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sr. member
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June 09, 2013, 04:30:19 PM
#44
Nah! Actually, the US Government only cares about collecting taxes on capital and short term gains, preventing money laundering and stopping drug and illegal arms financing. If you are going to run a legit business, the US Government doesn't care.

Just pay your taxes, and quit visiting SR to get goodies.


Ok, now that I've got your attention with an over dramatic sensationalized headline here is the real deal....

Soon the DHS will announce that anybody who owns, transfers, buys, trades, or settles debts with Bitcoins in the U.S. will be considered a person of interest in terrorist activities.   

That is exactly where I think we are going...Just give it time & with this new scandal literally breaking RIGHT now it further pushes the theory even closer to reality. With all the recent activities & Government involved shut downs of BTC & now this HUGE breaking news that websites like these including FB, Yahoo, Google, etc. are not only monitored but they have access to your accounts just makes it all worse...I can not believe the intrusiveness and abuse of power this U.S. Government has taken.  Soon well all have to be using TOR until that is outlawed... 

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/new-leak-feds-can-access-anything-in-your-google-facebook-and-more/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arstechnica%2Findex+%28Ars+Technica+-+All+content%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/29/nyregion/liberty-reserve-operators-accused-of-money-laundering.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://betabeat.com/2013/05/department-of-homeland-security-shuts-down-dwolla-payments-to-and-from-mt-gox/

The list goes on... Cry
newbie
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June 09, 2013, 07:51:49 AM
#43
A nation has the right to defend itself from both foreign and domestic enemies, if they are physical foes or ideological ones; But the point is mute when the world has already embraced
the BTC by allowing people to declare their earnings and to consider it money. The only terrorists I forse are those ideological ones that support a organizations enemies, North Korea vs South Korea, Western World Vs Iran, activists vs the establishment, environmentalists vs Big Business; Money can be very devisive when people are able to see how much support and backing ideas have that they do not support, especially when it can be catalogued on a giant public ledger, a global tally of world power.
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June 09, 2013, 06:57:36 AM
#42
Let's assume for a second here a government let's say the US would want to stop bitcoin.
What makes you think Bitcoin doesn't die a horrible death as soon as the heads and mouths of bitcoin get invited to a free vacation in Guantanamo for supporting terrorists? Think Ver, Versennes, Andresen, Karpeles, etc. etc. You think Bitcoin keeps going on when the movers and shakers are removed? "But but others will take their place!" Yes, they will. On the waterboard.

LOL great post.

I disagree with the quality of that post.  This "USA-centric" thinking is annoying.  The US is already a gulag state; pick any socio-economic measure that exists and the US won't be anywhere near the top of global rankings.  So what's so great about the USA again?  It's living off a legacy of past excellence while it unravels its past wisdom.  Not likely in the remotest, but yeah - they might water-board every bitcoin owner in the US and some outside, but really.  Believe me.  There is a world beyond Uncle Sam's borders which is getting bigger and better every day. 

Small and well publicised setbacks aside, the positive progress in the world gets no press time and is bigger than most suspect.  So don't believe your nightly news 'cause it's not representative of reality.  ;-)
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June 09, 2013, 06:18:08 AM
#41
Let's assume for a second here a government let's say the US would want to stop bitcoin.
What makes you think Bitcoin doesn't die a horrible death as soon as the heads and mouths of bitcoin get invited to a free vacation in Guantanamo for supporting terrorists? Think Ver, Versennes, Andresen, Karpeles, etc. etc. You think Bitcoin keeps going on when the movers and shakers are removed? "But but others will take their place!" Yes, they will. On the waterboard.

LOL great post.
sr. member
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June 09, 2013, 01:56:34 AM
#40
If any1 needz me,
I will be facing Mecca, praising Allah... Grin
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
June 08, 2013, 05:27:06 PM
#39
"You're all terrorists...."

your mom's a terrorist...



BOOM
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June 08, 2013, 04:45:14 PM
#38
I thinks that only applies if you're social life depends on the use of those company's products. That's why I switched to Duck Duck Go for web search. Lavabit for email. And now only use VPN for internet browsing. The only thing that I'm exposed with would be facebook but I don't even have any personal info on there besides my name and birthday. Though FB always tires to get me to include more info "about myself".

Duck Duck Go is a very good search engine, using it and a VPN should be concidered a must !

Duck to the duck to the go my nizzle.  Been using it for years, no internet bubbles here baby!  Quack!
legendary
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Death to enemies!
June 08, 2013, 02:11:54 PM
#37
That goverment shouldn't even be taken serious.
Why not buy an island make it a country of bitcoin, and we all move there  Grin
Because USA will invade your bitcoin island to bring democracy, peace and anal syphilis.
legendary
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Terminated.
June 08, 2013, 03:33:02 AM
#36
That goverment shouldn't even be taken serious.
Why not buy an island make it a country of bitcoin, and we all move there  Grin
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
June 08, 2013, 01:42:15 AM
#35
US govt is just a lame joke now ... "... land of the free, home of the brave."

... complete with widespread surveillance, press intimidation, IRS bully-boys, militarised police forces, detention without charge,
suspension of
 - presumption of innocence
 - trial by jury
 - secret courts
 - due process
 - speedy trials.

Unenforced financial crimes by powerful, two systems of justice ... we all know how this ends just that no one wants "to go there" yet.

