Topic: You’ll Someday Manufacture Anything You Want and Governments Will Not Stop You (Read 333 times)

3D printing has the potential to change the whole world, I really think that it is going to have the power to decentralize the industry similar to what bitcoin is doing with banking and the power to print currency, it is very likely that we are going to see once again the artisan as a profession, this is already happening with people selling their products created with 3D printing on the web.

However, the technology is still very new, we can produce basic stuff but producing complex stuff like electronics will require a jump in the technology and producing medicines will be very difficult as well, but the risks are high as well, if we could produce medicines in our homes then it is entirely possible a person could produce poisons, gunpowder or even viruses.

No, you can do whatever you wish if you are able to do it and governments cannot stop you from doing it till they know about it, so it is limited.

"3D printers are low-cost."

Since when?

Even if you can afford a printer, the conductive filaments/inks are super expensive. And, it takes hours to design and print even a single coffee mug. Advancements in technology will speed up the process and even automate the designing phase. In about 20 years, the purchasing power required to acquire the best 3D printer available in the market will be astronomical because fiat currency is probably going to suffer inflation like anything.

The smart dudes who have invested in cryptocurrency will have access to everything described in the article- good and bad. However, there are research centers that produce custom materials and the inks required to 3D DIY print.

If the government can form coalitions with these organizations, they can make use of anti counterfeiting technology to keep everything in control again- currency, commodities, products etc.

Heavily adjustments alone won't bring it to 20 times below the US rate.
Greece, for example, has a rate of 0.75, and I doubt Greece can be seen as a perfect heaven where everybody is happy and all necessities are fulfilled with a clap.

Besides, you seem to have quite the wrong view about how life is in Japan.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/japan-has-some-of-the-longest-working-hours-in-the-world-its-trying-to-change.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kar%C5%8Dshi

Again, Japan is one of the most expensive countries in the world, even taking into account their wages, you can't really afford that much in the big cities with the average wage.

I just do not believe in the data for such things. Can anybody tell me what index numbers do they use to calculate the data? There is not perfect index to cumulate and then calculate the data for the specific subject. The number of victims and killed in Afghanistan was far more than what they wrote in the data. The ground realities are always different and we have always been misguided by the people at the top for their own interest.

If people could play video games all day and afford all of life's basic necessities, would they engage in violence/crime? The goal here would be to make energy, manufacturing, living space and other elements of modern day society affordable and plentiful enough to decrease crime and poverty. If people have more spare time to enjoy life and spend time with their family that could decrease negative circumstances. If someone had access to their own miniature nuclear reactor and never had to pay electricity bills think about how their quality of life might increase.

Japan's homicide rate is heavily adjusted. There are cases where a body is found with cigarette burns and signs of torture where police will classify the cause of death as "suicide" if they feel they are unlikely to solve the case or find those responsible.


I think that there is gross oversimplification as to where criminals come from. Many criminals would choose another path in life, if they had an alternative. Most do not want to spend their time pointing guns at people and robbing them. Its not very profitable, its not a good way to earn a living. The sad truth is, poor economic conditions, bad political policies and irresponsible fiscal management by the state create a lot more criminals and violence than guns do. Not because people are evil but rather because when people can't afford to life a decent life with what their job pays them, they have no alternatives but crime or extremism to support themselves.

If people are looking at the rise of crime and violence in society, it is closely linked to poor economic conditions, bad job markets. And those are linked to bad decisions made by those in power. The idea here is to empower the individual and enable them to have a decent life without relying on crime to feed themselves or their families. Most do not want to be criminals, they do not want to be violent. Often the main reason they resort to criminal life are they have no other options.


The idea isn't to break the power of political institutions. Its to reduce the degree to which people rely on things like corporations and governments. The more independent people are the less they rely upon corporations for jobs or governments for social programs. The implications of that paradigm shift could benefit society.

I will be in support of such system if the major aim is to break the power of political institutions and centralized financial system. However, criminals are going to utilize such system to commit crimes against humanity.  I don't think that we are mature enough for us to render governments impotence .

Why did you jump to drugs and farmaceuticals and not continue with the nuclear option?
What if everybody could build his own nuclear reactor in the basement.
Or even better, his own personal nuclear bomb?

