Topic: Your tips and tricks to orange pill your family and friends - page 2. (Read 467 times)

With my own family I have totally given up. They only believe what the media tells them and often enough they got told that bitcoin is a high risk investment that will someday burst and everybody will lose their money. Also crypto is the payment of the underworld and therefor cannot be trusted, haha.

Old people, they believe what they want to believe.

It's a little different with the family of my fiance, they are more open to it since they are also still looking for investment. My family has given up on that, maybe also because of age.

Fiances family is trying to educate themselves about the whole crypto thing and I have a feeling they might soon know even more than us. 

I too am learning every day and I thought it was a well-known expression   (that's why I didn't expect most of the answers I got)

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/what-does-it-mean-to-orange-pill-someone

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Orange%20pill

https://kolinlukasx.medium.com/the-orange-pill-changes-your-view-about-money-its-time-for-you-to-get-a-taste-125d5668c359

And if you are looking for love, friendship and bitcoin : https://www.theorangepillapp.com/en

A bit of orange pill design : https://www.bitcoin-gear.com/products/time-to-get-orange-pilled-hoodie

I've been in the crypto for 5 years, but it's the first time that I've heard that term "Orange Pill" being used.
That's the proof that I really need to do some more research, and gain more knowledge.

Invest for them? Nahhh don't do it. I would never do that thing as well if I'm in your shoes. You will invest for them, and then if you gain profit? You will give some to them. Funny how these lazy people are thinking right? They are doing things the easy way, and they will use somebody for their own sake.

Just forget about those people who aren't interested in Bitcoin. I don't want to convince them myself as well. I will only answer them once they asked me something that is related to Bitcoin, but to convince them to buy Bitcoin? I will not do it because of two things. One is, I want them to learn what Bitcoin is, then let them decide whether they will invest or not. Two is, I don't want to be blamed once they lose money because they invested into Bitcoin.

That is not a bad reflection on life though, I would agree with that. If you put finance and relations together, the relations would get damaged when finances are damaged. If you take money from your friends, even if they begged you to do it, then when you put it in bitcoin you will end up being upset that you lost money, even if they say nothing it will feel bad.

I did it for a family member, they wanted to put a small amount, an amount I could just give them even if all of it was gone, but when they lost it I felt terrible, they are back to profit again thankfully but it was a terrible feeling. So all in all, I understand your point of view, and that should not be an issue for you at all, it should be totally understood at this moment.

Génial merci beaucoup 

I don't have any tricks or special tactics aside from buying, hodling, working in creating new content, and waiting for the next bull run when they all come to me and ask me how they can buy some bitcoin. Unfortunately, they all end up buying the tip and not the dip (like they should) and they end up "losing money" but there are a few who are convicted enough to hodl through the turmoil and keep buying while the market dips and they end up in the black eventually.

I also really like these websites because it gives them something more tangible and teaches them about some of the more fundamental benefits of bitcoin. 

https://bitcoinorshit.com/ - This helps them to understand that if they didn't buy dumb shit, they could have a lot more wealth today.
https://storeoftime.com/ - This shows them that bitcoin stores the value of their time into the future better than anything else out there.
https://dcabtc.com/ - Anyone can backtest a simple purchase to see how much they would have today if they had just listened to me years ago. I often tell people "$10 per day for 10 years will change your life."
https://FiatMarketCap.com - when people tell me that Bitcoin will "never replace fiat currency" when in reality it already has a larger market cap than most fiat currencies in the world.
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/ - A useful tool to help people to understand how the value of our labor has been distorted ever since the US dollar was decoupled from gold in 1971.
https://observablehq.com/@jimbojw/wen-moon - A powerful tool to show people when you can "retire" from your bitcoin holdings based on how much they have in relation fiat depreciation and bitcoin appreciation.

I also link them to a lot of valuable articles and content on how they can easily and practically save in bitcoin. Aside from all of that, I jut stack, hodl, build, and wait.

Actually I don't want them to, you may call myself selfish which is true somehow but the main reason is I don't want to mix up finance with relationship because it mostly will end up in bad situation so just let them what they do and if tou feel they are doing something wrong then you can give your suggestions about how to succeed from it but its their choice to decide what to do and we can't analyse or force someone to invest in something what we are interested.

A wise man once said “You will never be able to give enough adequate explanation to a person that is already determined to misunderstand you”. It’s no use trying to convince people who do not want anything to do with bitcoin, you are likely to get a negative reaction. There is no perfect technique to the success of convincing newbies to get into bitcoin, it’s easier to convince a person that already has a positive attitude towards bitcoin.

You are wrong. I cook pretty well and it is not impossible that he loves my cake (which I remind you is a special recipe good for his health, that is to say without sugar and bad ingredients).

My kids, when they were young, didn't want to eat vegetables, but a few tricks and they were done. Today they are in great shape (probably not only because of the vegetables, but also because of a good general diet).

