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Topic: 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ zazarb's Quick-Loans & Escrow 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ - page 290. (Read 411402 times)

legendary
Activity: 3122
Merit: 1398
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Thanks.

Loan Amount: BTC0.05
Reason for Taking out a Loan: Backup funds for tomorrow's trip. It's really sucks when your payday falls on weekend.
Amount to be repaid: You decide on this for a 3 day loan. Doesn't have an idea.
Repayment Date: Feb. 1 ; Monday or much early if Bit-X will pay exactly on 31st.
Type of Collateral: If applicable, No collateral. I will not ruined my beloved account for a small amount.
Bitcoin Address: 1BYqraCdxn5oBqawZKyNn8sTPSAre12Htt (web wallet. sign message isn't available)

Signed message available from my old address.

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is harizen from bitcointalk. Requesting a loan from zazarb. Today is January 29,2016.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1NeTHcyt2SzvUZhiZNW8kTabdSeSWyVpsT
HO6f4LLWOSf+Ep7SCAcB6N7bB5kkQjq37FfIAJccy0Ak9sgRfYqVYxoIpr7MQVKwnmwahuPSztoWp6Agxqf1w4Y=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Original Thread : HERE

verified: http://coinig.com/?adr=1NeTHcyt2SzvUZhiZNW8kTabdSeSWyVpsT&msg=This+is+harizen+from+bitcointalk.+Requesting+a+loan+from+zazarb.+Today+is+January+29%2C2016.&sig=HO6f4LLWOSf%2BEp7SCAcB6N7bB5kkQjq37FfIAJccy0Ak9sgRfYqVYxoIpr7MQVKwnmwahuPSztoWp6Agxqf1w4Y%3D

and sent at de79279d0e98de92c22c323d6ce6f5ca902e6e0eceace722306fa11e5cbb898c

Repayment address:
1AxyPdVoRVkita9fnqCYaYZgssKvbzEpbL
Please pay untill 04/02/2016


CONFIRM!

Thanks mate.
legendary
Activity: 3584
Merit: 1548
Get loan in just five minutes goo.gl/8WMW6n
Thanks.

Loan Amount: BTC0.05
Reason for Taking out a Loan: Backup funds for tomorrow's trip. It's really sucks when your payday falls on weekend.
Amount to be repaid: You decide on this for a 3 day loan. Doesn't have an idea.
Repayment Date: Feb. 1 ; Monday or much early if Bit-X will pay exactly on 31st.
Type of Collateral: If applicable, No collateral. I will not ruined my beloved account for a small amount.
Bitcoin Address: 1BYqraCdxn5oBqawZKyNn8sTPSAre12Htt (web wallet. sign message isn't available)

Signed message available from my old address.

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is harizen from bitcointalk. Requesting a loan from zazarb. Today is January 29,2016.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1NeTHcyt2SzvUZhiZNW8kTabdSeSWyVpsT
HO6f4LLWOSf+Ep7SCAcB6N7bB5kkQjq37FfIAJccy0Ak9sgRfYqVYxoIpr7MQVKwnmwahuPSztoWp6Agxqf1w4Y=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Original Thread : HERE

verified: http://coinig.com/?adr=1NeTHcyt2SzvUZhiZNW8kTabdSeSWyVpsT&msg=This+is+harizen+from+bitcointalk.+Requesting+a+loan+from+zazarb.+Today+is+January+29%2C2016.&sig=HO6f4LLWOSf%2BEp7SCAcB6N7bB5kkQjq37FfIAJccy0Ak9sgRfYqVYxoIpr7MQVKwnmwahuPSztoWp6Agxqf1w4Y%3D

and sent at de79279d0e98de92c22c323d6ce6f5ca902e6e0eceace722306fa11e5cbb898c

Repayment address:
1AxyPdVoRVkita9fnqCYaYZgssKvbzEpbL
Please pay untill 01/02/2016
legendary
Activity: 3122
Merit: 1398
For support ➡️ help.bc.game
Thanks.