To be honest I don't see the dual use in this situation. What's the good part in everybody having his Fat Man in the garage?


Hmm...
Japan, homicide rate 0.28 , beat that!!!!!

it is like creating your own coin, this is one way of ruining the market status, ICO for short, we can see today that a lot of ICO are coming out and popping out of the blue, trying to level the price gap versus bitcoin. all of these are a result of the desperation to level with the current status of its competitors, still applies the rule of economics, the law of supply and demand.

Knowledge can be utilized for good or evil. It is dual use technology. An example of this is nuclear power which can be used to build bombs or nuclear reactors which power thousands of homes. If people are able to produce their own pharmaceutical drugs which treat illness and disease, they also will have the power to produce narcotics, barbiturates, amphetamines. This dual use paradigm exists anywhere knowledge, science and technology are to be found.

Already in the world we have terrible people, criminals and terrorists who profit from drug production. Will circumstances become worse if that power is taken from them and people gain the ability to cut criminals and terrorists out of the drug supply chain? Likewise, people producing guns doesn't concern me. There are many armed women who protect themselves and their families from criminals attempting to break into their homes. Things like guns can be used for positive purposes & can be used to prevent crime.

Some nations with the highest percentages of gun ownership also have lowest statistics for gun issues. Blaming *everything* on guns and drugs, that could represent a gross oversimplification of economic and social circumstances which lead to things like drug abuse and gun violence. There isn't necessarily a *silver bullet* one click solution to solving problems faced by humanity. Following the media narrative does more harm than good imo as the media's stance acts as a crutch which exists to prevent people from thinking about things.

with our own work we will feel more free, we can produce anything as long as it does not violate the law and the government can not do anything to stop it, they have to support every thing that if useful for its people, and we are free to do anything we want

Damn… dude, you’re so confused and don’t even know what you’re saying. How do you think that your idea is good one? To me it makes no single sense. Tell me how you would like it when everyone start producing their own guns and drugs? Don’t you know that will cause people to be manufacturing fake drugs at home selling to others? As for guns, you think is a good idea if we are all to be allowed to be walking around with guns? ☹️Just think of what you have just said.

And by the way, Bitcoin does not give you freedom, the government is still in complete control. Seriously, people like you are the reasons why we need leaders. If everyone is allowed to do as they wish, I swear most of us would all be dead by now.

As @jseverson said it above
Now you can't.
Printing machines still need materials to do that and there are things that require such conditions that you won't be able to do it in your garage.
You can't print a gold ring without gold and you won't be able to create bullets without gunpowder.


It will be a semi-decentralization.
As you said it, you will need materials to print it.

So, instead of going to Walmart to buy a baseball bat for your kid you're going to Walmart to buy the materials to print a baseball bat for your kid.  . And for this, you're going to also have to buy a printer...


I just hope the 3d printing business won't have a Bitmain leading it that would insert some code in your printer and in the morning you wake up with an indoraptor in your basement

yes you are right, someday I have to be able to produce anything that can be developed and I will make the government will not be able to stop what I produce, not forever the government can rule.

One thing that stands out about 3d printing are those machines that print DNA sequences and enable hobbyist biohackers.


I think I saw an episode of HBOs Vice where they investigated DIY drug makers(here's a summary):


It brought up interesting points about how synthetic DIY drug makers operating out of their garage can make illegal drugs that are technically legal simply by changing the chemical structure to something that isn't explicitly banned.

There might be some type of synthetic drug revolution occurring although 3d printers aren't involved afaik.

Basically anyone can manufacture and create whatever it is that their imaginations take them to, but in order to distribute them legally you need to have trademarks and copyrights for it for someone to not go and steal it and monetize your own creation. You also need to register your business to the government in order to pay whatever taxes you might incur on your business venture. Also, do remember that if your creation has the potential to inflict harm on other citizens, or cause some form of public outcry and/or whatnot, the government would still try to seize your creation and detain you for what it's worth.

Each person has their own concepts about the dangers of products. I can produce a machine that can kill a man but can save someone's life. You can make food supplements that make food taste better but after a while will kill a lot of people. By what criteria does the government determine the degree of danger of production?