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legendary
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February 26, 2022, 01:04:58 PM
#37
I don't think Know Your Customer (KYC) will be effective in safeguarding children's rights, in fact for the safety of our children we should prevent them from surfing the internet until they reach adulthood. we should not allow children to have access to games and other entertaining activities that would make them more vulnerable to gambling in a long run.!!

Children are not only threatened by gambling addiction, but they can collide with other things that will affect them and make them commit the worst mistakes at the beginning of their career, so it is better to isolate children away from the Internet for their safety!!
hero member
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February 26, 2022, 12:59:43 PM
#36
I read every Internet gambling had requirements that must be over 18 years. if a child is under that age, how did the website owner know that child was enough to age?. Because I was explored every Internet gambling here that almost didn't require uploading an ID card. A child could be lying by clicking correct sign under the register box.
No way to find out unless that casino asks for kyc. That's the only way of knowing that their gambler is a minor and shouldn't be registered on their casino. And it is possible also through admitting maybe on the chat and contacting the casino personally and would admit and ask to still allow them to gamble. Then after that, the casino has already the idea of their age. Brilliant isn't it?  Grin
But for casinos that don't ask for kyc until your activity is painted with some suspicions then there's really no other way.
legendary
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February 26, 2022, 12:39:21 PM
#35
I read every Internet gambling had requirements that must be over 18 years. if a child is under that age, how did the website owner know that child was enough to age?. Because I was explored every Internet gambling here that almost didn't require uploading an ID card. A child could be lying by clicking correct sign under the register box.
Lets just accept that reality on which there's no way that it could really be stopped nor blocked those minor aged kid that would really tend to play on a site because it couldn't really be known
whether someone who do registers does have that right or above on recommended number.

Even on fiat based casinos which does have KYC doesn't ensure also about this because there were kids who do make use of their parents ID and input those informations but
it is really more rampant here on crypto on which it doesn't really ask out at all.

It's no longer hard for those kids to fake their identities and use their parents' IDs internet got a full tutorial on how they can
easily fake those documents if it's needed. Both crypto and fiat based casinos require 18 years old and above to use their platforms
but because we are in the internet era, it's not hard for someone to register and play, either using fake information or use their relatives
ID's to make sure that they can stay and enjoy playing/gambling.
hero member
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February 26, 2022, 12:28:11 PM
#34
I read every Internet gambling had requirements that must be over 18 years. if a child is under that age, how did the website owner know that child was enough to age?. Because I was explored every Internet gambling here that almost didn't require uploading an ID card. A child could be lying by clicking correct sign under the register box.
Lets just accept that reality on which there's no way that it could really be stopped nor blocked those minor aged kid that would really tend to play on a site because it couldn't really be known
whether someone who do registers does have that right or above on recommended number.

Even on fiat based casinos which does have KYC doesn't ensure also about this because there were kids who do make use of their parents ID and input those informations but
it is really more rampant here on crypto on which it doesn't really ask out at all.
hero member
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February 26, 2022, 12:28:06 PM
#33
I read every Internet gambling had requirements that must be over 18 years. if a child is under that age, how did the website owner know that child was enough to age?. Because I was explored every Internet gambling here that almost didn't require uploading an ID card. A child could be lying by clicking correct sign under the register box.
As much as this sounds like the responsibility of the casino, i dont think they are! Take for example any crypto casino, to play from there you need funds and to get these funds its most likely that some fiat was used to get these coins which in most cases do ask for some form of identification to process such a transaction but overall this is all suppose to be anonymous gambling just like crypto rode on this slogan.
sr. member
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February 26, 2022, 12:22:08 PM
#32
It is already emphasized that there’s no way a website owner could determine an underage player on their system, no until KYC is done. And it is not surprised that many parents, who are supposed to be guardians responsible to direct children away from gambling, have failed to do so. I think that it cannot be pressed on which side is more liable for such, but collaborative ways to prevent and detect it must be focused more. Considering that the generation today is very adventurous, determined and revolves life on the internet, this can’t be stop just like that.
legendary
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February 26, 2022, 12:19:58 PM
#31
A child could be lying by clicking correct sign under the register box.
That's for sure, except for gambling sites that use the original ID KYC feature during registration.

