You're bidding on being my referrer - page 2.

ezeminer

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Quote from: ezeminer on March 05, 2015, 11:22:56 PM

Quote from: j5d on March 05, 2015, 08:38:06 PM

Quote from: j5d on March 05, 2015, 01:47:57 AM

Quote from: ezeminer on March 05, 2015, 01:05:19 AM

I'll just make a deal. My refer stuff for freebit (the link in my signature) will pay you 10% of the 50% that you win per roll(5% of your roll will come back to you).
say you win 1BTC, I get .5BTC(the 50% comission) and 10% comes to you (.05BTC)
The setting is set at "Share amount based on referral activity since last payout".
I can get the same deal on freedoge if you'd like.

I'll sleep on it. Meanwhile if anyone else out there feels they can do better than this, I'm all ears.

Won't be back on the board for around 15 hours.

Alright. I've slept on it. I have a counter offer.

We start with freedoge. I sign up as your referral. Same terms as stated above.

We agree on a probation period. If I've made you a "reasonable" sum via my actions on freedoge during said probation period, we open negotiations for a new deal for my signing up as your referral on freebit, with a higher percentage earned by me, and a sign-on bonus/payment to retain me as your referral until a future date or amount of bitcoin I earn you has been reached.

I keep everyone aware on the thread of our activity in regards to this deal, either on this thread or another I create for this sole purpose. If we cannot come to an agreement surrounding my signing up as a referral on freebit, I field other offers or return to renegotiate at a later date. Either way, you still have me as a referral on freedoge.

What say you?

I'll stick to my offer as it is one of the only offers I've seen you get. It is much a better share than the top 10 referers do on freebit maybe over time I can bump to the 20% mark. But for now this is one offer that'll be out there

So far I have it setup as is, I have two people that are on my referral so far. I have and will keep it set to this payout as is, unless you prove a good amount of activity is going on over say two weeks. If not, I'll stick to my original plan (5% back on each roll).

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Quote from: j5d on March 05, 2015, 08:38:06 PM

Quote from: j5d on March 05, 2015, 01:47:57 AM

Quote from: ezeminer on March 05, 2015, 01:05:19 AM

I'll just make a deal. My refer stuff for freebit (the link in my signature) will pay you 10% of the 50% that you win per roll(5% of your roll will come back to you).
say you win 1BTC, I get .5BTC(the 50% comission) and 10% comes to you (.05BTC)
The setting is set at "Share amount based on referral activity since last payout".
I can get the same deal on freedoge if you'd like.

I'll sleep on it. Meanwhile if anyone else out there feels they can do better than this, I'm all ears.

Won't be back on the board for around 15 hours.

Alright. I've slept on it. I have a counter offer.

We start with freedoge. I sign up as your referral. Same terms as stated above.

We agree on a probation period. If I've made you a "reasonable" sum via my actions on freedoge during said probation period, we open negotiations for a new deal for my signing up as your referral on freebit, with a higher percentage earned by me, and a sign-on bonus/payment to retain me as your referral until a future date or amount of bitcoin I earn you has been reached.

I keep everyone aware on the thread of our activity in regards to this deal, either on this thread or another I create for this sole purpose. If we cannot come to an agreement surrounding my signing up as a referral on freebit, I field other offers or return to renegotiate at a later date. Either way, you still have me as a referral on freedoge.

What say you?

I'll stick to my offer as it is one of the only offers I've seen you get. It is much a better share than the top 10 referers do on freebit maybe over time I can bump to the 20% mark. But for now this is one offer that'll be out there

j5d

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Quote from: j5d on March 05, 2015, 01:47:57 AM

Quote from: ezeminer on March 05, 2015, 01:05:19 AM

I'll just make a deal. My refer stuff for freebit (the link in my signature) will pay you 10% of the 50% that you win per roll(5% of your roll will come back to you).
say you win 1BTC, I get .5BTC(the 50% comission) and 10% comes to you (.05BTC)
The setting is set at "Share amount based on referral activity since last payout".
I can get the same deal on freedoge if you'd like.

I'll sleep on it. Meanwhile if anyone else out there feels they can do better than this, I'm all ears.

Won't be back on the board for around 15 hours.

Alright. I've slept on it. I have a counter offer.

We start with freedoge. I sign up as your referral. Same terms as stated above.

We agree on a probation period. If I've made you a "reasonable" sum via my actions on freedoge during said probation period, we open negotiations for a new deal for my signing up as your referral on freebit, with a higher percentage earned by me, and a sign-on bonus/payment to retain me as your referral until a future date or amount of bitcoin I earn you has been reached.