Loan Amount: BTC0.05
Reason for Taking out a Loan: Backup funds for tomorrow's trip. It's really sucks when your payday falls on weekend.
Amount to be repaid: You decide on this for a 3 day loan. Doesn't have an idea.
Repayment Date: Feb. 1 ; Monday or much early if Bit-X will pay exactly on 31st.
Type of Collateral: If applicable, No collateral. I will not ruined my beloved account for a small amount.
Bitcoin Address: 1BYqraCdxn5oBqawZKyNn8sTPSAre12Htt (web wallet. sign message isn't available)

Signed message available from my old address.

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is harizen from bitcointalk. Requesting a loan from zazarb. Today is January 29,2016.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1NeTHcyt2SzvUZhiZNW8kTabdSeSWyVpsT
HO6f4LLWOSf+Ep7SCAcB6N7bB5kkQjq37FfIAJccy0Ak9sgRfYqVYxoIpr7MQVKwnmwahuPSztoWp6Agxqf1w4Y=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Original Thread : HERE
legendary
Activity: 3584
Merit: 1548
Get loan in just five minutes goo.gl/8WMW6n
Loan Amount:.1
Reason for Taking out a Loan:blow n dope/b]
Amount to be repaid: .12
Repayment Date:1 month
Type of Collateral:dis account
Bitcoin Address:1anduis
If you have clams id gladly accept them

Sig:
Signature:
HJdoWAAffMdVgGUeeaTm6eNJIwRxXVCfjJYlOgSarIo1AS4YPmfCFZUi9nBvquaIEMHHmkmXx49IWZw XNl2l+DY=
verified http://coinig.com/?adr=1anduisJPbwTUxNyf78nVcri45cm2hgfk&msg=I+am+andulolika+from+bitcointalk.org%2C+today+is+26%2F01%2F2016.+I+am+asking+for+a+loan+from+zazarb+with+my+account+andulolika+as+collateral.+If+I+default+my+loan%2C+zazarb+will+be+the+new+owner+of+my+account.&sig=HJdoWAAffMdVgGUeeaTm6eNJIwRxXVCfjJYlOgSarIo1AS4YPmfCFZUi9nBvquaIEMHHmkmXx49IWZwXNl2l%2BDY%3D

45clam sent
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 1048
Loan Amount:.1
Reason for Taking out a Loan:blow n dope/b]
Amount to be repaid: .12
Repayment Date:1 month
Type of Collateral:dis account
Bitcoin Address:1anduis
If you have clams id gladly accept them

Sig:
Signature:
HJdoWAAffMdVgGUeeaTm6eNJIwRxXVCfjJYlOgSarIo1AS4YPmfCFZUi9nBvquaIEMHHmkmXx49IWZw XNl2l+DY=
legendary
Activity: 3584
Merit: 1548
Get loan in just five minutes goo.gl/8WMW6n
Loan Amount:.1 btc sent directly in clam if possible.
Reason for Taking out a Loan:gambling
Amount to be repaid:.115
Repayment Date:2 weeks
Type of Collateral:this account
Bitcoin Address:1anduis or the clam address.
G1FTR4GmZgfgyIWf4kgiRUkpE3sXKfXLE0/kg+oT73R5SmBhfmcbP2CL9ePe0g+2gl5svbzD+NRTFLPBy5htzAE=
accepted
verified:
http://coinig.com/?adr=1anduisJPbwTUxNyf78nVcri45cm2hgfk&msg=I+am+andulolika+from+bitcointalk.org%2C+today+is+07%2F01%2F2016.+I+am+asking+for+a+loan+from+zazarb+with+my+account+andulolika+as+collateral.+If+I+default+my+loan%2C+zazarb+will+be+the+new+owner+of+my+account.&sig=G1FTR4GmZgfgyIWf4kgiRUkpE3sXKfXLE0%2Fkg%2BoT73R5SmBhfmcbP2CL9ePe0g%2B2gl5svbzD%2BNRTFLPBy5htzAE%3D

sent at fd8ec7a0eed006d2c8bbe5ef3431a69c4936ce9fe50be789d9e6e68e21a8a9d3

Repayment address:
1PKduV6MpDn2S25X4Mrej1TXDaxCX4k777
Repayment date extended until 25 January.
Thanks, i appreciate Smiley.

