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Quote from: CageMabok on January 18, 2024, 11:44:11 AM

Quote from: oktana on January 15, 2024, 07:48:24 PM

In as much as I understand what you are saying, everyone doesn’t think the same, so we have people doing different approaches. DCA is a good option but some people would rather just buy the quantity they want at once. I see it as that one should not place too much expectation on Bitcoin especially when it’s short term, doesn’t matter if you DCA or buy at once. If Bitcoin can hit $70k and drop, then it can do it again and even better. Of course you’ll be sad you watch the value drop but if you’re patient (long term), it’ll favour you again.

Because everyone has different thoughts and different ways of buying, of course their patience is also very different because there are also people who like short-term profits, although not that much. Likewise with people who like big profits in the long term after buying Bitcoin using any method, because the main goal is to make a profit. But apart from that, it is also done based on their own wishes before everyone gets a profit in a certain period through Bitcoin.

Even if you do have that patience but if you do able to encounter such condition or situation then you cant really be able to avoid yourself on not to have those kind of reaction on which you would really be that definitely be having those kind of disappointment on missing out on snipping instant or easy profits on that particular time if you do able to have that timing but it ended up on missing out
on doing such thing just because you have found yourself do able to sleep and miss out those opportunity on which this isnt something that we can really be able to see on this market
but since we are talking about What if's then it would be a such waste opportunity or chance for you to make profits in a short period of time.
If you are a true holder then you wont really be caring at all but it is really just that hard to resist on that kind of disappointment on the thing you have missed.

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Quote from: oktana on January 15, 2024, 07:48:24 PM

In as much as I understand what you are saying, everyone doesn’t think the same, so we have people doing different approaches. DCA is a good option but some people would rather just buy the quantity they want at once. I see it as that one should not place too much expectation on Bitcoin especially when it’s short term, doesn’t matter if you DCA or buy at once. If Bitcoin can hit $70k and drop, then it can do it again and even better. Of course you’ll be sad you watch the value drop but if you’re patient (long term), it’ll favour you again.

Because everyone has different thoughts and different ways of buying, of course their patience is also very different because there are also people who like short-term profits, although not that much. Likewise with people who like big profits in the long term after buying Bitcoin using any method, because the main goal is to make a profit. But apart from that, it is also done based on their own wishes before everyone gets a profit in a certain period through Bitcoin.

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Quote from: Poker Player on December 25, 2023, 12:55:31 AM

If you use that system, OP, you haven't understood anything.

Bitcoin investing is not a matter of sentiment, and to buy Bitcoin purely for profit by trying to time the market is generally a mistake.

It is much better a gradual accumulation plan with DCA in which you raise partial sales when the price reaches milestones, as it can be at $70K, at $100K, at $150K...

And it is even better to include it in a wealth building plan, because if you sell all the Bitcoin you have when the price reaches a certain figure something tells me that you are playing with money that you need and then you are not doing things right.

In as much as I understand what you are saying, everyone doesn’t think the same, so we have people doing different approaches. DCA is a good option but some people would rather just buy the quantity they want at once. I see it as that one should not place too much expectation on Bitcoin especially when it’s short term, doesn’t matter if you DCA or buy at once. If Bitcoin can hit $70k and drop, then it can do it again and even better. Of course you’ll be sad you watch the value drop but if you’re patient (long term), it’ll favour you again.

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Quote from: pinggoki on January 10, 2024, 03:20:34 AM

Quote from: FanEagle on January 03, 2024, 12:31:24 PM

One thing to remember is that you are not going to get what you wish or hope all that easily, and sometimes not even what you assume, because bitcoin is something volatile and at times you will be wrong, I am not even saying you might be, I am saying you WILL be wrong at times. This is why it is inevitable that you are going to get caught off guard sometimes and your expectations should not be precise, in fact your expectations from bitcoin should be expecting it to do the weird thing and shock you.

I hope that people could see that, and we could get to a point where we could see it change and be more stable but it will not be, so we need to be just calming down whenever there is something crazy that happens there in the end.