Most gambling sites do not implement KYC, in this case what is very important is the role of parents in controlling cellphones or laptops for their children, once in a while parents have to check every child's activity in operating their cellphones and laptops, whether there is an online gambling site or not, that's important.
sr. member
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February 26, 2022, 12:18:49 PM
#30
I read every Internet gambling had requirements that must be over 18 years. if a child is under that age, how did the website owner know that child was enough to age?. Because I was explored every Internet gambling here that almost didn't require uploading an ID card. A child could be lying by clicking correct sign under the register box.
mandatory KYC is enforced to prevent those who are 'under age' from playing gambling and destroying their learning concentration, but many gamblers reject KYC rules, so for now there is nothing that can really cut off those who play 'underage' gambling.
legendary
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February 26, 2022, 12:17:38 PM
#29
I read every Internet gambling had requirements that must be over 18 years. if a child is under that age, how did the website owner know that child was enough to age?. Because I was explored every Internet gambling here that almost didn't require uploading an ID card. A child could be lying by clicking correct sign under the register box.

Theoretically, you do have to be "checked" before you can gamble but even a KYC procedure also known as "know your customer" can be falsified. Its quite easy to use someone elses ID or even photoshop an ID. Just like internet pornography, there is nothing stopping kids from gambling, from a realistic point of view.

Although that being said, I do support higher restrictions whenever possible. Kids should not be allowed to gamble or drink or anything that would harm their brains circuitry while their brains are still developing.

Question is how do you reinforce that?
full member
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February 26, 2022, 12:07:27 PM
#28

The website owner won't know until they ask KTC to verify and sometimes, it's going to be too late when the casino asks KYC. For he may not be able to withdraw his funds anymore. Website owners will ask KYC when there is an activity they suspect or withdrawing huge funds from the casino and they will ask KYC. If the kid just gambles small amount I guess that's safe but of course its against moral.

Part of the reason to make the age limit also is that the casino has done a responsibility for itself and for the community or society and now it is the responsibility of the parent to make sure that there kids don't start involving into what they should not at the age. Part of the restrictions is for the parent to be careful about their kids and that they know the site has restriction for that age. I think if a kid trying to cheat, the casino can punish by banning if they can find out of the cheating.

Right, they have this responsibility but who does monitor this? I think there must be special actions to execute the rules implemented by the concrete casino and I understand that it may has another disadvantage for users but child rights are priority here.

The responsibility is what they spell out and pushed to parents, counselors and guidance to monitor and watch over what is in their care (The Children). The sites won't do everything, they do the provide of games to play for winning and catching some fun. They only stop underage through KYC.
legendary
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February 26, 2022, 12:06:12 PM
#27
I read every Internet gambling had requirements that must be over 18 years. if a child is under that age, how did the website owner know that child was enough to age?. Because I was explored every Internet gambling here that almost didn't require uploading an ID card. A child could be lying by clicking correct sign under the register box.
Its just a Caution board sign but its your responsibility to obey or not and almost 99.999% people won't respect it and always click I am over 18. Probably they will have issues later of if the site asks then to comply KYC and mentally they're not ready to face financial loss as well.
Well said, majority of the users don't obey the terms to get into gambling. They just agree even if they aren't 18 years old. The issue mostly arises when the user finds difficulty in withdrawal of funds. As we've got KYC free gambling platforms it is quite normal to see underaged people getting into gambling. As said underaged people were also unable to accept loss and most people used to end their lives.
sr. member
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February 26, 2022, 11:49:42 AM
#26
I read every Internet gambling had requirements that must be over 18 years. if a child is under that age, how did the website owner know that child was enough to age?. Because I was explored every Internet gambling here that almost didn't require uploading an ID card. A child could be lying by clicking correct sign under the register box.
Its just a Caution board sign but its your responsibility to obey or not and almost 99.999% people won't respect it and always click I am over 18. Probably they will have issues later of if the site asks then to comply KYC and mentally they're not ready to face financial loss as well.
hero member
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February 26, 2022, 10:52:45 AM
#25
I read every Internet gambling had requirements that must be over 18 years. if a child is under that age, how did the website owner know that child was enough to age?. Because I was explored every Internet gambling here that almost didn't require uploading an ID card. A child could be lying by clicking correct sign under the register box.

