Your parent disinherit you eventhough you have not proven to be chronic gambler

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Quote from: Rabata on November 19, 2023, 01:47:30 AM

Quote from: coin-investor on November 13, 2023, 10:39:29 AM

What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?

If the parents are alive then they can give their property to whomever they want. If it is the case that they did not give anything to anyone before their death then you will get by inheritance. But here's what I realize if a parent find his own child addicted to gambling and if they observe it for a long time and after repeated warnings there is no change in that gambler then they take such a decision to protect their wealth. Here through the court they can give their property to someone else citing his child's addiction, in which case the gambler claims he won't get anything of that property.

The inheritance right that is most entitled to receive is child and it doesn't have to be divided evenly but how the parents want to share it, it just that as parents they have to give justice to their children even though they are gambling addicts.
I understand that the transfer of inheritance rights is done to protect the wealth or assets already owned, but when everything is actually given to someone else it seems unfair, as I said previously better and fair step is to provide an official statement, which is given to legal representatives for their children can change their attitude towards stopping recovery from addiction if they want to have inheritance rights.
However, even though he is gambling addict he is child he is raising, so it would be very inappropriate if the inheritance he should have was given to someone else for nothing.

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Firstly this law of Disinheriting a child by his or her parents on the ground that he or she is chronic gambler with proper scrutiny or investigation does not exist in my country, yes, parents decide whom to will the majority of their property to, or even how to will their property, they do it to suit themselves, if this reason for the act had been proven by the said parents, I think the only option left for such a person is to contest it in court, but doubt if such person will win such a case because, if there is a video record by the parents attached to the will to back it up, it will be just mere waste judiciary time, the thing is, parents can do anything in the favor of whoever they like, that is why advisable to be at peace with them, and activity you engage yourself in don't allow it to control you to the extent of being an addict.

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Quote from: coin-investor on November 13, 2023, 10:39:29 AM

What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?

If the parents are alive then they can give their property to whomever they want. If it is the case that they did not give anything to anyone before their death then you will get by inheritance. But here's what I realize if a parent find his own child addicted to gambling and if they observe it for a long time and after repeated warnings there is no change in that gambler then they take such a decision to protect their wealth. Here through the court they can give their property to someone else citing his child's addiction, in which case the gambler claims he won't get anything of that property.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on November 16, 2023, 05:04:53 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on November 16, 2023, 05:02:18 PM

That law is useless if your parents are really willing to give you the inheritance. It seems like the law was only created to become an excuse for parents who don't want to give their property to their children. But in real life, it should not be the law that dictates their decision because as parents, we love our child and we give what is best for them, including our fortune, which we need to pass on to them as eventually, we will pass in this world as we reach the end of our journey.

I am with you on this sentiment, but we can't totally discard the fact about family troubles.
Hence, the law regarding this matter if in case the family itself can't resolve their own problems.
That's when the law comes in. Because like it or not, not all family are model families, a lot have secrets to unravel.
And sometimes, family feud can be bloody when financial aspect is on the line or inheritance.

That law just adds a layer of complexity. When you zoom out, it's the parents who decide whether to pass on their inheritance to their children. They have the power to make that call. If they're still around and decide to specify in their last will that their money won't go to their children, well, the kids can't really contest that decision. No law can override the parents' wishes.

So, the moral of the story is, if you're eyeing an inheritance from your parents, it's crucial to show them respect and be the kind of child they'd want to leave their wealth to. After all, parents generally just want the best for their kids.

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Quote from: dezoel on November 16, 2023, 04:45:24 AM

I think you don't have to be a chronic gambler to have a disgraceful or dishonorable life. That must be the reason on why the person still get's disinherited by their parents. Add in that maybe gambling was a bit strict on their country. If the person is in doubt, well, they can always try to appeal. They only want to make sure that they have a good amount of money and long patience because I think that it's not going to be quick and easy.

Maybe the person in the story is also been hated by their parents? Because if not, I think they can make the gambling issue a secret, even if the allegations were true and no other people will know, as long as the guy is not popular and is only gambling online inside their home.

The reason for this behaviour was based on the fact that society view on the gambler,the gambler is different from the gambling addicted person.The reason for the property not given to the gambler by inherit was the gambler parent was consider the gambler will loss the full property to the gambling sites.But the fact is that the normal gambler will know their limitation in the gambling.They will loss which they afford to loss,they never bet more than their holding gambling to the gambling sites.The loss in the gambling can be recovered by playing many game into the gambling with the limit money investment to the same gambling site which had made you to loss some money in gambling.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 16, 2023, 05:02:18 PM

That law is useless if your parents are really willing to give you the inheritance. It seems like the law was only created to become an excuse for parents who don't want to give their property to their children. But in real life, it should not be the law that dictates their decision because as parents, we love our child and we give what is best for them, including our fortune, which we need to pass on to them as eventually, we will pass in this world as we reach the end of our journey.