Loan full repaid  at tx/83775a3ca43d49299cb1419a81d7ffdfa8ee4514b919d4ef2513057c86b49e58
legendary
Activity: 3584
Merit: 1548
Get loan in just five minutes goo.gl/8WMW6n
Loan Amount: .150
Reason for Taking out a Loan:personal
Amount to be repaid: .165
Repayment Date:feb 4th
Type of Collateral:none
Bitcoin Address:1LiwxmZC1v3d5J7XeMT4c8FKpuJwV3QjqH


looking for a 2 week loan. not gonna risk my rep over a small amount. Will most likely pay back early but gave myself 2 weeks just in case


Address:
1LiwxmZC1v3d5J7XeMT4c8FKpuJwV3QjqH

Message:
I yahoo62278 Am taking a loan from zazarb of .150 with repayment of .165 due on feb 4th
Signature:
HwHGjfOjSOx+ebUQ116jOOv4E4+27u+9LyxfdKmeuUw9dRJCe3ml9OhKAweyj1g/Vu64cGYardAtv9myaKuNUyI=
accepted
sent at txID 5a53ecddbbc7920366036b8bffe8993d2bee9fce5883f37b9cf9300220623fc9

Repayment address:
1AxyPdVoRVkita9fnqCYaYZgssKvbzEpbL
Please pay untill 04/02/2016


Oops.! I've filled this loan in PM .
Loan transaction -> https://blockchain.info/tx/7f5c89420e332fd9c1f311b3fb5a201598ec4c8915b9eef8350431043e508861

Repay on time to -> 18kW8q61si6KnhBGMtj8PfJs8Zhrsrux3A

P.S. yahoo could you confirm?
repaid you as well   https://blockchain.info/tx/43be52e9a5b4a9753653b4271b5ce4b8a9af462a46375d964f6c981c1ac5e221
thanks, I confirmed that receive full amount + interest. Just you typed wrong transaction , correct this:
 https://blockchain.info/tx/0bb4619981e9fcb3bec44c501956a1d8be47011517883106be4af12d9cb4ad54
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
Oops.! I've filled this loan in PM .
Loan transaction -> https://blockchain.info/tx/7f5c89420e332fd9c1f311b3fb5a201598ec4c8915b9eef8350431043e508861

Repay on time to -> 18kW8q61si6KnhBGMtj8PfJs8Zhrsrux3A

P.S. yahoo could you confirm?
repaid you as well   https://blockchain.info/tx/43be52e9a5b4a9753653b4271b5ce4b8a9af462a46375d964f6c981c1ac5e221
Yep, I'd confirm that I've received the repayment from yahoo. Thanks for the tip & early repayment!
legendary
Activity: 3850
Merit: 4674
Contact @yahoo62278 on telegram for marketing
Loan Amount: .150
Reason for Taking out a Loan:personal
Amount to be repaid: .165
Repayment Date:feb 4th
Type of Collateral:none
Bitcoin Address:1LiwxmZC1v3d5J7XeMT4c8FKpuJwV3QjqH


looking for a 2 week loan. not gonna risk my rep over a small amount. Will most likely pay back early but gave myself 2 weeks just in case


Address:
1LiwxmZC1v3d5J7XeMT4c8FKpuJwV3QjqH

Message:
I yahoo62278 Am taking a loan from zazarb of .150 with repayment of .165 due on feb 4th
Signature:
HwHGjfOjSOx+ebUQ116jOOv4E4+27u+9LyxfdKmeuUw9dRJCe3ml9OhKAweyj1g/Vu64cGYardAtv9myaKuNUyI=
accepted
sent at txID 5a53ecddbbc7920366036b8bffe8993d2bee9fce5883f37b9cf9300220623fc9

Repayment address:
1AxyPdVoRVkita9fnqCYaYZgssKvbzEpbL
Please pay untill 04/02/2016


Oops.! I've filled this loan in PM .
Loan transaction -> https://blockchain.info/tx/7f5c89420e332fd9c1f311b3fb5a201598ec4c8915b9eef8350431043e508861

