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hero member
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DGbet.fun - Crypto Sportsbook
October 29, 2016, 11:54:58 PM
Zcash major drop it's now worth only 2btc a big loss for the people who invested yesterday

For sure they are crying now and  regretting that they  purchase  zcash on that  high  price point more than 2 btc.... This  coins would surely dump its price and   like many other coins out there  does have  high value when it launch and  then hardly dump. This  is  just  like a scam coin  for me. Luckily I didn't invest with this and  don't intend to  put money. No other   good  crypto  but  only bitcoin.
newbie
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October 29, 2016, 09:13:19 PM
Zcash major drop it's now worth only 2btc a big loss for the people who invested yesterday
legendary
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Monero Core Team
October 29, 2016, 04:16:40 PM
The ZCash reality. It has a market cap of 1.47 million USD, and is was ranked number 64 behind SuperNet and ahead of Pluton. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash/#charts

Edit: Corrected is to was since ZCash has plunged further.
legendary
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October 29, 2016, 01:47:52 PM
Why?

this really needs answering? it's the same number of coins as bitcoin ultimately. it has no usage. it's centralized. there might be security holes. if a few million were available right now the price would be more like 0.01. the only thing justifying any price is the near total lack of them.

He said he'll look at zcash at 0.1.
I was interested why anyone has a interest in that coin at any price Wink
For some days/weeks before i saw zcash by myself as a good speculation coin. But since my studies i figured out that I'll probably lose my money. That's why i decided to not trade this coin. Doesn't matter at what price. It is just not existing for me.
Zcash is based on new cryptographic research that is very exciting and will provide many use cases. It brings value. So for me it's a question of value proposition. Since the technology is new and untested, has no usage or adoption and just launched I think there's a mismatch between current price and what I value it. It is my belief that the price will stagnate for a very long time and my target is sub 0.1 BTC. Until that time Zcash is of very little interest speculation wise as there's little money to be made in the downward spiral (unless shorting becomes viable, however I think this will take a long time too).

Everyone can see that the lack of supply and current price is madness. Once the price settles down to reality, I will have to look closer. Will I buy? Probably not at 0.1 BTC, but until that price it's so overpriced that it's not worth paying attention to at all. Assuming no catastrophic failure (e.g critical bug), at some price point it will likely be undervalued, and that is when I will buy.

Most altcoins even the scammiest ones still have value to this day. Zcash has something to offer, just not at this price.
Exactly what he said^^^  (although, i cant resist scalping this, volume permitting)
legendary
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October 29, 2016, 12:06:56 PM
Why?

this really needs answering? it's the same number of coins as bitcoin ultimately. it has no usage. it's centralized. there might be security holes. if a few million were available right now the price would be more like 0.01. the only thing justifying any price is the near total lack of them.

He said he'll look at zcash at 0.1.
I was interested why anyone has a interest in that coin at any price Wink
For some days/weeks before i saw zcash by myself as a good speculation coin. But since my studies i figured out that I'll probably lose my money. That's why i decided to not trade this coin. Doesn't matter at what price. It is just not existing for me.
Zcash is based on new cryptographic research that is very exciting and will provide many use cases. It brings value. So for me it's a question of value proposition. Since the technology is new and untested, has no usage or adoption and just launched I think there's a mismatch between current price and what I value it. It is my belief that the price will stagnate for a very long time and my target is sub 0.1 BTC. Until that time Zcash is of very little interest speculation wise as there's little money to be made in the downward spiral (unless shorting becomes viable, however I think this will take a long time too).

Everyone can see that the lack of supply and current price is madness. Once the price settles down to reality, I will have to look closer. Will I buy? Probably not at 0.1 BTC, but until that price it's so overpriced that it's not worth paying attention to at all. Assuming no catastrophic failure (e.g critical bug), at some price point it will likely be undervalued, and that is when I will buy.

Most altcoins even the scammiest ones still have value to this day. Zcash has something to offer, just not at this price.
legendary
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Monero Core Team
October 29, 2016, 11:19:01 AM
I suggest to everyone to don't enter this as long as the full reward is active (i.e. in 33 days).

I would consider this to be a way to short a time frame. 6-9 months would be more appropriate in my opinion. Let us do some very simple math here.

ZEC block 1036, just currently mined, has a total block reward of 0.6476 ZEC. In 34 days the block reward will be 12.5 ZEC. So here is the math. If the demand for ZEC remains constant, which is a massive if since it requires keeping up the hype for over a month, then the price per ZEC would drop by an additional factor of over 19x. to around 0.3 XBT or around 214 USD. Let us not forget the peak was around 2.4 million USD. In addition, one would expect this bear market to gain some momentum on the downside, with a base starting point of a drop of around 99.99%. The question of how many 9s, will it be 99.999% or 99.9999% etc., before a bottom is reached remains to be seen.

