Topic: You guys need to fix the ban evasion issue before making another forum. - page 2. (Read 3108 times)

Eh. Speak for yourself. It's gotten a lot of interest so far of 1,568 in just a couple of weeks in getting the word out to potential future users. Of course he'll need more than a little over a thousand to make a full strong community but I'd tell you that is a huge following for a forum that isn't out yet in my humble opinion.

Paper takes a lot of time, it's inconvenient. I doubt his business will get a lot of business while he does that.

It is most certainly possible to hack a strong antivirus software. And those software cannot protect against vulnerabilities in software that do not require malware. If he doesn't sufficiently protect himself from attacks like buffer overflows (e.g. heartbleed), sql injection, etc, the best antivirus software will do absolutely nothing. In fact, having antivirus on a server is completely pointless. There is no good reason to have an antivirus on a server since a server should never be running any binary file except for the server software and its dependencies. Nothing else should ever be run, nor can anything else be run if the server owner isn't interacting with server except for site updates. And those should not be messing with the software anyways.

Luckily he's thought ahead on that. I asked him about this and he mentioned until he gets enough money to fund electronic security, he takes paper documents mailed to his business. Paper happily cannot be hacked. When he gets that money, it's impossible to hack a strong antivirus malware and all around anti malicious adware software.

Is his security better than Target's, Adobe's, OPM, etc, security? Are you saying that this one guy is smarter than all of the security personnel that work at big corporations who have had huge hacks recently which compromised hundreds of thousands of SSN's, credit card numbers, birthdates, addresses, even fingerprints. If he is so good at security, is he famous for being a super good security person? Does he work for some huge company that values it security and has never been hacked?

Basically, I highly doubt that that forum will be secure enough to keep all of that sensitive and private information secure from hackers. It will be a really easy target for hackers to get some easy SSNs and Credit Card numbers to steal.

Ban evasion policy must not be allowed in this forum. If allowed, it'll help scammers get away with scamming one more time. I think they should be IP banned also so that they cannot make alt accounts. theymos must have to be strict here.

Also @The Pharmacist, its not like the founder of Technacoin would allow the government to steal your hard earnings on the new forum he's making. He just requires some small information to keep tabs on users to prevent malicious activity. He won't share your information to the public. It's for his eyes only. 100% confidentiality assured. It was his idea and I work for him so I gotta stick with him. With the new forum, he isn't even looking for users to pay to use it unless they want special features include.

You're trolling and ignoring the comments that easily destroy your stupid arguments (yes, they're stupid). Access to such a huge amount of real life, personal information is catastrophic especially in the world of Bitcoin.

Yes.

If I were a hacker I would be very excited about that forum.

No. Definitely not trolling. I use to think just like you but now I'm seeing establishment does indeed know best.


But let's be honest: Why don't you want people to sign up to a site that deals with money with legal information...? You want scammers to continue on and on? You want scammers to be anonymous forever and hide behind a wall? SS is the only way to really stop it. If you really want Bitcoin to succeed one day and be given mass adoption, the first thing we're gonna have to do is come forward and prove we're good people and that we have nothing to hide. Every single day I watch the price drop and consistently see accusation after accusation about Bitcoin's negative image. A news team even went so far as to say Bitcoin was behind the Paris attacks. Criminals hide. Good people do not.

You have got to be trolling us.  If you truly think like this then you should go work for the government.  Better yet, don't.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention; will be avoiding the site on principle.

SS is to prevent money laundering. We're just trying to protect people from scammers and ban evaders. We want to be 100% professional and if you hide your legal name, you're probably trying to hide something.


Here on BitcoinTalk, I don't attempt to use it to make real money these days so I have every right to stay anonymous but the ones that are trying to make some significant cash here and there should probably be upfront about who they are. If you're a good person, we can be sure you have nothing to hide. I once use to think anonymity was good but now I'm thinking there's no point to it unless you're trying to hide something negative about you. Doxxing is allowed here, so we might as well just doxx everyone.

All I can say is, good luck creating a forum on an anonymous currency where you need more information than Paypal in order to create an account. Lauda pretty much says everything else I could want to.

There's a site I won't be visiting.   Good deal for the both of us.

That is a stupid move at best. Just wait until someone hacks it, and they will pretty quickly judging by the intelligence of the people who are making(going to run) the forum.

Also everyone: Technacoin is making sure their upcoming Bitcoin forum has members signing up with legal names, SSN and credit card info so you can be sure that our forum will be much more professional.

The forum doesn't know that what you input is real, and there would be no authority for making people put in the correct name. What would happen if I put in the name John Doe? It's of course not my real name, though how would the forum know? Also, take a look at services such as fakena.me. What would stop people using services such as those to generate a fake name, details and SSN? Also, a lot of people don't own a credit card. Until very recently I didn't even own a bank account, and I have no intentions to get a credit card any time soon. Would that make me invalid and unavailable for registering to this site?

To continue with this bit, as I'm sure a lot of people here know, the forum's security isn't perfect. There have been several hacks which have resulted in accounts being compromised and information being stolen. Could you imagine if this happened with people's actual, private information?

I have nothing to hide whatsoever. That doesn't mean that I want to give out my personal information to everyone. I value my privacy, which is part of the reason I use VPNs and Bitcoin so much.

As I'm sure has already been said, ban evasion isn't ever going to stop. No matter what we put in the way to try and stop it, people will find a way around. That's human nature. The best we can do is just flag alts when we see them and continue on with the regular.

I personally somewhat favored the ideas but if you don't like them then here's more: Signing up with full legal names, SSN and credit card information.

1. It'll stop the ban evasions since we are all born with only one legal name.

2. People who doxx each other can save time from doxxing people if the moderators have all the documents on a user they need.

3. It'll stop scammers if we know their first and last legal names to confidently put them behind bars

Everyone says Bitcoin is not anonymous. Let's make it 100% transparent then if you all really have nothing to hide.

But these are pretty much the only methods, mostly the third one, that are used to determine alts. If you can think of anything better go for it.

This also illustrates how you can't possibly prevent people from evading bans, there simply aren't any truly effective methods of determining alts.

BTW the third method checks to see if two addresses posted by to different accounts were used in the sand transaction thus mostly proving that they are the same person since usually only the only time two addresses a can sign a transaction is if the same person owns both private keys. The way around this is to use coin join transactions.

None of these methods are even remotely good at determining potential ban evasion in process.

1. IP bans are blast from the past, IPs are expendable and you can have unlimited number of them.
2. Method number 2 offers not enough proof and it is not definitive - it is pure speculation, furthermore I don't believe that we can have bot/script doing this.
3. Potentially the best out of these 3. But still not ideal and could be abused, can backfire and it is just be not accurate to the point you could ban people after comparing addresses.

There's a new forum for BitcoinTalk coming out I think with a new url I guess but if it's going to be exactly the same, you might as well not even make it if it's just going to have a "slightly better appearance".