Topic: YouTube and Facebook may soon be banned in Turkey (Read 3973 times)

I think that is because of the reforms in the '30 by Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. But the Turks won't get another leader like him to soon.

Turkey was the most secular Muslim country in the world, until Recep Tayyip Erdoğan took over as the Prime Minister in 2002. Ever since, he is conducting a silent Islamization campaign.

I'll check it.

Exactly what I was talking above. Let's see them banning this one .

If anyone from Turkey reads this: http://twister.net.co/

Your move Turkish government.

Yes its right most of Muslims countries governments are hypocrites and they don't give independence and rights to common peoples and doing corruption

It is also used to spread false information , like twitter. I think they've killed some actors 2 or 3 times based on tweets.
Also , it can be controlled and it can be blocked.

If people really want a platform for news and spreading information a decentralized p2p solution would be the best choice.

Facebook might be crap, but a lot of people use it (along with Twitter) to spread censored news articles. FB communities and groups are also used as a meeting point, for people who are under governmental harassment.

Side note for turkish users:  Use a VPN or tails, easy workaround of government censorship.
Then quit facebook and use diaspora, facebook is heavily censored.

I would wildly guess they love facebook and youtube, their theocracy not that much? (Yes, Turkey is not a theocracy... Yet)

You don't like what you can't control

Why those muslims don't like facebook and youtube?

Or they could stop using facebook , it's a piece of crap anyway

They can using "mirrors"

I don't think that it was their intention to be a full member of the EU. They are after the commercial relations and seeking only a to be a tax free partner.

Same thing happening in our country Pakistan we have Court orders but they are still not allowing us even now doing tricks for restrictions on TV

We have court order that Youtube should re-open but they still block the normal access. We have to use VPN's to open it.

I understand why he wants Youtube to be banned....
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Erdoğan allegedly punches man in Soma, aide kicks mourner

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan allegedly punched a young man several times in Soma on Wednesday, after a large crowd angrily protested the recent mining disaster in which an explosion and fire killed at least 283 mineworkers.

Many people in the crowd protested Erdoğan's presence, shouting that he is a “murderer” and a “thief,” reportedly forcing the prime minister to take shelter in a grocery store. However, some reports claim that Erdoğan entered the store not to avoid the protests but rather to follow -- and subsequently punch -- a young man who had shouted at him outside the store.

Nationalist Movement Party (MHP) deputy Lütfü Türkkan has claimed that he has spoken to the man who Erdoğan punched, saying that the young man's name is Taner Kuruca.




An adviser of Erdoğan kicked a mourner



http://youtu.be/0g_Dnid86WU

http://www.todayszaman.com/newsDetail.action?newsId=347824

damn, they ain't joining the EU like that

You can't believe how we live for 12 years.

If Turks are not the dumbest people in this world, they should immediately pull this lunatic down from the President post, by whatever means. How can anyone vomit so much of stupidity?

Turkey's prime minister said Saturday he will "go after" Twitter, accusing the site of tax-evasion, after it was used to spread damaging leaks implicating his inner circle in corruption claims.

In a televised speech, Recep Tayyip Erdogan also launched a tirade against the nation's highest court for ruling against a ban on Twitter, charging that it put the rights of businesses above that of Turkey's.

"Twitter, YouTube and Facebook are international companies established for profit and making money," Erdogan said.

"Twitter is at the same time a tax evader. We will go after it," he added.

"These companies, like every international company, will abide by my country's constitution, laws and tax rules".


http://news.yahoo.com/turkey-pm-accuses-twitter-tax-evasion-133255071.html

^^^ Prison industry is getting big in Turkey, just like the way it is in the US.

I don't live in Turkey but the threat of using free speech over there is getting more and more perilous . That is the main raison d'être of this thread.

They never banned Facebook but PM said they may be banned on the TV.
Twitter was banned 2 weeks before local elections, supreme court cancelled the ban order after elections. It is open right now. It was closed for 3 weeks.
Youtube was also banned, but it's open again.
They also blocked some DNS services, including Google DNS. (8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4) (It has common use in Turkey)
They intentionally slowed down the network speed. They can easily do that, because internet service provider Türk Telekom is monopoly in Turkey.
The most important reason behind these bans is to hide how PM and his family stole more than 10 billion dollars from public.
In a normal democratic country, PM need to resign millions of times, but this is Turkey.

Refer this map:

wait so, did they ban facebook?

I'v read something about it earlier but still didn't catch up if it's all just "going to happen" or it happened in the meanwhile from posting this thread and this page we're currently on?

WTF 

I expect that to be in the 75-80% range. Taking a look back in to the history, the Ottomans were famous for their love of goats and camels. That's why in the Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks, they called Sultan Mehmed IV a goat-f*cker.

Next internet will be banned. What to expect from an Islamic state.


What is the percentage in turkey of people having sex with animals?

Supreme court cancelled the Twitter ban order but fascist goverment don't listen court order.

NATO / EU doesn't have anything to say about this? Remember that Turkey is the foremost candidate at the moment for the EU membership.