Edit: I get the feeling that someone really overreacted to the criticism of the Dash instamine here, with this linear ramp up of the block reward over 34 days.
legendary
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October 29, 2016, 11:05:19 AM
So guys do you think it is smart to diversify some bitcoins also to Zcash when the inflation start hitting?

Personally I am a little interested in this because I find it a good investment if I can get it for fair price. Why I think it is good investment? The reason: it has probably the brightest minds in the world in its team (in case Mossad is involved). Also as there are involvement of Jews so money should not be the problem..  Cheesy
sr. member
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October 29, 2016, 10:50:18 AM
I suggest to everyone to don't enter this as long as the full reward is active (i.e. in 33 days).
legendary
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October 29, 2016, 09:12:47 AM
He said he'll look at zcash at 0.1.

and the only way from there is to continue on downwards. the only people who'll do well are the ones who have a significant amount early on. everyone else is just handing them money and never seeing it again.
sr. member
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October 29, 2016, 09:02:51 AM
Why?

this really needs answering? it's the same number of coins as bitcoin ultimately. it has no usage. it's centralized. there might be security holes. if a few million were available right now the price would be more like 0.01. the only thing justifying any price is the near total lack of them.

He said he'll look at zcash at 0.1.
I was interested why anyone has a interest in that coin at any price Wink
For some days/weeks before i saw zcash by myself as a good speculation coin. But since my studies i figured out that I'll probably lose my money. That's why i decided to not trade this coin. Doesn't matter at what price. It is just not existing for me.
legendary
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October 29, 2016, 08:58:24 AM
Why?

this really needs answering? it's the same number of coins as bitcoin ultimately. it has no usage. it's centralized. there might be security holes. if a few million were available right now the price would be more like 0.01. the only thing justifying any price is the near total lack of them.
sr. member
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October 29, 2016, 08:53:40 AM
With the massive influx of new supply ZEC is now facing a 99% value depreciation over the coming month and years. There's no reason to buy and hold zcash with such bleak future outlook. No long term investors, no adoption, no usage. It's going to one of the most brutal bear markets in the history of crypto. I advice to just forget about zcash for the next months, it's not going anywhere but down.

Sub 0.1 BTC is where I'll start looking at it.

Why?
legendary
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October 29, 2016, 08:30:08 AM
With the massive influx of new supply ZEC is now facing a 99% value depreciation over the coming month and years. There's no reason to buy and hold zcash with such bleak future outlook. No long term investors, no adoption, no usage. It's going to one of the most brutal bear markets in the history of crypto. I advice to just forget about zcash for the next months, it's not going anywhere but down.

Sub 0.1 BTC is where I'll start looking at it.
sr. member
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October 29, 2016, 07:30:37 AM
now the price fall down to 8+ btc i really amused when i see the price went up to 3.2k+ btc from polo
its seems to be for millionaires coin placing an entry need to think twice and more assessment if how
this coin will moves.

They will now only witness falls only in this because the ones who wanted to play for profits, they played and got out...
Bots conducted their games and now, no chances are being left for anyone but dumps, so I would better stay away until the price reaches something that we are hoping for, i.e.; nearly BTC0.2, I think it would even get lesser with the amount of coins being added to circulation...

May i ask why you want to buy zcash?
legendary
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!!! RiSe aBovE ThE StoRm !!!
October 29, 2016, 07:12:06 AM
now the price fall down to 8+ btc i really amused when i see the price went up to 3.2k+ btc from polo
its seems to be for millionaires coin placing an entry need to think twice and more assessment if how
this coin will moves.

They will now only witness falls only in this because the ones who wanted to play for profits, they played and got out...
Bots conducted their games and now, no chances are being left for anyone but dumps, so I would better stay away until the price reaches something that we are hoping for, i.e.; nearly BTC0.2, I think it would even get lesser with the amount of coins being added to circulation...
legendary
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October 29, 2016, 05:23:19 AM
Waiting to enter zcash at 3-4btc range

uh, why? the only thing propping up prices is non existent supply. as soon as that's consistent the price will plummet.
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October 29, 2016, 04:09:17 AM
Waiting to enter zcash at 3-4btc range
legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
October 29, 2016, 02:15:47 AM
This is going to be the biggest train wreck in the history of crypto.  Grin Grin Grin

That would be an understatement.  Grin  I mean wow...  Just wow.
newbie
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October 28, 2016, 11:39:51 PM
Now the price is 15btc
hero member
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October 28, 2016, 10:52:21 PM
now the price fall down to 8+ btc i really amused when i see the price went up to 3.2k+ btc from polo
its seems to be for millionaires coin placing an entry need to think twice and more assessment if how
this coin will moves.
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