Repay on time to -> 18kW8q61si6KnhBGMtj8PfJs8Zhrsrux3A

P.S. yahoo could you confirm?
repaid you as well   https://blockchain.info/tx/43be52e9a5b4a9753653b4271b5ce4b8a9af462a46375d964f6c981c1ac5e221
legendary
Activity: 3850
Merit: 4674
Contact @yahoo62278 on telegram for marketing
Loan Amount: .150
Reason for Taking out a Loan:personal
Amount to be repaid: .165
Repayment Date:feb 4th
Type of Collateral:none
Bitcoin Address:1LiwxmZC1v3d5J7XeMT4c8FKpuJwV3QjqH


looking for a 2 week loan. not gonna risk my rep over a small amount. Will most likely pay back early but gave myself 2 weeks just in case


Address:
1LiwxmZC1v3d5J7XeMT4c8FKpuJwV3QjqH

Message:
I yahoo62278 Am taking a loan from zazarb of .150 with repayment of .165 due on feb 4th
Signature:
HwHGjfOjSOx+ebUQ116jOOv4E4+27u+9LyxfdKmeuUw9dRJCe3ml9OhKAweyj1g/Vu64cGYardAtv9myaKuNUyI=
accepted
sent at txID 5a53ecddbbc7920366036b8bffe8993d2bee9fce5883f37b9cf9300220623fc9

Repayment address:
1AxyPdVoRVkita9fnqCYaYZgssKvbzEpbL
Please pay untill 04/02/2016


repaid thx man https://blockchain.info/tx/0bb4619981e9fcb3bec44c501956a1d8be47011517883106be4af12d9cb4ad54
legendary
Activity: 3584
Merit: 1548
Get loan in just five minutes goo.gl/8WMW6n
Loan Amount: .05
Reason for Taking out a Loan: gambling
Amount to be repaid: .06
Repayment Date: On or Before Monday, February 1st, 2016
Type of Collateral: see message
Bitcoin Address: 15Bm2D66PMMDimUcbY7WFydvCLV8VjELE1
Message:I am Southpaw0 from bitcointalk.org, today is January 24th, 2016. I am asking for a loan from zazarb with my account  as collateral. If I default my loan, zazarb will be the new owner of my account.
Signature:G5U2/F6Ujdj77lw7CKip5W/3AZ47igFgpjMkU/j4tltwQjlzP8qia7rsem3ZonnTODofq7V8cJOQHH6FLGhpZDU=
verified and accepted
http://coinig.com/?adr=15Bm2D66PMMDimUcbY7WFydvCLV8VjELE1&msg=I+am+Southpaw0+from+bitcointalk.org%2C+today+is+January+24th%2C+2016.+I+am+asking+for+a+loan+from+zazarb+with+my+account++as+collateral.+If+I+default+my+loan%2C+zazarb+will+be+the+new+owner+of+my+account.&sig=G5U2%2FF6Ujdj77lw7CKip5W%2F3AZ47igFgpjMkU%2Fj4tltwQjlzP8qia7rsem3ZonnTODofq7V8cJOQHH6FLGhpZDU%3D

