YouTube Binance impostor: what is happening right now?

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Quote from: Thekool1s on February 13, 2020, 05:39:30 PM

@Kryptqnick the ones I reported are gone... Checked from another Google Account. However, I do see a new stream on one of the channels https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2Cl2g2xFTZoAEldxYVzQFg/videos It's a shame even after reporting them that the account was hacked they haven't suspended its ability to Livestream. This is something they can definitely work on, Why just take the video down when you know the account is hacked, Just lock it away till its restored to its original owner... smdh...

Yeah, maybe those particular videos are gone but when I access the links you've attached to that post about reporting them, I can see both accounts, and on one of them in a live broadcast that is still working just as if nothing happened. Here, I'll attach some screenshots...
In any case, the fact that even though it's known that it's a scam, that the account has been hacked and everything, live broadcast is still possible - that's a major downside which nearly renders the efforts of reporting the channels useless...

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I think the lack of a real substantive presence that Binance has on YouTube makes it easier for these scams to go on. A simple search on YouTube shows that there are live streams that are trying to look like binance accounts but, yeah, that's the ultimate motivation in that someone will send in their Bitcoin to a wallet or send them to Telegram and people will be fleeced out of their money. I do see that the one that's live streaming has 1.1 K fake followers in about 300 fake up votes and the link is to a telegram where I assumed they purport to be Binance as well.

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@Kryptqnick the ones I reported are gone... Checked from another Google Account. However, I do see a new stream on one of the channels https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2Cl2g2xFTZoAEldxYVzQFg/videos It's a shame even after reporting them that the account was hacked they haven't suspended its ability to Livestream. This is something they can definitely work on, Why just take the video down when you know the account is hacked, Just lock it away till its restored to its original owner... smdh...

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Quote from: Thekool1s on February 12, 2020, 11:54:24 AM

They took it down pretty fast iyam... Within 2 hours both of the videos I reported have been removed. Considering they would get hundreds of thousands of reports, 2 hours to review isn't bad... They also took down other videos with the similar titles which I didn't even report. So it looks like we can do our part. Just report them and leave a detailed comment and the videos should go down.

These two channels were the ones I reported:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2Cl2g2xFTZoAEldxYVzQFg/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/antonioeafsi/videos

@buwaytress That only applies on AdWords you can still upload content on Youtube, Rank keywords on Google if they are crypto-related, You just can't advertise on Adwords which too isn't enforced properly, Also it's not a 100% fool-proof system I have seen many ads which seem to have by-pass their apparent ban. Google AdWords, however, do allow ads from "Regulated exchanges" I dunno wtf is that supposed to mean or how does one become Regulated with Google, Only they are allowed to advertise their business with Google.

It's great that they are taking some videos down, but it seems that these methods aren't very effective. I cannot come up with a better one, but it does not mean that what we have is okay. If you do as much as just type 'Binance' on youtube right now, the first four videos you'll see (sorted automatically by relevance) are 4 scammy live broadcasts in a row. Each is these broadcasts has thousands of viewers (maybe they're bought, I don't know, but look bad to me) right now, and it's been a couple of days since this thing started, I personally reported it to a live support chat worker that said that this will be forwarded to the security team specifically, you guys and many others probably reported the videos already, and yet the scammers successfully continue their activities.

Edit: You know what? I've just accessed your links and the videos are showing just fine to me! Interesting! Maybe I did not report these specific channels (although I guess I did), and Youtube is being diplomatic, not showing these videos to you since you clearly don't want to see them but also not really blocking them for other people! Are they still unavailable on your side?

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on February 10, 2020, 06:09:55 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on February 10, 2020, 03:39:29 PM

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Recently? I wonder how hard it is to get your Youtube account hacked--I guess it depends on whatever your password is (the obvious answer) and how easy it is to recover it once it is hacked. I wasn't aware that this was becoming a problem, but maybe I've had the naive belief that it would be hard to pull off a hack/scam on Youtube. Makes me wonder if this is at least somewhat in response to Youtube's banning of crypto videos not too long ago.

Google is connected with Youtube, right? I guess I should provide additional security to my email there.
I am not sure if these hacks are true, but another theory could be the creation of dummy channels while using subscriber, comment, and like bots making it look like a legitimate and true channel of some platform.

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More and more cases of YouTube accounts get hacked and streaming binance to fool people who do not know this. Every time the livestream shows on my homepage I usually report the account directly to get banned immediately within a few hours because this is very unsettling.

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They took it down pretty fast iyam... Within 2 hours both of the videos I reported have been removed. Considering they would get hundreds of thousands of reports, 2 hours to review isn't bad... They also took down other videos with the similar titles which I didn't even report. So it looks like we can do our part. Just report them and leave a detailed comment and the videos should go down.