I keep everyone aware on the thread of our activity in regards to this deal, either on this thread or another I create for this sole purpose. If we cannot come to an agreement surrounding my signing up as a referral on freebit, I field other offers or return to renegotiate at a later date. Either way, you still have me as a referral on freedoge.

What say you?

j5d

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Quote from: OmegaCollector on March 05, 2015, 03:11:48 PM

It's hard to think of a way to make this work. I've found that most faucets say they have a referral program, but most of them don't send money to your wallet. The only way would be tofind an account that has no other refs, and share what I earn from you with you. So if I earn 1000 sats because you clicked a faucet, I would give you a percentage of that. But you would need to be sure the faucet didn't erase the ref earnings when paying them. You'd have to do lots of experimenting to find one that works right.

It's well understood on both sides that trying to make this work will take some experimenting. The ultimate goal is instead of 1 person making money and 1 other person making money, both have decided to work out a deal so they both end up making more money. Most logical way to do this is sharing everything based on how much each person puts in (money wise and work wise). Referrals don't really allow for such in their structure, hence asking for an investment up front.

If the above auction seems ludicrous, I already have an idea of what doesn't work for people. I'm also up against the "no trust, newbie, possibly scam artist" scenarios. In considering this a business partnership that makes both partners money, you have to start somewhere. You have to earn trust.

Quote from: picolo on March 05, 2015, 03:25:53 PM

1,000,00 satoshis is a lot to make from faucets ! He will likely make an other account to have himself as a referrer.

Or maybe there are a number of interested parties who want to see how this works out and may play a part. And/Or 1,000,000 satoshis from a low paying faucet is simply unrealistic and the numbers have to be adjusted.

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Quote from: Operatr on February 25, 2015, 10:08:17 PM

This is beyond confusing.

I don't believe anyone can ever profit off this.

For example, you want 100,000 satoshi for 10% referral bonus for a site that you listed (which currently is down right now).

You'll have to collect 1,000,000 satoshi for the winner of the auction just to reach ROI and that's not counting the unknown factors of trust and commitment.

1,000,00 satoshis is a lot to make from faucets ! He will likely make an other account to have himself as a referrer.

OmegaCollector

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It's hard to think of a way to make this work. I've found that most faucets say they have a referral program, but most of them don't send money to your wallet. The only way would be tofind an account that has no other refs, and share what I earn from you with you. So if I earn 1000 sats because you clicked a faucet, I would give you a percentage of that. But you would need to be sure the faucet didn't erase the ref earnings when paying them. You'd have to do lots of experimenting to find one that works right.

j5d

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Quote from: ezeminer on March 05, 2015, 01:05:19 AM

I'll just make a deal. My refer stuff for freebit (the link in my signature) will pay you 10% of the 50% that you win per roll(5% of your roll will come back to you).
say you win 1BTC, I get .5BTC(the 50% comission) and 10% comes to you (.05BTC)
The setting is set at "Share amount based on referral activity since last payout".
I can get the same deal on freedoge if you'd like.

I'll sleep on it. Meanwhile if anyone else out there feels they can do better than this, I'm all ears.

Won't be back on the board for around 15 hours.

ezeminer

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Quote from: j5d on March 05, 2015, 12:52:20 AM

Quote from: finlon on March 05, 2015, 12:16:33 AM

How about something like an agreement that you get paid, after they get their referrals ? Will be atleast fair for both, and if you are legit, people would be happy to keep the contract running for subsequent months.

There's got to be some incentive on my end. If I were to sign up as someone's referral, put in the "work", and not get paid, I would have wasted however long I spent visiting the site/faucet/using the service.

Unless you mean I sign up as their referral, they see that I signed up, and then they pay me. Except that still relies on them actually paying me. They can easily decide not to. I don't perform, they get nothing from having referred me, and now I can't sign up as someone else's referral unless I go through the trouble of coming up with a new wallet/email.

Quote from: forzendiablo on March 05, 2015, 12:13:59 AM

thanx for scam proposition

Someone scammed you??

Quote from: BitcoinFr34k on March 04, 2015, 07:58:06 PM

With you having zero to no trust it would probably make sense to bid in the .0005 btc area. But even that would probably be much more then what should be paid

So what should be paid?

I'll just make a deal. My refer stuff for freebit (the link in my signature) will pay you 10% of the 50% that you win per roll(5% of your roll will come back to you).
say you win 1BTC, I get .5BTC(the 50% comission) and 10% comes to you (.05BTC)
The setting is set at "Share amount based on referral activity since last payout".
I can get the same deal on freedoge if you'd like.

j5d

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Quote from: finlon on March 05, 2015, 12:16:33 AM

How about something like an agreement that you get paid, after they get their referrals ? Will be atleast fair for both, and if you are legit, people would be happy to keep the contract running for subsequent months.