sent at txId c5f5ca11ae1e708ba520b5b83bcd204a433d1f7ba59eb3ad62a2d7fb80878a32

Repayment address:
1AxyPdVoRVkita9fnqCYaYZgssKvbzEpbL
Please pay untill 01/02/2016
legendary
Activity: 1318
Merit: 1010
666 - slave 2 the grind -
Loan Amount: .05
Reason for Taking out a Loan: gambling
Amount to be repaid: .06
Repayment Date: On or Before Monday, February 1st, 2016
Type of Collateral: see message
Bitcoin Address: 15Bm2D66PMMDimUcbY7WFydvCLV8VjELE1
Message:I am Southpaw0 from bitcointalk.org, today is January 24th, 2016. I am asking for a loan from zazarb with my account  as collateral. If I default my loan, zazarb will be the new owner of my account.
Signature:G5U2/F6Ujdj77lw7CKip5W/3AZ47igFgpjMkU/j4tltwQjlzP8qia7rsem3ZonnTODofq7V8cJOQHH6FLGhpZDU=
legendary
Activity: 3584
Merit: 1548
Get loan in just five minutes goo.gl/8WMW6n
Loan Amount: 0.002
Reason for Taking out a Loan: Currency exchange
Amount to be repaid: 0.0021
Repayment Date: 25-Jan-2016
Type of Collateral: this account
Bitcoin Address: 16wTgwurnPeS1U1GKEhvPsFMe1qSWujCdv
sorry, denied, I not accept this rank account as collateral.
legendary
Activity: 3584
Merit: 1548
Get loan in just five minutes goo.gl/8WMW6n
-----BEGIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am poplolnman from bitcointalk.org, today is 1/11/2016. I am asking for a loan from zazarb 0.12 bitcoin with my account poplolnman as collateral. If I default my loan, zazarb will be the new owner of my account + privkey from this btc address 1Hmk1R1wDxDERFiBvfdEVU4HJVy8DWdvNM repayment in 9 days
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
H6rU3UweiU638eA9E7f59P+XI3AnXXxU6U3OGIs/MAKBfRpRBBgwXX5LhjBZjNBZtrV+FKrVdxaTkudCRCuwVz4=
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

My bitcoin address 1Hmk1R1wDxDERFiBvfdEVU4HJVy8DWdvNM

Thanks in advance
accepted
btc sent at txID: 5f2563462fabcb10999f8b268dd951962c164b6616867da17071d982869dcfe1

Repayment address:
1AxyPdVoRVkita9fnqCYaYZgssKvbzEpbL
Please pay untill 20/01/2016
repayment date extended until 25 January.

repaid zazarb 8d3a792448005c2286abb026622023094768428f2052efdb16f3f5699e818f4a
thankyou very much , sorry for the small tip.
Confirmed as received. Thanks Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1008
-----BEGIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am poplolnman from bitcointalk.org, today is 1/11/2016. I am asking for a loan from zazarb 0.12 bitcoin with my account poplolnman as collateral. If I default my loan, zazarb will be the new owner of my account + privkey from this btc address 1Hmk1R1wDxDERFiBvfdEVU4HJVy8DWdvNM repayment in 9 days
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
H6rU3UweiU638eA9E7f59P+XI3AnXXxU6U3OGIs/MAKBfRpRBBgwXX5LhjBZjNBZtrV+FKrVdxaTkudCRCuwVz4=
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

My bitcoin address 1Hmk1R1wDxDERFiBvfdEVU4HJVy8DWdvNM

Thanks in advance
accepted
btc sent at txID: 5f2563462fabcb10999f8b268dd951962c164b6616867da17071d982869dcfe1

Repayment address:
1AxyPdVoRVkita9fnqCYaYZgssKvbzEpbL
Please pay untill 20/01/2016
repayment date extended until 25 January.

repaid zazarb 8d3a792448005c2286abb026622023094768428f2052efdb16f3f5699e818f4a
thankyou very much , sorry for the small tip.
legendary
Activity: 3584
Merit: 1548
Get loan in just five minutes goo.gl/8WMW6n
Hey z , just asking for another loan from you  Smiley

Loan Amount: .04
Reason for Taking out a Loan: sports betting
Amount to be repaid: .05
Repayment Date: On or Before Thursday, January 21st, 2016
Type of Collateral: see message
Bitcoin Address: 15Bm2D66PMMDimUcbY7WFydvCLV8VjELE1
Message:I am Southpaw0 from bitcointalk.org, today is January 14th, 2016. I am asking for a loan from zazarb with my account  as collateral. If I default my loan, zazarb will be the new owner of my account.
Signature:G83Xfi6JCagndAXNsyQHYU8pKgLrpg2nJIAfIHF3h2QaC5Nv0TwSH9JLICOhRDEek3pYJBIpSm7GvHP m/mWPTBw=
accepted
btc sent at txID: 4a8f695feca935740847d26273a131fe8114b34e0b2ab27e36a30622b0fcafd2

Repayment address:
1AxyPdVoRVkita9fnqCYaYZgssKvbzEpbL

Heres the .05 buddy Smiley

https://blockchain.info/tx/87cbb878cee6f28b32e140ec33667499f0eedf35dadaaed11cedaa25e72ba800

thanks zaza
confirmed, thanks buddy Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1318
Merit: 1010
666 - slave 2 the grind -
Hey z , just asking for another loan from you  Smiley