I have nothing to gain personally by sharing what I know about bitcoin, but what the mainstream media is saying is usually wrong and focused only on the bear market or bull market. That's not what makes bitcoin interesting.

Based on your example, you're already know the answer! You shouldn't be sad or mad when your friend doesn't want to taste your cake, as he was not ask you to make him a cake.

If you're still seek a way or trick to make him taste your cake, you're not respect his decision. You can't generalize anything is same, if you think it's good for you, other people can think it's not good for them.

Very interesting remark. So it's just a question of vocabulary that has biased the interpretation. I thought "to orange pill" was a neutral expression.

Well otherwise to give an example:

You know your friend doesn't like cake very much. But you have a great recipe with special ingredients that are good for his health (in addition to the fact that it tastes great). So you make him the cake, and he is free to taste it or not, without any obligation.

That's more what I had in mind. As for those (few) who want to entrust me with a few hundred euros, it would be better if they learned themselves what Bitcoin is all about. I'm not interested in keeping other people's money, knowing that they might not even get it back if I die.

In short, there are almost two questions in one.

Thank you for explaining why I didn't understand all these strange answers.

you said in your original post that "you've given up on that Idea" which gave me the idea that you've tried to "orange pill" them about Bitcoin several times(I could be totally wrong though), also, before this reply my understanding of "orange pill" is that it is a condescending/arrogant way of telling people about Bitcoin(which apparently is not, after looking more into it) and that is why I said the part on my post that you highlighted.

now, as for the "tips and tricks," I will still say that let them be if they themselves aren't interested in being "orange pilled", and I am adding that be open to them if they are the ones who asked and are interested in discussing Bitcoin.

I will never hold anything related to money or investing for someone, unless I give advice then teach how to invest, because it's extremely risky to hold someone's properties, especially funds. What if the coin is invested got dumped? Money can make people you trust betray you. And as we all know, when people lose something for which they had made plans, they become angry.
My point is that anything involving handling someone else's money or holding coins for them is extremely risky; you must either teach them how to handle their money or leave it alone.

I think that was never my intention to begin with. Why would I want to convince my family and friends? There are millions of people who are interested in crypto today, that is big enough that it doesn't really need me. In fact, if you take how many people ever owned a single satoshi, and make them vote for a crypto party, that party would be winning elections in almost any nation in the world (for fair election ones, not like china or Russia).

So, when it is as big as that, trying to convince my surroundings doesn't really mean much, it would be futile to convince like 3-5 people more, sure if we all did that then it would be great, but obviously we can't all do it at the same time, so I rather be one of the ones that doesn't do that.

Your answer shows that you didn't read what I wrote at all, too bad I would have liked an answer to the subject in question. That said, you're not the only one talking about harassment or whatever, fortunately I got a link to a book that looks very interesting, that will at least make a constructive post in this thread ...

pushing an idea in someone's throat is one of the best ways to make someone hate that Idea, if I were you, just let them be, there is no point pestering them if they themselves are not interested in knowing/learning about Bitcoin. they would probably just become annoyed at you if you keep telling or as you say "orange pilling" them.

I don't like the idea of promoting Bitcoin to friends and family, because there's a lot to lose and not a lot to gain. Even in the best case scenario (bitcoin goes up, they sell and get profit) they will not be fully grateful and it won't improve your relationship. But if things go south - price taking a dive, they get hacked or scammed, etc; you will absolutely be blamed, maybe they will even demand compensation from you.

I have been involved in such a situation quite a multiple times where individuals who are afraid of taking a risk will rely on me to manage their investments, there is one of them who recently sent me a what app message beginning me to help him invest that he has all the money needed to buy a few bulks.


But what my replies have always been for them is that I don't serve as a financial broker rather I am Ok managing my personal financial life and if they want to invest any amount, there can take the risk themselves.

What I have realised with Bitcoin is that Bitcoin is a self-independent financial life so everyone has the right to sick to build the necessary knowledge.

I tried it once and I won't repeat it, in the bull market a friend who knows a little bit about bitcoin and cryptocurrency gave me to invest money for him, actually I bought him some altcoin and we made good profits and he was happy.

After a while, when the bearish market started, he gave me another amount of money and asked to invest, but this time the losses started due to the market falling. He was not happy this time, and neither am I, because I had to bear half of the loss from my own pocket.

Therefore, I decided to abandon the idea and not invest in anyone else's place.

Anyone who is not willing to learn anything shouldn't meant to be given attention towards cryptocurrency investment, when we talks of cryptocurrency investment this includes investing in bitcoin and any other altcoin out there. Sometimes you may take such action for a close relatives whom you knows that truly they can entrust their funds into your hands than those who don't think how much risk is involved while investing their money. For some friends maybe colleague or such as school mates who are willing to learn and do their findings it's fine to invest maybe as time goes the will keep learning than those who purposefully wants to leave risk to you.