from: minersday on November 25, 2018, 05:10:30 PM

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Quote from: shursight on November 24, 2018, 12:39:33 PM

You can, but you need to be smart not to put all your money on a single game and on a single time.

That is the key if you lose, and you want to recover it.

Also, i saw a lot of people that at the time that they lose, they start to deposit more funds, and they start losing it all .

Yes, its necessary to adopt a good strategy when betting on sports games. In this case there was an upset on the games he bet, and that is part of the margin of error a gambler has to plan before betting, sometimes the unlucky teams unexpectedly win the game and you have to be prepared for this situation, holding an extra bankroll to keep playing and recovering the lost money.

In sports betting, house edge doesn't screw up our game, as we depend the games results, that are decided technically and not only by luck, so I think it's very possible to win in gambling by betting on sports, since a smart strategy is used, like you said, not putting all your money in a single or few games.

Sometimes the house wins, but sometimes, it doesn't.

But yes, most of the times, it is taking people's money when they do not even realize that they lost, maybe sometimes it happens because most of the gamblers just play because of the adrenaline.

It is all related to emotions

I don't think that way, I think the house wins most of the time if not all the time.
In the end, we still loss so anything that we enjoy is just temporary, therefore don't get too affected when you lose because that is just normal.

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Quote from: mrcash02 on November 25, 2018, 11:21:48 AM

Quote from: shursight on November 24, 2018, 12:39:33 PM

You can, but you need to be smart not to put all your money on a single game and on a single time.

That is the key if you lose, and you want to recover it.

Also, i saw a lot of people that at the time that they lose, they start to deposit more funds, and they start losing it all .

Yes, its necessary to adopt a good strategy when betting on sports games. In this case there was an upset on the games he bet, and that is part of the margin of error a gambler has to plan before betting, sometimes the unlucky teams unexpectedly win the game and you have to be prepared for this situation, holding an extra bankroll to keep playing and recovering the lost money.

In sports betting, house edge doesn't screw up our game, as we depend the games results, that are decided technically and not only by luck, so I think it's very possible to win in gambling by betting on sports, since a smart strategy is used, like you said, not putting all your money in a single or few games.

Sometimes the house wins, but sometimes, it doesn't.

But yes, most of the times, it is taking people's money when they do not even realize that they lost, maybe sometimes it happens because most of the gamblers just play because of the adrenaline.

It is all related to emotions

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Quote from: shursight on November 24, 2018, 12:39:33 PM

You can, but you need to be smart not to put all your money on a single game and on a single time.

That is the key if you lose, and you want to recover it.

Also, i saw a lot of people that at the time that they lose, they start to deposit more funds, and they start losing it all .

Yes, its necessary to adopt a good strategy when betting on sports games. In this case there was an upset on the games he bet, and that is part of the margin of error a gambler has to plan before betting, sometimes the unlucky teams unexpectedly win the game and you have to be prepared for this situation, holding an extra bankroll to keep playing and recovering the lost money.

In sports betting, house edge doesn't screw up our game, as we depend the games results, that are decided technically and not only by luck, so I think it's very possible to win in gambling by betting on sports, since a smart strategy is used, like you said, not putting all your money in a single or few games.

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Quote from: slocker on November 25, 2018, 05:52:47 AM

Each gambling game have some sort of system and rules. If you find how to change then or to beat them then you beat the house of this/that game system. Many games have systems and many games have some flaws using them player or gambler is in position to beat the house.

In other words, we should try to cheat the system in order to win? Is that an illegal action and you can be a very bad position once you do it. Absolutely, house will always win but gambler also has their own edge to win once the luck is come. No need to cheat the system.
Sorry if I misunderstand your post.

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Quote from: Ault on November 24, 2018, 05:13:11 PM

nO MATTER HOW good you think you are the house will always win because we are stubborn to stop when we have a chance to leave, and decide to keep playing and lose everything

The win of the house don't always focus on one gambler. There are a lot of gamblers that gamble away their money and that is a lot of profit from the owners, and is a win for them already. I feel really bad on these gamblers that can' stop gambling even though they are wasting their money on something that will not give them a profit. If I were them, I'd rather invest than to gamble.

There are lots of people playing gambling, online or in real life, and there are lots of people trying to be rich or atleast get some extra money from it and they don't know that they will just lose in the long run. Its a reality that needs to be realized by most people, upto these days there are still too much number of people trying to get rich quick

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Quote from: Ault on November 24, 2018, 05:13:11 PM

nO MATTER HOW good you think you are the house will always win because we are stubborn to stop when we have a chance to leave, and decide to keep playing and lose everything

As gamblers there are separate criteria when playing,its important for us to gamble in a lose or win position.No matter the house always wins,there are many gambling houses that are not given a big advantage player vs player.You don't have to understand that cause it will definitely favor the house in the position you made such a statement.