That's why you should learn in the first place to lower your expectations or don't go much higher than it should because you'll only end up getting disappointed. Bitcoin is a volatile market and will continue to be until the foreseeable future so always keep in mind that when things happen to the market, you should have a back up or a measure on what to do on that situation, it's like being prepared for a disaster, you're less likely to die if you're prepared.

Very often people cannot separate their predictions from their wishes and desires, so when you ask an investor what do they think the price of bitcoin will do during the next months? They will not really answer you with a prediction based on what they see on the charts, they will simply tell you what they want to see the market doing as that is what it will benefit them the most, but the markets do not really answer to our desires, and if anything a great deal of the time they move against them.

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Quote from: erep on January 08, 2024, 11:39:49 AM

Quote from: AakZaki on January 05, 2024, 02:21:53 PM

Big losses only occur if someone has already started selling their holdings for fiat, they are too scared to wait for what is cooking. continuing to hold it until the time limit or price limit that has been set is the best. so it takes trust to be able to achieve it.

Several factors can influence diamond hands to hold bitcoin until it reaches the new ATH target, the main factor being the influence of external information from media and social media, so it is very important that bitcoin holders must avoid negative information that will change decisions for long-term holders.

Social media has a very high influence on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies at large, it is where the best lies, truths and rumours can be easily propagated and reach the highest number of audiences and infest people like a virus. This always causes volatility/issues in the market depending on the case we are talking about just like what we are facing today, and that is why we should be careful and be at alert as with any coins anything can happen. But for now, I think it is all positive for Bitcoin and social media wants that positivity for it as well. Though, the market will always have the say and act as it wants to, yet social media have this great influence since it is a community that we should never take for granted. But I will never because of what I read on the social media act in the market, I study my chart well, I do not panic, and no matter what is happening around or on social media, my trading chart has the final say in my decision.

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Quote from: FanEagle on January 03, 2024, 12:31:24 PM

One thing to remember is that you are not going to get what you wish or hope all that easily, and sometimes not even what you assume, because bitcoin is something volatile and at times you will be wrong, I am not even saying you might be, I am saying you WILL be wrong at times. This is why it is inevitable that you are going to get caught off guard sometimes and your expectations should not be precise, in fact your expectations from bitcoin should be expecting it to do the weird thing and shock you.

I hope that people could see that, and we could get to a point where we could see it change and be more stable but it will not be, so we need to be just calming down whenever there is something crazy that happens there in the end.

That's why you should learn in the first place to lower your expectations or don't go much higher than it should because you'll only end up getting disappointed. Bitcoin is a volatile market and will continue to be until the foreseeable future so always keep in mind that when things happen to the market, you should have a back up or a measure on what to do on that situation, it's like being prepared for a disaster, you're less likely to die if you're prepared.

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Bitcoin price movements are very difficult to predict, hoping to gain more profits than expected from Bitcoin investment strategies in the short term is very difficult to achieve. It is important to understand that the Bitcoin market is very volatile and unpredictable, the price of Bitcoin can fluctuate rapidly, it will be a challenge for any trader to predict or wait for a big bubble to burst.
So it is natural that there are investors or traders who can become rich overnight because of positive and negative sentiment that can move prices. Missing a golden opportunity is bad luck, but who can guess when that opportunity will come.

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Quote from: erep on January 08, 2024, 11:39:49 AM

Several factors can influence diamond hands to hold bitcoin until it reaches the new ATH target, the main factor being the influence of external information from media and social media, so it is very important that bitcoin holders must avoid negative information that will change decisions for long-term holders.

But holders have other reasons for converting bitcoin to fiat, so we should not cast a negative light on bitcoin holders without knowing the details of their reasons for converting to fiat, at least if they make a profit from trading bitcoin.

Conversion is only done when they make a profit or want to keep the value of their assets safe in Fiat. Indeed, it is not permissible to give a negative view to those who convert to fiat. this is just an assumption. I also convert some assets to fiat just for my needs, I don't convert everything. Sometimes taking a little advantage is also necessary.

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Quote from: erep on January 08, 2024, 11:39:49 AM

Quote from: AakZaki on January 05, 2024, 02:21:53 PM

Big losses only occur if someone has already started selling their holdings for fiat, they are too scared to wait for what is cooking. continuing to hold it until the time limit or price limit that has been set is the best. so it takes trust to be able to achieve it.