I am with you on this sentiment, but we can't totally discard the fact about family troubles.
Hence, the law regarding this matter if in case the family itself can't resolve their own problems.
That's when the law comes in. Because like it or not, not all family are model families, a lot have secrets to unravel.
And sometimes, family feud can be bloody when financial aspect is on the line or inheritance.

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That law is useless if your parents are really willing to give you the inheritance. It seems like the law was only created to become an excuse for parents who don't want to give their property to their children. But in real life, it should not be the law that dictates their decision because as parents, we love our child and we give what is best for them, including our fortune, which we need to pass on to them as eventually, we will pass in this world as we reach the end of our journey.

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Quote from: piebeyb on November 16, 2023, 03:24:13 AM

There are also many cases in my country where most parents prefer to divert their inheritance to charity activities rather than their children, because there are many incidents where children get into fights just because of inheritance when their parents die, where fighting over inheritance rights will make siblings kill each other, so Because of this, many parents rarely give inheritance rights to their children.

It’s crazy knowing how far people are willing to go so as to be included in the will and given a portion of the wealth of a deceased family member.
It’s sad to see people not willing to work and provide too themselves cause they were privileged to be born with a silver spoon.
Children who bicker and fight over a recently deceased family member’s possessions in a bid to greedily get a large portion of possessions left behind do not deserve such things. Perhaps that’s why such laws exists prohibiting irresponsible children from getting a piece of their parents wealth after they’re gone.

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It is legal. Basically your parents own their fortune and they can do anything about it. They can put in their will that they are not leaving any portion to you. It works that way in our country. The will should be in writing and notarized. If there is no will, then it will be the decision of the law, but they need solid proof that you should be disinherited.
Are your parents still alive, OP? Because if yes, I think you just hve to make amends with them. If you dont want to, then I guess you let go of the inheritance? It’s not yours in the first place. If they have already passed, you can appeal it to the law and consider consulting with a lawyer to assess the specific details of your case. Anything can be appealed. They can provide guidance on whether you have a basis to contest the will and pursue your inheritance rights.

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Quote from: dezoel on November 16, 2023, 04:45:24 AM

Maybe the person in the story is also been hated by their parents? Because if not, I think they can make the gambling issue a secret, even if the allegations were true and no other people will know, as long as the guy is not popular and is only gambling online inside their home.

Yeah there could be other reasons that the parents could hinge on gambling to be excuse for disinheriting because it is captured in the reason for disinheriting the person. There would be an under current that would make a parent to decide that the child won't inherit from them even if the child happens to be a chronic gambler, what he needs is help and not to be treated like trash and inhumane. The court can easily upturn the rule because it is not clearly started what makes up a chronic gambler.

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I think you don't have to be a chronic gambler to have a disgraceful or dishonorable life. That must be the reason on why the person still get's disinherited by their parents. Add in that maybe gambling was a bit strict on their country. If the person is in doubt, well, they can always try to appeal. They only want to make sure that they have a good amount of money and long patience because I think that it's not going to be quick and easy.

Maybe the person in the story is also been hated by their parents? Because if not, I think they can make the gambling issue a secret, even if the allegations were true and no other people will know, as long as the guy is not popular and is only gambling online inside their home.

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Quote from: Iroh on November 15, 2023, 06:01:02 PM

Could a will be challenged in court? Isn’t the will supposed to be like an open and shut thing? If nothing was willed to you, you get nothing.

Sometimes in each country there are different laws where a child may be able to sue their parents for disinheriting their child just because of a proven accusation, but in most countries that don't have laws like that, it seems there are no such lawsuits. choose to accept it even though the parents revoke their inheritance rights for their children, even in my country it is a parent's right that must be respected as a child.

There are also many cases in my country where most parents prefer to divert their inheritance to charity activities rather than their children, because there are many incidents where children get into fights just because of inheritance when their parents die, where fighting over inheritance rights will make siblings kill each other, so Because of this, many parents rarely give inheritance rights to their children.

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When a child or descendant leads a dishonorable or disgraceful life;

I think someone can disinherit the child based on whatever reason that is criminal or notorious but it can also be challenged strongly in court.

So on the face level based on the quote, the parents don't need to prove that the child is a chronic gambler because that is even relative. If the child has shown signs of gambling whilst it is written in the section that mentioned gambling, then it is already enough to label the child a chronic gambler if that is the word needed to classify it or put the knot to it. Then it will be in the place of the child to disprove if he succeeds.

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Quote from: coin-investor on November 13, 2023, 10:39:29 AM

Your parents are very rich and they have made a will while they are still alive Your parent is disinheriting you on the ground on one of the laws in our country about disinheritance that

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When a child or descendant leads a dishonorable or disgraceful life;

because of gambling but they have not proven that you are a chronic gambler and you think you are a responsible gambler.

Do you have a case here on the ground that it is not proven that you are a chronic gambler and have not lost a fortune in gambling, can you appeal this case in court to make the will invalid and get your part in the inheritance?

Here in our country, you cannot disinherit your heirs as long as the heir does not violate what's stated in the law about inheritance and they just used the quoted message as their ground.

What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?