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Each gambling game have some sort of system and rules. If you find how to change then or to beat them then you beat the house of this/that game system. Many games have systems and many games have some flaws using them player or gambler is in position to beat the house.

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Quote from: Ault on November 24, 2018, 05:13:11 PM

nO MATTER HOW good you think you are the house will always win because we are stubborn to stop when we have a chance to leave, and decide to keep playing and lose everything

The win of the house don't always focus on one gambler. There are a lot of gamblers that gamble away their money and that is a lot of profit from the owners, and is a win for them already. I feel really bad on these gamblers that can' stop gambling even though they are wasting their money on something that will not give them a profit. If I were them, I'd rather invest than to gamble.

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nO MATTER HOW good you think you are the house will always win because we are stubborn to stop when we have a chance to leave, and decide to keep playing and lose everything

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Quote from: onrise on November 24, 2018, 07:40:37 AM

Quote from: dogandogru on November 23, 2018, 09:55:30 AM

I think you made the wrong move because of your wrong assumptions or expectations. Anything can happen anytime and this is how gambling works. You cannot play the according on your terms. Don’t lose hopes like this. Be positive as it is completely possible to win even after the losses. Just think of this as your sheer bad luck and next time think and analyze all the possibilities and then make any decision.

I would suggest to take a break or stop for a while because playing again to recover the losses is not a good idea and this could be more dangerous as chances of losing money is always high as house have the edge and this would be double blow if played and lost the money.

Yes this mini break will make your mind fresh and you will get new tricks of winning so never stop but never play constantly because this will make your get bore too, if you will stop taking interest so you will start running your skills being a gambler, you can play if you think your are not earning wait and see what’s wrong in your way of playing, get it and work on it you will surely win.

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You can, but you need to be smart not to put all your money on a single game and on a single time.

That is the key if you lose, and you want to recover it.

Also, i saw a lot of people that at the time that they lose, they start to deposit more funds, and they start losing it all .

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Quote from: dogandogru on November 23, 2018, 09:55:30 AM

I think you made the wrong move because of your wrong assumptions or expectations. Anything can happen anytime and this is how gambling works. You cannot play the according on your terms. Don’t lose hopes like this. Be positive as it is completely possible to win even after the losses. Just think of this as your sheer bad luck and next time think and analyze all the possibilities and then make any decision.

I would suggest to take a break or stop for a while because playing again to recover the losses is not a good idea and this could be more dangerous as chances of losing money is always high as house have the edge and this would be double blow if played and lost the money.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 22, 2018, 05:13:00 AM

In short, you will never win in gambling if you want to do it consistently, at least that's the right word everyone should know and it's up to us if we will try our journey in gambling and if we believe it's possible to win, then we should evaluate our skills if we have the tools to be successful.

Here is a link to a post someone pasted on the gambling thread of the owner of Bet365 carting away with at least $1m daily in 2017 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48121577 … Probably if people started realizing that this money is basically from them based on their level of gambling and addiction, maybe they will have a rethink on how they need to be approaching gambling, knowing that in it, you are not making anything and in most cases, you are losing hugely unless you are lucky, and even if you manage to get lucky at some point, unless you just don't come back to gambling anymore, it still gets taken back away from you.

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I think you made the wrong move because of your wrong assumptions or expectations. Anything can happen anytime and this is how gambling works. You cannot play the according on your terms. Don’t lose hopes like this. Be positive as it is completely possible to win even after the losses. Just think of this as your sheer bad luck and next time think and analyze all the possibilities and then make any decision.

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Quote from: Wete on November 16, 2018, 10:43:04 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 14, 2018, 10:18:46 AM

Quote from: swogerino on September 16, 2018, 12:55:26 PM

Now I am not an expert in gambling but this day was a really eye opener for me, you can never win in gambling. Imagine when you can't win in lotto , soccer betting or whatever you call it, you don't have a chance in slots.

I'm not an expert in gambling too but saying that you can never win in gambling is just bullshit. Maybe you are just saying this because you can't accept your lost. If winning in gambling is impossible then why are many people still gambling right now??

I disagree with you. You can win in gambling. You just need the right ingredients to win like luck, strategy, discipline, etc.

Gambling is about winning or losing, if you are not ready to lose don't approach gambling. In gambling, I am personally guided only by luck.

but I don't agree if gambling can win with certain ingredients such as strategy, discipline, and so on. I just believe that most of what
determines win is only luck, but I realize that you can win in gambling, but you can't be sure and guarantee that you will win

That is we call it as luck simply. Wink

But making money from the gambling is really a wrong intention and it can ruin our life so better find a job to make money and the do gamble only to test our luck and most importantly get entertained.