Online casinos usually require the minimum age of 18 years, what is the same in most countries to enter physical casinos. When entering a physical casino you have to show your ID. For online casinos such verifications come at the withdrawal process. A minor could potential start gambling at an online casino, but his winnings would be frozen if he tries to withdraw them. Gambling alone as a minor is dangerous and can lead to gambling addiction down the round. There should be some form of oversight from the parents for what the kids are doing online. And if you are 17 and can't wait for your 18th birthday, maybe just ask your dad to gamble together a bit. He could even teach you something.
copper member
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February 26, 2022, 10:51:33 AM
#24
I read every Internet gambling had requirements that must be over 18 years. if a child is under that age, how did the website owner know that child was enough to age?. Because I was explored every Internet gambling here that almost didn't require uploading an ID card. A child could be lying by clicking correct sign under the register box.
There is no way to know until the user goes through KYC. Some casinos require you to pass KYC before you can start playing. Some don't until later (read them terms of service!). So yeah, they can start gambling and no one will know. Even if they do have to go through KYC, they will take someone else's help to verify if they have won big. Video games says that they should be above certain age to play that game, but do they verify? Same goes for porn. They don't.
hero member
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February 26, 2022, 10:35:43 AM
#23
Just like other social media platforms, children could lie and create accounts freely since it isn't asking for KYC. Lots of gambling sites these days aren't asking for KYC so even kids could create their accounts and gamble. As for me, the gambling site isn't accountable for it anymore, it is our responsibility as parents to tell and explain to our kids that gambling isn't for them. We should enlighten them about its risks as early as possible.
They can ask for KYC but if they will not require documents to verify if the information is correct, then it's easy for the gamblers to lie about their real age. We are in the internet era, anything is possible on the internet and kids nowadays are very smart, so they can explore all they want, and without the guidance of their parents, they might be able to get into gambling earlier than the right time.
full member
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February 26, 2022, 10:32:07 AM
#22
Just like other social media platforms, children could lie and create accounts freely since it isn't asking for KYC. Lots of gambling sites these days aren't asking for KYC so even kids could create their accounts and gamble. As for me, the gambling site isn't accountable for it anymore, it is our responsibility as parents to tell and explain to our kids that gambling isn't for them. We should enlighten them about its risks as early as possible.
hero member
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February 26, 2022, 10:25:48 AM
#21
If KYC is not required, then the age requirement will not be emphasized too much even though it is labeled +18. Even on a less stringent KYC process, minors can send their parent's ID just to play.
It is more of a disclaimer of responsibility to the customer regarding age-related risks. Each country also has a player age limit that varies according to game criteria, so an age label was added to make it easier to adapt and generalize the requirements globally.
hero member
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February 26, 2022, 10:18:44 AM
#20
I read every Internet gambling had requirements that must be over 18 years. if a child is under that age, how did the website owner know that child was enough to age?. Because I was explored every Internet gambling here that almost didn't require uploading an ID card. A child could be lying by clicking correct sign under the register box.
Gambling platforms do not have mandatory KYC requirements, so any account detail information is not filtered by age restrictions. But the age limit regulation has been required for 18+ in TOS if users violate TOS then they are willing to risk their account will be frozen.

Some of the factors that cause the age under 18+ to engage in gambling:
1. The influence of the surrounding environment that is vulnerable to traditional gambling games, he slowly learns to be actively involved in gambling.
2. The influence of internet access is not controlled by parents until they are trapped in gambling access to betting with real money.
member
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February 26, 2022, 10:16:11 AM
#19

The website owner won't know until they ask KTC to verify and sometimes, it's going to be too late when the casino asks KYC. For he may not be able to withdraw his funds anymore. Website owners will ask KYC when there is an activity they suspect or withdrawing huge funds from the casino and they will ask KYC. If the kid just gambles small amount I guess that's safe but of course its against moral.

Part of the reason to make the age limit also is that the casino has done a responsibility for itself and for the community or society and now it is the responsibility of the parent to make sure that there kids don't start involving into what they should not at the age. Part of the restrictions is for the parent to be careful about their kids and that they know the site has restriction for that age. I think if a kid trying to cheat, the casino can punish by banning if they can find out of the cheating.

Right, they have this responsibility but who does monitor this? I think there must be special actions to execute the rules implemented by the concrete casino and I understand that it may has another disadvantage for users but child rights are priority here.
full member
Activity: 1736
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February 26, 2022, 09:24:48 AM
#18

The website owner won't know until they ask KTC to verify and sometimes, it's going to be too late when the casino asks KYC. For he may not be able to withdraw his funds anymore. Website owners will ask KYC when there is an activity they suspect or withdrawing huge funds from the casino and they will ask KYC. If the kid just gambles small amount I guess that's safe but of course its against moral.

Part of the reason to make the age limit also is that the casino has done a responsibility for itself and for the community or society and now it is the responsibility of the parent to make sure that there kids don't start involving into what they should not at the age. Part of the restrictions is for the parent to be careful about their kids and that they know the site has restriction for that age. I think if a kid trying to cheat, the casino can punish by banning if they can find out of the cheating.
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