There's got to be some incentive on my end. If I were to sign up as someone's referral, put in the "work", and not get paid, I would have wasted however long I spent visiting the site/faucet/using the service.

Unless you mean I sign up as their referral, they see that I signed up, and then they pay me. Except that still relies on them actually paying me. They can easily decide not to. I don't perform, they get nothing from having referred me, and now I can't sign up as someone else's referral unless I go through the trouble of coming up with a new wallet/email.

Quote from: forzendiablo on March 05, 2015, 12:13:59 AM

thanx for scam proposition

Someone scammed you??

Quote from: BitcoinFr34k on March 04, 2015, 07:58:06 PM

With you having zero to no trust it would probably make sense to bid in the .0005 btc area. But even that would probably be much more then what should be paid

So what should be paid?

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Quote from: j5d on March 05, 2015, 12:12:20 AM

Quote from: BitcoinFr34k on March 04, 2015, 07:58:06 PM

I am sorry but why would anyone ever want to do this. Most faucets pay out tiny amounts, and anyone buying would be getting a small fraction of a tiny amount.

Plus you being a newbie means there is no guarantee that you will actually use the accounts you sign up with and no guarantee that you will not do something similar again in the future.

Right. So I'm asking too much. Especially for being a "newbie" as the little designation near my name says.

What would you offer for the risk of me actually being an active referral? And if it paid off, would you do it again?

With you having zero to no trust it would probably make sense to bid in the .0005 btc area. But even that would probably be much more then what should be paid

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How about something like an agreement that you get paid, after they get their referrals ? Will be atleast fair for both, and if you are legit, people would be happy to keep the contract running for subsequent months.

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thanx for scam proposition

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Quote from: BitcoinFr34k on March 04, 2015, 07:58:06 PM

I am sorry but why would anyone ever want to do this. Most faucets pay out tiny amounts, and anyone buying would be getting a small fraction of a tiny amount.

Plus you being a newbie means there is no guarantee that you will actually use the accounts you sign up with and no guarantee that you will not do something similar again in the future.

Right. So I'm asking too much. Especially for being a "newbie" as the little designation near my name says.

What would you offer for the risk of me actually being an active referral? And if it paid off, would you do it again?

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I am sorry but why would anyone ever want to do this. Most faucets pay out tiny amounts, and anyone buying would be getting a small fraction of a tiny amount.

Plus you being a newbie means there is no guarantee that you will actually use the accounts you sign up with and no guarantee that you will not do something similar again in the future.

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Quote from: OmegaCollector on March 03, 2015, 06:25:31 PM

Would you be interested in doing it for a different account? like boxbit.co.in

Absolutely. Let's talk business. Private message me. If this auction isn't appealing to people then it just wont work, but if someone wants to reach out to me otherwise and make offers I am open to hear them.

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Would you be interested in doing it for a different account? like boxbit.co.in

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Quote from: j5d on February 25, 2015, 11:11:56 PM

100,000 satoshi, despite the fact that it is less than 25 cents right now, is too expensive for people to even take a chance?

When you can spend double that to get at least 10 on a not so popular site, yes.

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Quote from: ezeminer on February 25, 2015, 10:53:14 PM

Iwouldn't personally offer anything, because in the future nobody knows how active you'll be on the faucet site, once a day, once a week?

Right, and that makes perfect sense. So if this were ever to "work" for both the winning bidder and I, I would have to be an active referral, ideally one that provided an ROI. If I were ever to have a 2nd auction, the onus is on me proving I'm worth the winning bid of the first auction.

The problem is there's no guarantee. So it's based on trust.

100,000 satoshi, despite the fact that it is less than 25 cents right now, is too expensive for people to even take a chance?

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Quote from: j5d on February 25, 2015, 10:14:02 PM

Quote from: Operatr on February 25, 2015, 10:08:17 PM

This is beyond confusing.

I don't believe anyone can ever profit off this.

For example, you want 100,000 satoshi for 10% referral bonus for a site that you listed (which currently is down right now).

You'll have to collect 1,000,000 satoshi for the winner of the auction just to reach ROI and that's not counting the unknown factors of trust and commitment.

Valid points. As it is the first auction it only seems reasonable that there would be questions.

IF you were to bid, what would be your offer? (This is not an official bid. It's a question).

Iwouldn't personally offer anything, because in the future nobody knows how active you'll be on the faucet site, once a day, once a week?

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