Several factors can influence diamond hands to hold bitcoin until it reaches the new ATH target, the main factor being the influence of external information from media and social media, so it is very important that bitcoin holders must avoid negative information that will change decisions for long-term holders.

But holders have other reasons for converting bitcoin to fiat, so we should not cast a negative light on bitcoin holders without knowing the details of their reasons for converting to fiat, at least if they make a profit from trading bitcoin.

Investors also need to filter out what they read depending on the source of that information, newbies often panic when they read on social media that bitcoin is to go down in price soon, however if you were to look at the post that caused them to sell, you will see that it came from a bot or from someone that is just trying to influence public opinion and affect the price this way, and in that case even if we were to read those posts we need to ignore them as the one making them has no credibility at all.

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Quote from: boty on January 07, 2024, 02:51:51 AM

Quote from: FanEagle on January 03, 2024, 12:31:24 PM

One thing to remember is that you are not going to get what you wish or hope all that easily, and sometimes not even what you assume, because bitcoin is something volatile and at times you will be wrong, I am not even saying you might be, I am saying you WILL be wrong at times. This is why it is inevitable that you are going to get caught off guard sometimes and your expectations should not be precise, in fact your expectations from bitcoin should be expecting it to do the weird thing and shock you.

I hope that people could see that, and we could get to a point where we could see it change and be more stable but it will not be, so we need to be just calming down whenever there is something crazy that happens there in the end.

I agree with what you say, it is very difficult to predict the price of Bitcoin and I have never met anyone who really correctly estimates the price of Bitcoin and we cannot expect too high the price of Bitcoin, if we cannot accept what is happening with market conditions However, if we can be patient with market conditions, of course we will be able to wait for the profits we will get from what we invest.

That is because it is highly volatile but I think this won't be possible if without our actions. It's just that each of us has a different goal. But if let say we will unite, I think we can be able to predict the price of BTC easily. There are still people who can predict it accurately sometimes. It can be a pure guess, or they also include some analysis with it.

A normal prediction has no rules. Any one can expect very high or very low. And maybe some of those who did it does not accept the current market conditions. In investing, it is important to have patience to HODL. For those who don't have this, there is still trading on the side that they can do. Although they may still need a good amount of patience at first to learn and master it Cheesy

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Quote from: AakZaki on January 05, 2024, 02:21:53 PM

Big losses only occur if someone has already started selling their holdings for fiat, they are too scared to wait for what is cooking. continuing to hold it until the time limit or price limit that has been set is the best. so it takes trust to be able to achieve it.

Several factors can influence diamond hands to hold bitcoin until it reaches the new ATH target, the main factor being the influence of external information from media and social media, so it is very important that bitcoin holders must avoid negative information that will change decisions for long-term holders.

But holders have other reasons for converting bitcoin to fiat, so we should not cast a negative light on bitcoin holders without knowing the details of their reasons for converting to fiat, at least if they make a profit from trading bitcoin.

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Quote from: boty on January 07, 2024, 02:51:51 AM

Quote from: FanEagle on January 03, 2024, 12:31:24 PM

One thing to remember is that you are not going to get what you wish or hope all that easily, and sometimes not even what you assume, because bitcoin is something volatile and at times you will be wrong, I am not even saying you might be, I am saying you WILL be wrong at times. This is why it is inevitable that you are going to get caught off guard sometimes and your expectations should not be precise, in fact your expectations from bitcoin should be expecting it to do the weird thing and shock you.

I hope that people could see that, and we could get to a point where we could see it change and be more stable but it will not be, so we need to be just calming down whenever there is something crazy that happens there in the end.

I agree with what you say, it is very difficult to predict the price of Bitcoin and I have never met anyone who really correctly estimates the price of Bitcoin and we cannot expect too high the price of Bitcoin, if we cannot accept what is happening with market conditions However, if we can be patient with market conditions, of course we will be able to wait for the profits we will get from what we invest.