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Quote from: Wete on November 16, 2018, 10:43:04 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 14, 2018, 10:18:46 AM

Quote from: swogerino on September 16, 2018, 12:55:26 PM

Now I am not an expert in gambling but this day was a really eye opener for me, you can never win in gambling. Imagine when you can't win in lotto , soccer betting or whatever you call it, you don't have a chance in slots.

I'm not an expert in gambling too but saying that you can never win in gambling is just bullshit. Maybe you are just saying this because you can't accept your lost. If winning in gambling is impossible then why are many people still gambling right now??

I disagree with you. You can win in gambling. You just need the right ingredients to win like luck, strategy, discipline, etc.

Gambling is about winning or losing, if you are not ready to lose don't approach gambling. In gambling, I am personally guided only by luck.

but I don't agree if gambling can win with certain ingredients such as strategy, discipline, and so on. I just believe that most of what
determines win is only luck, but I realize that you can win in gambling, but you can't be sure and guarantee that you will win

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on November 18, 2018, 06:31:20 PM

Quote from: dead_m92 on November 18, 2018, 06:10:20 PM

That is exactly what i was going to say, lotto is a very good way to not have too many loses.

Anyway, i preffer not to gamble wheen you do not have a good sum of money, because you can risk it all, and end up losing it all too.

But yes, you can win sometimes

Quote from: pixie85 on September 16, 2018, 03:43:31 PM

Lotto gives you much lower chance of winning than simple games like dice or roulette. I think that you can win in gambling just not in the long run. The more you play the more you pay the casino but sometimes you do win. When you lose it makes you biased against gambling the same way that winning makes you biased towards it.

You can also have many losses in lotto if you're betting everyday. Others are betting continously for how many years and yet didn't have a single luck. If you add it all, still a lot of money. The only way you could have few losses in gambling is to minimize your playing time and your bankroll.

In short, you will never win in gambling if you want to do it consistently, at least that's the right word everyone should know and it's up to us if we will try our journey in gambling and if we believe it's possible to win, then we should evaluate our skills if we have the tools to be successful.

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Quote from: Wete on November 18, 2018, 09:53:15 AM

Quote from: drlukacs on November 16, 2018, 07:26:17 PM

Quote from: Wete on November 16, 2018, 10:43:04 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on November 14, 2018, 10:18:46 AM

Quote from: swogerino on September 16, 2018, 12:55:26 PM

Now I am not an expert in gambling but this day was a really eye opener for me, you can never win in gambling. Imagine when you can't win in lotto , soccer betting or whatever you call it, you don't have a chance in slots.

I'm not an expert in gambling too but saying that you can never win in gambling is just bullshit. Maybe you are just saying this because you can't accept your lost. If winning in gambling is impossible then why are many people still gambling right now??

I disagree with you. You can win in gambling. You just need the right ingredients to win like luck, strategy, discipline, etc.

Gambling is about winning or losing, if you are not ready to lose don't approach gambling. In gambling, I am personally guided only by luck.

To my mind, gambling is something very vague, losing is mainly based on the luck factor like the lottery, the odds are enormous. So be alert and plan if you want to succeed with gambling, you can lose all your possessions such as home, car, family if you invest too much in the gambling.

Don't make gambling a job to fulfill your life and your family. In my opinion there are no successful people from gambling except those who have casino businesses and mafia or soccer bookies. Make gambling as entertainment, not work, manage and limit your money when you are going to gamble.

It is both we can use to have both entertainment and earning, we can live a good life with this, for those who have no other way to earn money they can use gambling and choose any of their favorite game then play and earn money, I am sure if a person will play in a skillful way it will ne enough for them to spend a good life with certain amount of money to reach all the needs of life.

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Quote from: dead_m92 on November 18, 2018, 06:10:20 PM

That is exactly what i was going to say, lotto is a very good way to not have too many loses.

Anyway, i preffer not to gamble wheen you do not have a good sum of money, because you can risk it all, and end up losing it all too.

But yes, you can win sometimes

Quote from: pixie85 on September 16, 2018, 03:43:31 PM

Lotto gives you much lower chance of winning than simple games like dice or roulette. I think that you can win in gambling just not in the long run. The more you play the more you pay the casino but sometimes you do win. When you lose it makes you biased against gambling the same way that winning makes you biased towards it.

You can also have many losses in lotto if you're betting everyday. Others are betting continously for how many years and yet didn't have a single luck. If you add it all, still a lot of money. The only way you could have few losses in gambling is to minimize your playing time and your bankroll.

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