Don't fuck with the internet: http://youtu.be/iQxaadl44UQ

Restriction is not good,people in turkey won\t like that and unfortunately  we might see another revolution.

Is the ban something to do with this would you say ?

I love the internet 

I wouldn't mind facebook being banned in the U.S. 

In more seriousness though, you'll probably see alot more of this sort of government-sponsored censorship as the years progress and they adapt to the threat that instant global communication brings.

I wonder if the residents of Turkey have seen this movie.

Now they blocked Youtube. Today 2 more videos about Syria war uploaded on Youtube.
Akp government lost their legitimacy, they planned to war on Syria for saving their asses.

Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-1GooSDwJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm7eg0-IjlI

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57620732-38/twitter-battle-in-turkey-heats-up-spreads-to-youtube-reports/

Do the US / EU have the balls to impose sanctions on Erdogan?

Oh... I forgot... Turkey is the backbone of NATO.

Somebody said they also blocked Google DNS, I couldn't test it though.

Banning Twitter really backfired on them..

I think the same thing will happen with Facebook, if they do decide to attempt to ban it.

This site is way better for getting started to view dot-bit addresses.

http://meowbit.com

you'll need a namecion wallet first:

http://name coin.info/

on the meowbit.com site there are instructions for registering your own dot-bit address. 

now trying to get this info to people in turkey is another matter, any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Can Namecoin's dot-bit domain registery be helpful in maintaining freedom of speech over the internet in turkey?  It's kind of technical for the average user, but would be cool to see more people using it for what it is meant.  I'm just kind of getting into this today myself, but if anyone feels like helping out, I'd be down for making this info more readily available for these folks. 

I was thinking of making a dot-bit address with a blog.  I'm not very technical myself, but I'm learning.  I'd rather do something like this today than just watching BTC prices go down and thinking about my cex account.  Let me know what's up, if anyone wants to help out here.  I'm thinking of a site, or at least a post that will list what all someone needs for a name coin wallet and instructions on how to view and register dot-bit addresses. 

Here is the website I'm starting with. 

http://www.gcnlive.com/CMS/index.php/component/k2/281-quick-guide-to-browsing-drone-proof-dot-bit-domains/281-quick-guide-to-browsing-drone-proof-dot-bit-domains

hope to hear from some peeps, cheers.

Turkey’s Twitter ban backfires: Tweets up 138%, VPN usage up, topic trends




After banning Twitter last night, the actions of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan have failed spectacularly.

Immediately following Turkey’s ban, Twitter issued an SMS workaround. Then, ”#TwitterisblockedinTurkey” became a globally trending topic on Twitter. Into the night, usage of Google’s free DNS service exploded to circumvent the blockage of Twitter’s domain. Now, social media analysis firms Brandwatch and We Are Social report that Turkish tweets last night and this morning are up by a massive 138 percent.

The following graph, provided by Brandwatch, shows the rise in tweets from 2 A.M. to 12 P.M. (Turkish CET).



Turkish users collectively tweeted 2.5 million times since the ban went into effect, potentially “setting new records for Twitter use in the country,” according to a different study reported by the Guardian.

Fanning the flames, usage of virtual private networks (VPNs) in Turkey appears to be up significantly. ZenMate, for example — a security and privacy extension for Google Chrome — reports it saw “25,000 visitors from Turkey to the Chrome store in the last 12 hours.” Similarly, VPN provider Hotspot Shield saw an uptick in usage on iOS, and is now the top Android app in the Google Play store in Turkey.

Studies such as the above serve only as rough guidelines and are limited by sample size. Collectively, however, the reports make for strong evidence that Erdogan has failed to enact an effective country-wide ban on Twitter.


http://venturebeat.com/2014/03/21/turkeys-twitter-ban-backfires-tweets-up-138-vpn-usage-up-topic-trends/

On one hand I hate FB for their spying CIA affiliations, on the other wouldn't like to see it banned. People should be allowed to choose to register or not. If a someone wants to play stupid facebook games whole day, his choice!

Turkey has blocked Twitter hours after embattled Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan threatened to close it down ahead of a key election, after audio recordings purportedly demonstrating corruption among his associates were posted on the social network.

Just before midnight, access to the social network was blocked, Hurriyet Daily reports.

“We now have a court order. We will wipe out Twitter,” the Islamist-leaning leader told a crowd of adulating supporters during a campaign rally in the northwestern city of Bursa on Thursday, AFP reported.

“I don't care what the international community says. They will see the Turkish republic's strength," Erdogan added.

Multiple recordings have emerged not just on Twitter, but also on Facebook and YouTube, purportedly showing Erdogan – whose AK Party dominates the parliament – illegally meddling in political, legal, business, and media affairs.

In one recording, he instructs his son to hide tens of millions of euros worth of cash in the house. In another, he tells off an editor of a major newspaper for producing negative coverage. Erdogan has dismissed most of the recordings as “vile fakes.”

The leader also threatened to shut down Facebook – which is used by 35 million Turks – last month.

Largely in response to the stream of revelations, a new law was passed last month that allows websites to be taken down without a court order, on grounds of reported “privacy violations.”