That is all I try to leave off with people, that is all I want people to be aware of, and unfortunately not a lot of people are aware of it. The reality is that if we end up with waiting, we are going to end up with a profit and we should be trying our hardest to be able to do that. I know that there will be moments when it is low, and those times people will have a fear that they will not be able to make that money back, however if we do leave people with something decent, they should be able to actually make some profit, and that matters a lot. I know that it is going to be a tough deal, but it is not going to be easy to handle neither. I believe that we are going to end up with a situation where it is going to be just waiting, that's it.

So if people ignore the market movements and keep waiting, they will be making a ton of money. I do not know how I could install that knowledge into people, they are all feeling super afraid when it goes down, they should not, it's okay, it will go back up.

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Quote from: FanEagle on January 03, 2024, 12:31:24 PM

One thing to remember is that you are not going to get what you wish or hope all that easily, and sometimes not even what you assume, because bitcoin is something volatile and at times you will be wrong, I am not even saying you might be, I am saying you WILL be wrong at times. This is why it is inevitable that you are going to get caught off guard sometimes and your expectations should not be precise, in fact your expectations from bitcoin should be expecting it to do the weird thing and shock you.

I hope that people could see that, and we could get to a point where we could see it change and be more stable but it will not be, so we need to be just calming down whenever there is something crazy that happens there in the end.

I agree with what you say, it is very difficult to predict the price of Bitcoin and I have never met anyone who really correctly estimates the price of Bitcoin and we cannot expect too high the price of Bitcoin, if we cannot accept what is happening with market conditions However, if we can be patient with market conditions, of course we will be able to wait for the profits we will get from what we invest.

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Quote from: tygeade on January 04, 2024, 01:38:05 PM

Many people are like that, and unfortunately there is really nothing that we can do to prevent people from being like that. I get that we are going to try our very best to do something about it, but we are not going to achieve anything at all, there will always be some people who are paper handed, they will see the price dropping and they will end up with a big loss, there is really nothing wrong with that.

I hope that we could get to a point where it should be quite profitable to end up with a good return one way or another, and that doesn't mean that it is going to end up with a huge loss. I hope that we could just keep holding, more and more people should hold, that is by far the best way to make money. I know that it is not going to end up being that easy, there will be a lot of people who are going to end up selling anyway, but if we could just get rid of these sudden drops because people fear, that would all be enough, we do not need anything more than that.

Big losses only occur if someone has already started selling their holdings for fiat, they are too scared to wait for what is cooking. continuing to hold it until the time limit or price limit that has been set is the best. so it takes trust to be able to achieve it.

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Quote from: Poker Player on December 25, 2023, 12:55:31 AM

If you use that system, OP, you haven't understood anything.

Bitcoin investing is not a matter of sentiment, and to buy Bitcoin purely for profit by trying to time the market is generally a mistake.

It is much better a gradual accumulation plan with DCA in which you raise partial sales when the price reaches milestones, as it can be at $70K, at $100K, at $150K...

And it is even better to include it in a wealth building plan, because if you sell all the Bitcoin you have when the price reaches a certain figure something tells me that you are playing with money that you need and then you are not doing things right.

What is misconception. @Poker Player, for a better clarification, the contexts of the thread was specifically for the short term Bitcoin investors who are after making quick profits which their eyes and mindsets has been awoken on the bitcoins markets with an expectation that the Bitcoin values gets to a specific value so they could sell their coins unlike the long-term investors who doesn't find necessities to monitoring the markets value because they are not ready to sell out yet.
Selling of Coins doesn't imply selling the whole of your bitcoins but maybe some fractions of it.

So, the question is... How would you as a short-term Investor feel after much spending a long time monitoring the Bitcoin markets to hit your expected value so that you could sell out and proudly make a valuable profit but at your slightest excuse in monitory the market was when the market hitted even above your expectations but at your notice it fell depreciated even below your holdings.

Hence I think such of the short term Investors would be sentimental against this volatily scenero because they would believe it is a lost opportunity.

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Quote from: crwth on January 01, 2024, 11:24:44 AM

If you are a short-term goal Bitcoin Investor, then you are definitely someone who has paper hands and would sell every time Bitcoin is Green. What you explained in the scenario basically could be the consequence of you being a paper hand and losing that price increase would be painful in terms of the mental pain because of the "should haves" and "could have been" stuff. That should be expected in terms of what type of investor you are, since you are short-term only, you would be dealing with it fast and not accumulating it. It is going to be an up and down ride for sure.