Providing your innocence is one way I think will help him a lot because with legal matters, if you can make proves then their could be possible considerations that could be made. But then in the Will there have to be further statement about what should be done if his innocences can be proven.

My country I don't think I have come across any law or policy with such strings attached but in most cases wills are usually been follows just the way it was stated and wanted by the client. But then I think in situations as this the case could be appealed and further investigation done to ascertain the real truth regarding the person concerned and when it's determined maybe possible adjustments in that regards could be effected.

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The government already has a considerable and quite worrying influence on the choices and decisions of its citizens. The idea of them butting in and limiting your options on who you can include in your will is crazy. It’s simply not the governments business to dictate the eligibility of people in a will as an individual should have the right to put and take away on his will, whoever he chooses.

Could a will be challenged in court? Isn’t the will supposed to be like an open and shut thing? If nothing was willed to you, you get nothing.

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The clause that talks about your disgraceful or dishonorable life is a little tongue in cheek if I do say so myself. First off, it's a little convoluted. You don't really have exact and final grounds to decide whether someone's lived a "disgraceful" life. For all we know first generation Chinese parents could literally disown their kids if they chose a different course or college program than medicine or business lol. Another would be the fact that this is their money, and they wouldn't be jailed since technically, they are not disowning you. You're probably still going to receive their stipends and support while you still live, but don't expect to receive any when they die is what this clause means.

How do you solve this? Well perhaps just be on their good side for a while, it's obvious that they have a problem with your gambling habits, no matter how "disciplined" you are. Quit it for a while and do some other worthwhile things and show it to them. If things play out right you're getting your name back on the will, if it doesn't. Well at the very least you know for sure you're not chained to your gambling impulses.

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Quote from: coin-investor on November 13, 2023, 10:39:29 AM

Your parents are very rich and they have made a will while they are still alive Your parent is disinheriting you on the ground on one of the laws in our country about disinheritance that

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When a child or descendant leads a dishonorable or disgraceful life;

because of gambling but they have not proven that you are a chronic gambler and you think you are a responsible gambler.

Do you have a case here on the ground that it is not proven that you are a chronic gambler and have not lost a fortune in gambling, can you appeal this case in court to make the will invalid and get your part in the inheritance?

Here in our country, you cannot disinherit your heirs as long as the heir does not violate what's stated in the law about inheritance and they just used the quoted message as their ground.

What's your take on this and what do your country's laws say about this?

If that is what is stated in the will, it cannot be changed, instead that is what should happen, Since the person who made the will is still alive, there is a high chance that it will be changed if what is stated in the will of testament.

So the best way to change that is to talk to the inheritor himself, and at least in this matter the situation will be different because it is between the personal feelings of a family. Then if you really want to be settled, the simple thing to do is to follow what is in the will for as long as the author is alive.

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I'll freely accept their judgment and I would not dare clear my name. Inheritance is something that a lot of people are longing for, since it's an easy way to get off the reins of poverty. No sweat, no hardwork, just wait for your family to die and leave you off with something to work with.

But for me, even if I gamble, I'd probably not go full degenerate and still know when to stop. If they don't give me any inheritance, that is fine. I can work my way up there while still being true to myself. I'll gamble and not live according to what other people want just so they can give me something.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on November 14, 2023, 09:42:04 AM

Actually, even an illegitimate child has the right of inheritance. So a legitimate child even if the person is an irresponsible gambling addict can claim an inheritance. What more to a regular but responsible gambler, of course, they'll have more rights to claim inheritance like a business for example.

Except maybe in some countries where freedom is limited and betting is not allowed as they have their own different laws from most modern countries.

Personally, if my parents do not want me to inherit their assets because I bet casually, I'm not going to question it. But when it comes to assets they only inherit from their parents and other bloodlines, I'm absolutely going to contest it. But they can sell it to avoid inheriting it from a child they do not like.

Things happen and we have to respect the nature sometimes because you can do more than what you can give. There are some children that can be control and there are some that no matter how you force them to be something, they will choose their path and to me, if they are not below 18 years, they should be allow to live their lives as they fit, whatever happens should be their responsibility because after all, there is consequences for every action.

There are even some responsible children that inherited good amount money from their parent and as soon as they received it, they spend everything under a month, year and some few years on women and alcohol, isn't that painful and worse than even gambling that some see as bad character. Gambling addiction is a bad behavior that can be taken away with sense and not a completely bad behavior to stop a child from inheritance.

If I'm the parent and he is yet to change, I will make sure he change and the only reason I will give him the inheritance is if I see changes. I know some people will say he is going to change because of the money but I will split it into 25% to be distributed in 10 years so that he doesn't go back to gambling after giving him everything.

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Whoever is behind the story fucked up big time to have allowed his parents notice his gambling habits... They may not be reasoning the same thing as you have but, Thier decisions would mean alot to them since you're only the "next of kin" and won't forcefully claim the properties to yourself except there is no will.
I would only beg and then try as much as possible to convince them that I'm a changed person and I'd wanna retain my new personality..

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