Loan Amount: .04
Reason for Taking out a Loan: sports betting
Amount to be repaid: .05
Repayment Date: On or Before Thursday, January 21st, 2016
Type of Collateral: see message
Bitcoin Address: 15Bm2D66PMMDimUcbY7WFydvCLV8VjELE1
Message:I am Southpaw0 from bitcointalk.org, today is January 14th, 2016. I am asking for a loan from zazarb with my account  as collateral. If I default my loan, zazarb will be the new owner of my account.
Signature:G83Xfi6JCagndAXNsyQHYU8pKgLrpg2nJIAfIHF3h2QaC5Nv0TwSH9JLICOhRDEek3pYJBIpSm7GvHP m/mWPTBw=
accepted
btc sent at txID: 4a8f695feca935740847d26273a131fe8114b34e0b2ab27e36a30622b0fcafd2

Repayment address:
1AxyPdVoRVkita9fnqCYaYZgssKvbzEpbL

Heres the .05 buddy Smiley

https://blockchain.info/tx/87cbb878cee6f28b32e140ec33667499f0eedf35dadaaed11cedaa25e72ba800

thanks zaza
legendary
Activity: 3584
Merit: 1548
Get loan in just five minutes goo.gl/8WMW6n
As talk in PM first installment of 0.06 send now next remaining 0.054 before next Monday thanks for this all

https://blockchain.info/tx/aa407afe042005c1c2072785c27b57f9b59f16350b951e8ce240f9a00f19a2ea

Man sorry for some delay just send you remaining amount with extra amount due to late send now waiting for your confirmation here thanks

remaining was 0.54 I send 0.055

https://blockchain.info/tx/9a9aa396c0cf6827ee0fbe130be46432c76cd9e14b2f1b048767bd2535009270
Confirmed as received. Thanks for tips.
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 500
As talk in PM first installment of 0.06 send now next remaining 0.054 before next Monday thanks for this all

https://blockchain.info/tx/aa407afe042005c1c2072785c27b57f9b59f16350b951e8ce240f9a00f19a2ea

Man sorry for some delay just send you remaining amount with extra amount due to late send now waiting for your confirmation here thanks

remaining was 0.54 I send 0.055

https://blockchain.info/tx/9a9aa396c0cf6827ee0fbe130be46432c76cd9e14b2f1b048767bd2535009270
legendary
Activity: 3850
Merit: 4674
Contact @yahoo62278 on telegram for marketing
Loan Amount: .150
Reason for Taking out a Loan:personal
Amount to be repaid: .165
Repayment Date:feb 4th
Type of Collateral:none
Bitcoin Address:1LiwxmZC1v3d5J7XeMT4c8FKpuJwV3QjqH


looking for a 2 week loan. not gonna risk my rep over a small amount. Will most likely pay back early but gave myself 2 weeks just in case


Address:
1LiwxmZC1v3d5J7XeMT4c8FKpuJwV3QjqH

Message:
I yahoo62278 Am taking a loan from zazarb of .150 with repayment of .165 due on feb 4th
Signature:
HwHGjfOjSOx+ebUQ116jOOv4E4+27u+9LyxfdKmeuUw9dRJCe3ml9OhKAweyj1g/Vu64cGYardAtv9myaKuNUyI=
accepted
sent at txID 5a53ecddbbc7920366036b8bffe8993d2bee9fce5883f37b9cf9300220623fc9

Repayment address:
1AxyPdVoRVkita9fnqCYaYZgssKvbzEpbL
Please pay untill 04/02/2016


Oops.! I've filled this loan in PM .
Loan transaction -> https://blockchain.info/tx/7f5c89420e332fd9c1f311b3fb5a201598ec4c8915b9eef8350431043e508861

Repay on time to -> 18kW8q61si6KnhBGMtj8PfJs8Zhrsrux3A

P.S. yahoo could you confirm?
confirming this request will stand as well. dont worry ill get you both before the 4th
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