It's a loss if you only invest short term, it won't give you anything when it's too quick to sell and it's not worth it. being paper handed will only lead to losses and constant panic. No need to worry about held assets, Bitcoin will provide quite good profits when held for a long period of time. Especially if you bought when the crash occurred several months ago. profits will be made by those who can hold it well and sell it at the highest price.

Many people are like that, and unfortunately there is really nothing that we can do to prevent people from being like that. I get that we are going to try our very best to do something about it, but we are not going to achieve anything at all, there will always be some people who are paper handed, they will see the price dropping and they will end up with a big loss, there is really nothing wrong with that.

I hope that we could get to a point where it should be quite profitable to end up with a good return one way or another, and that doesn't mean that it is going to end up with a huge loss. I hope that we could just keep holding, more and more people should hold, that is by far the best way to make money. I know that it is not going to end up being that easy, there will be a lot of people who are going to end up selling anyway, but if we could just get rid of these sudden drops because people fear, that would all be enough, we do not need anything more than that.

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Quote from: bestcoins1 on December 30, 2023, 03:57:56 PM

Quote from: itorai on December 30, 2023, 01:02:07 PM

Like the title you made the fantasy does not match expectations. Even so I don't care about it because the reality of life is often not in accordance with what we expect. But I will keep going to adjust my dreams to reality, there must be lessons from every journey and it will be a valuable experience.

Everyone will continue to make adjustments to what they will do or try in their life journey and if what you mean is to feel the price of Bitcoin and also their expectations in the market next year. I think almost everyone will continue to enjoy the journey quite well, because market conditions are still moving quite well so far even though small corrections in Bitcoin prices have sometimes occurred in the last two days. But that's not a sign for everyone to stop hoping for the best in Bitcoin early next year.

Yes I think so, some of them including me will probably remain optimistic in seeing the journey as a good opportunity even though there is a slight correction, right you say it doesn't mean they should stop hoping. But for me, I will continue to adjust my dreams with reality, and I will make it a valuable experience in my life journey..

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Quote from: crwth on January 01, 2024, 11:24:44 AM

If you are a short-term goal Bitcoin Investor, then you are definitely someone who has paper hands and would sell every time Bitcoin is Green. What you explained in the scenario basically could be the consequence of you being a paper hand and losing that price increase would be painful in terms of the mental pain because of the "should haves" and "could have been" stuff. That should be expected in terms of what type of investor you are, since you are short-term only, you would be dealing with it fast and not accumulating it. It is going to be an up and down ride for sure.

It's a loss if you only invest short term, it won't give you anything when it's too quick to sell and it's not worth it. being paper handed will only lead to losses and constant panic. No need to worry about held assets, Bitcoin will provide quite good profits when held for a long period of time. Especially if you bought when the crash occurred several months ago. profits will be made by those who can hold it well and sell it at the highest price.

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Well, things when it comes to the Bitcoin market should not surprise you under any circumstances, because now you have to see how you can try to beat the movements that are made, if we are waiting for the price to reach a value of $100k and if it goes down at about $20k instead of going up it is something that should not surprise us, it is an opportunity because it can be bought cheaper, but that is something that we do not know, so at this point nothing in the market should surprise us, we have to be very well prepared.

If the price of Bitcoin goes down, we don't have to go in for the kill, but rather wait, if there is no money to buy more, then it's a hodl, and try to look for opportunities waiting for the good moves to happen, but the ETF needs to be approved, that other types of things be done, the halving is coming, the probability that bitcoin will rise is very great and things are there to happen, there is no other way, you have to know how to wait, and hope for the best.

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One thing to remember is that you are not going to get what you wish or hope all that easily, and sometimes not even what you assume, because bitcoin is something volatile and at times you will be wrong, I am not even saying you might be, I am saying you WILL be wrong at times. This is why it is inevitable that you are going to get caught off guard sometimes and your expectations should not be precise, in fact your expectations from bitcoin should be expecting it to do the weird thing and shock you.

I hope that people could see that, and we could get to a point where we could see it change and be more stable but it will not be, so we need to be just calming down whenever there is something crazy that happens there in the end.

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