Wait I think I saw a terrorist sneaking up that alley, didn't you see him too? I mean really you fell for that old line? Wink
legendary
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Death to enemies!
June 07, 2013, 11:51:55 PM
#34
Happy not to live in evil empire USA. All they care is establishing total control over whole world and total slavery for it's own citizens. I'm happy that USSR dissolved but there must be someone who effectively counters USA both military and ideologically. I call for Greater Iran to be that opposition who keeps balance. Russians are evil too, China even worse, India too divided to be called single nation.

As for Bitcoins the day we all become labeled terrorists does not be a different day to me. Don't care. Probably I'm already labeled suspicious for running Tor node.
legendary
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Bitcoin
June 07, 2013, 09:51:43 PM
#33
I thinks that only applies if you're social life depends on the use of those company's products. That's why I switched to Duck Duck Go for web search. Lavabit for email. And now only use VPN for internet browsing. The only thing that I'm exposed with would be facebook but I don't even have any personal info on there besides my name and birthday. Though FB always tires to get me to include more info "about myself".

Duck Duck Go is a very good search engine, using it and a VPN should be concidered a must !
legendary
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Bitcoin
June 07, 2013, 09:48:32 PM
#32
Ok, now that I've got your attention with an over dramatic sensationalized headline here is the real deal....

Soon the DHS will announce that anybody who owns, transfers, buys, trades, or settles debts with Bitcoins in the U.S. will be considered a person of interest in terrorist activities.   

That is exactly where I think we are going...Just give it time & with this new scandal literally breaking RIGHT now it further pushes the theory even closer to reality. With all the recent activities & Government involved shut downs of BTC & now this HUGE breaking news that websites like these including FB, Yahoo, Google, etc. are not only monitored but they have access to your accounts just makes it all worse...I can not believe the intrusiveness and abuse of power this U.S. Government has taken.  Soon well all have to be using TOR until that is outlawed... 

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/new-leak-feds-can-access-anything-in-your-google-facebook-and-more/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arstechnica%2Findex+%28Ars+Technica+-+All+content%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/29/nyregion/liberty-reserve-operators-accused-of-money-laundering.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://betabeat.com/2013/05/department-of-homeland-security-shuts-down-dwolla-payments-to-and-from-mt-gox/

The list goes on... Cry

About PRISM, just dont tell me you were not suspecting such activities..
legendary
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Cryptanalyst castrated by his government, 1952
June 07, 2013, 10:21:05 AM
#31
I thinks that only applies if you're social life depends on the use of those company's products. That's why I switched to Duck Duck Go for web search. Lavabit for email. And now only use VPN for internet browsing. The only thing that I'm exposed with would be facebook but I don't even have any personal info on there besides my name and birthday. Though FB always tires to get me to include more info "about myself".

Thanks for that. I see DuckDuckGo uses a script, according to NoScript. Do you happen to know what that's about?

Edit: I'm looking at lavabit now also. Looks promising. You wouldn't believe how many "secure email" places I've used over the years, with terrible results such as the mad scramble to reroute mail when they went out of business. This one is clearly different. Open source - nice. This item in their "philosophy" page gives me pause though:  "Lavabit adamantly protects the privacy of its users. Lavabit will only release private information if legally compelled by the courts in accordance with the United States Constitution." I don't see how they can avoid that, and it's obviously much better than the "share everything by default" approach, but it still means that if the US authorities get overzealous (hard to believe, I know), then there is no privacy after all. Is this as good as it gets today - total privacy unless "the authorities" want your data? Ironically, it is a good thing such a rule was not in place when the Federalist Papers were published anonymously in 1787-8 or there might be no US Constitution. But I digress.       Smiley

I don't mean to look a gift horse in the mouth, and thanks again for the names. I'm just trying to do the due diligence thing. 


hero member
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June 07, 2013, 10:18:20 AM
#30
Whose reality?  Wink

got to say it,
I reject your reality and substitue my own Smiley

Oh GOD! I'm MELTING! I'M MEEEELTING!
sr. member
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June 07, 2013, 10:15:03 AM
#29
Whose reality?  Wink

got to say it,
I reject your reality and substitue my own Smiley
sr. member
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June 07, 2013, 10:10:56 AM
#28
I select the real reality.


Well, philosophically people have been search for this "real" reality for thousands of years. Haven't found it yet.  Wink

Hmm right... Anyways, that's irrelevant. It's still the one I want to consider.
legendary
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June 07, 2013, 10:06:42 AM
#27
The U.S government can outlaw all they like, it doesn't mean they can enforce it, filesharing for instance has technically been illegal for years now yet it's still going strong, I suspect Bitcoin is going to be the same, all of this is just simply working in the favour of cryptocurrencies.
hero member
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June 07, 2013, 10:06:09 AM
#26
I select the real reality.


Well, philosophically people have been search for this "real" reality for thousands of years. Haven't found it yet.  Wink
hero member
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June 07, 2013, 10:04:54 AM
#25

Bitcoin will not be stopped now, the idea is out and governments who don't like it know it won't be stopped.

Let's assume for a second here a government let's say the US would want to stop bitcoin.

What makes you think Bitcoin doesn't die a horrible death as soon as the heads and mouths of bitcoin get invited to a free vacation in Guantanamo for supporting terrorists? Think Ver, Versennes, Andresen, Karpeles, etc. etc. You think Bitcoin keeps going on when the movers and shakers are removed? "But but others will take their place!" Yes, they will. On the waterboard.
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