The run-up to the local elections on March 30 – which will be followed by parliamentary and presidential polls – has been marked by constant rancour, with allegations of fraud adding to the protests over corruption and the suppression of political and civil freedoms from the opposition.

But the AK Party, which has been in power since 2002, is set to maintain its supremacy, if polls are to be believed.

http://rt.com/news/erdogan-wipe-out-twitter-181/

Today Prime Ministry said that they have no choice but closing Twitter.
They try to hide the biggest theft in republic history, but now everybody know how Erdogan stole more than 1 billion $ and gave kill orders on innocent people. Organise crime party Akp is collapsing.

Yes of course. Not sure a fart app based on a prophet in some countries would be too popular anywhere as Apple would not accept it anywhere (offensive). Does not matter if you have a youtube app on your smart phone as it would not be able to communicate to the youtube server if blocked.

Whatever they do, people will always find a way around it.

PS. would this ban work on apps aswell?

10 Countries That Have Blocked YouTube


http://youtu.be/0tk5xZFBwho

Ok, I can access YouTube now. This channel have records: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTSsQGmADzagJRlPnpe-FXw
I also can see this account that has videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/bascalan

I'm trying to find English subtitle versions, if somebody make it I'll share.

This account has been terminated due to repeated or severe violations of our Community Guidelines and/or claims of copyright infringement.
That was fast.

An english subbed version of it would be great

Youtube is closed (probably temporary) right now. 5-6 hours before we had access. But thief prime minister try to close it permanently, his crypto phone records showed that he stole more than 1 billion dollars.

These accounts have phone records:
http://www.youtube.com/user/haramzadeler/videos
http://www.youtube.com/user/bascalan/videos

From wikipedia:


But god knows how accurate this information is , with all the editing on the wiki.
Ups , god and Turks know , sorry for that

They aren't already? Turkey doesn't sound like the type of place to allow any kind of free speech.

Ban twitter , facebook  and the others like it (not youtube). You'll see that it will turn better for that country.

Facebook is no big concern, imo, but YouTube does do some good.

More then that YouTube and Facebook may soon be banned in many other countries too!

They try to ban Youtube because their theft videos are shared via Youtube and most of the Turkish people use Facebook to communicate. They try to cut communication. This fascist thief government sold every Turkish resources to foreign capitalists and their partisan businessmen and they fucked up Turkish economy.
PM is the biggest liar and mob in whole republic history. They are using Goebbels' propaganda tactics.
Only PM has more than $1 billion personal stash. They stole from us (all Turkish citizens).

These Youtube accounts spread phone records about malpractice/bribe.
http://www.youtube.com/user/bascalan
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4rxwFZIpbb0rDALbwneeTA

Check out Gezi resistance thread which started May 31st 2013: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/occupy-taksim-222723

All porn-related sites have already been banned in Turkey.

Turkey prime minister




Guess I've been online way too long. 

Looks like facebook and youtube could have only been invented in the US, based on some of the replies so far...

Almost makes America look like a great place...hmmm.

Have they banned YouPorn ?

If you don't like it, don't use it!

There are the so called NGOs, these bastards who start war against everything we love.
NGOs are not part of a democratic process, websites owned by the Lord of evil himself too.

Banning YouTube and Facebook, and asking to bypass the democratic process to ban any website, are two extremely different intentions; the first does not necessarily imply the second.

But even getting past that, what sort of culture must Turkey have where open information is a threat?  If what Socrates said was true, that the greatest good is knowledge and the greatest evil ignorance, then Turkey, as many nations seek, wishes to commit the worst act imaginable by preventing knowledge and encouraging ignorance.  This is a big step toward the total state, and if the people of Turkey don't start pushing back, they'll experience the punishment for political negligence, as the N. Koreans can attest.

some nice videos but mostly they are not good for many societies,religious and countries

Yes, that´s right. Both were made to drive the peoples of the world to insanitiy.

But on the tube there some nice videos, i have to say.

In our country YouTube already ban and now hope soon we have some restrictions for face book also because they are not going good

I wish someone would ban Facebook in the UK - a million dull people thinking that picking their nose is a happening 

“We will not leave this nation at the mercy of YouTube and Facebook.” — Turkey prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan

The prime minister of Turkey is looking to pass legislation that will allow the government to block websites without a court order, reports the Wall Street Journal.

The purpose of Erdogan’s potential law, WSJ claims, is to stop “leaked audio recordings online purportedly revealing corruption in his inner circle.” The key targets of this proposed legislation are YouTube and Facebook.

When asked if an entire ban may occur, Erdogan reportedly confirmed its potential to Turkish-based broadcaster ATV, saying “yes, closure included.”

This ban is not yet in place, but the risk is real: Turkey has blocked numerous social networks in the past, including Twitter and Facebook, with bans as recent as mid 2013. This history in Turkey of a willingness to block social media makes Erdogan’s statements all the more dire.

http://venturebeat.com/2014/03/07/youtube-and-facebook-may-soon-be-banned-in-turkey/