These two channels were the ones I reported:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2Cl2g2xFTZoAEldxYVzQFg/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/antonioeafsi/videos

@buwaytress That only applies on AdWords you can still upload content on Youtube, Rank keywords on Google if they are crypto-related, You just can't advertise on Adwords which too isn't enforced properly, Also it's not a 100% fool-proof system I have seen many ads which seem to have by-pass their apparent ban. Google AdWords, however, do allow ads from "Regulated exchanges" I dunno wtf is that supposed to mean or how does one become Regulated with Google, Only they are allowed to advertise their business with Google.

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Wow. I know all kinds of hanky panky goes on with YT and other accounts getting hacked but this is some level of scammery I've to admit I'm new to. Streaming giveaways is a thing? Though it's not a giveaway if you have to give something to get something back.

Crypto advertising soliciting funds is an auto ban on Google isn't it? I know it isn't a blind ban but haven't needed it to find out but surprised these don't get taken down faster.

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It's common sense. You just take a short look at the list of livestreams impersonating Binance and within a minute you'd get the idea that it's a scam. Let's not victimize Google.

I kinda agree with you but we do have to keep in mind that Youtube moderation is also done by humans. I did end up reporting the livestreams and i got this ^{( see image below )} message each time I reported. While it says the moderation is a constant process it doesn't say anything about how long it might take. So far it has been around an hour and both of the livestreams I reported are still up, I will update this post if there is any change in their status. What I find interesting is these both livestreams are in being streamed in a "restricted mode" ^{( 2nd image )}. Dunno why the scammers would want that, As they’d want as many people as they can to watch their stream. I guess they did it to not allow users to comments on the live chat.

Also, I couldn't find anything related to how many reports does it takes for a video to be taken down, I don't think a single report does the trick on youtube. It has to be multiple reports I believe to make youtube take an action against a video unless it's a copyright claim. Anyway, I will see how things go from here...

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Quote from: 1Referee on February 11, 2020, 05:00:25 AM

After what happened with the crypto content creators on youtube recently (channels getting striked etc) I do believe that it will take longer and longer before those streams are taken down. Crypto related videos on youtube are getting falsely reported a lot, either by scammers or competing altcoins or content creators, which means that Google has to spend time analyzing the reports manually.

If Google yet again ends up taking (but now serious) action against those scam streams in an automated fashion by their algorithm, I'm pretty sure that they will affect even the non scammy crypto content. In other words, there will only be losers.

I still think that people just need to understand that free money doesn't exist. Sending 0.1BTC to someone that promises you to send 0.5BTC back is just retarded.

Oh come on, if I put up a livestream calling out people to send me $5 in order to receive $50 in return, I bet it would be taken down within minutes.

I feel like Google is so strongly against crypto while pretending to help and support the community. Otherwise, if they cared enough, these lives would be shut down almost as soon as they're up and crypto-related vids wouldn't have been deleted.

It's common sense. You just take a short look at the list of livestreams impersonating Binance and within a minute you'd get the idea that it's a scam. Let's not victimize Google.

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Quote from: 1Referee on February 11, 2020, 05:00:25 AM

Quote from: 20kevin20 on February 11, 2020, 02:56:15 AM

I just wonder when the hell is Google going to take action and stop these streams.

After what happened with the crypto content creators on youtube recently (channels getting striked etc) I do believe that it will take longer and longer before those streams are taken down. Crypto related videos on youtube are getting falsely reported a lot, either by scammers or competing altcoins or content creators, which means that Google has to spend time analyzing the reports manually.

Yeah, it's also a problem... I think it's rather easy to draw a line between scam and non-scam (if a person's asking to deposit money to a wallet for something greater in return, it's a scam). But algorithms might not be good at distinguishing different cases. The live transactions are still on, and there are still thousands watching them. This 'verified account' thing is very smart, it makes the scam more truth-like. After all, sometimes casinos, for instance, do offer deposit bonuses that might look like the same scheme...

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on February 10, 2020, 06:09:55 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on February 10, 2020, 03:39:29 PM

there have been thousands of youtube accounts being hacked and taken over by the hackers and posting crypto related stuff like fake giveaways.

Recently? I wonder how hard it is to get your Youtube account hacked--I guess it depends on whatever your password is (the obvious answer) and how easy it is to recover it once it is hacked. I wasn't aware that this was becoming a problem, but maybe I've had the naive belief that it would be hard to pull off a hack/scam on Youtube. Makes me wonder if this is at least somewhat in response to Youtube's banning of crypto videos not too long ago.

You can read it here: Security Warning For 23 Million YouTube Creators Following ‘Massive’ Hack Attack.

It was reported as early as September 2019, and then after that we have seen hundreds if not thousands of fake give-aways on Youtube after that.

Thanks, I did not know it was that common! I've never seen an account getting hijacked like that and used for scamming, especially on Youtube. Unfortunately, it seems that there's nothing Binance can do, because it's been a day since this scam started, and the scammers are still broadcasting.

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Quote from: 20kevin20 on February 11, 2020, 02:56:15 AM

I just wonder when the hell is Google going to take action and stop these streams.

After what happened with the crypto content creators on youtube recently (channels getting striked etc) I do believe that it will take longer and longer before those streams are taken down. Crypto related videos on youtube are getting falsely reported a lot, either by scammers or competing altcoins or content creators, which means that Google has to spend time analyzing the reports manually.

If Google yet again ends up taking (but now serious) action against those scam streams in an automated fashion by their algorithm, I'm pretty sure that they will affect even the non scammy crypto content. In other words, there will only be losers.

I still think that people just need to understand that free money doesn't exist. Sending 0.1BTC to someone that promises you to send 0.5BTC back is just retarded.

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The scammers become too smart now because of they are finding new ways to cheat people to utilizing the binance fame and binance name. So better to stay away from those kind of giveaway because binance is not going to runs any giveaway through YouTube and you can cross check the details about their official website for genuine giveaways.

The binance gives official announcement on Twitter regarding this issue.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on February 10, 2020, 06:09:55 PM

Oh crap. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but damn. Who in their right mind would send bitcoin to an address in a Youtube video, even if the channel is claiming to be that of Binance? Hopefully that didn't represent the person's life savings.

For some people it's enough to see the little check next to a name to believe the channel is legit. I wouldn't send my money to a giveaway, it's against the common sense. If you want to do a giveaway, it makes no sense to make me pay for it.

Anyways, this is sad because too many are still falling victims for it and these hackers still find ways to proceed with their scams and make people trust them. Without the necessary education to find out what's legit and what isn't, falling victims to them is easy.

I just wonder when the hell is Google going to take action and stop these streams.

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Quote from: mk4 on February 10, 2020, 10:02:22 PM

Though this is wishful thinking and that chances are definitely low, I like to think that the 0.2 BTC transaction was a transaction made by the scammers(I truly hope) as to hopefully convince people.

That still doesn't explain the rest of the money though. As kevin mentioned, the scammer(s) have collected a lot of money at this point, so some people do fall for their tricks.

I guess they fall for the 'verified' mark. That shows how some people lose their awareness of scam when they 'believed' at something even if it's too good to be true.

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I think not only YouTube has imposter. Many social medium platform has been impersonating Binance ever since and the address were that 0.2btc was sent obviously their dummy account

Quote from: mk4 on February 10, 2020, 10:02:22 PM

I like to think that the 0.2 BTC transaction was a transaction made by the scammers(I truly hope) as to hopefully convince people.

I definitely agree with you. To make things real they should have done this and doing a realistic approach is the better way to let those victim the giveaway is real. I just really hope this is the reason and not someone else hard earned money.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on February 10, 2020, 06:09:55 PM

Quote from: 20kevin20 on February 10, 2020, 03:57:26 PM

Someone just sent a 0.2BTC tx to the address they've placed in the video.

Oh crap. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but damn. Who in their right mind would send bitcoin to an address in a Youtube video, even if the channel is claiming to be that of Binance? Hopefully that didn't represent the person's life savings.

Though this is wishful thinking and that chances are definitely low, I like to think that the 0.2 BTC transaction was a transaction made by the scammers(I truly hope) as to hopefully convince people.

Anyway, this is like the Twitter scams in the past again; just with a different platform, and somewhat more convincing in my opinion. Truly sucks, but once again, this is going to be a hard lesson for a good number of people.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on February 10, 2020, 06:09:55 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on February 10, 2020, 03:39:29 PM

there have been thousands of youtube accounts being hacked and taken over by the hackers and posting crypto related stuff like fake giveaways.

Recently? I wonder how hard it is to get your Youtube account hacked--I guess it depends on whatever your password is (the obvious answer) and how easy it is to recover it once it is hacked. I wasn't aware that this was becoming a problem, but maybe I've had the naive belief that it would be hard to pull off a hack/scam on Youtube. Makes me wonder if this is at least somewhat in response to Youtube's banning of crypto videos not too long ago.

You can read it here: Security Warning For 23 Million YouTube Creators Following ‘Massive’ Hack Attack.

It was reported as early as September 2019, and then after that we have seen hundreds if not thousands of fake give-aways on Youtube after that.

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@The Pharmacist, Unless you have a million subs or something near to that you can basically forget about the recovery of the channel, Youtube accounts are brand accounts as I said before, what this means is that you own the account but you can be removed from the ownership if someone else gets access to your account. So you will get your Google account back but if the hackers removed you from the owner list when you got hacked then you can consider that channel pretty much gone as youtube doesn't get involved in recovering those. Unless you have contacts high above in Youtube Support who can reverse the ownership transfer, these people are pretty much out of luck...

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I guess their motive is to destroy the reputation of binance as well as hacking, create FUD. Why not hack binance directly? because they cant. Wise users will not fall for this always check official social media from their website usually located at the bottom. And those transactions on their wallets it is possible that some of it are fake, sending a fund to their own wallet to lure people to make it look real.

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