Thank you for starting this thread.
There is irrefutable evidence that newbies including one that woke up after over a 2 year gap to make one post between 2017 and 2019. When raising the question about how this happened they claim ignorance.
They do not first read and adhere to the rules of this forum when creating a thread, and these bumping services thrives on this, they offer their services to devs who do not know the forum rules and this is the reason they landed here, it's not only about your project, it's also how you behave here when promoting your project here.
This is a great example to those thinking of hiring paid shills and using sock-puppets to pump threads. Those days are long gone where the fake accounts can push threads back to the top of the listings pages.
Project owners with real honest and genuine businesses that are considering going down the route of hiring sock-puppets to pump their threads with trash posts such as "Nice project, tell me more" and "Wow, looks like a great project with great team" are liable to face scam accusations because if any one part of a business is a scam then there is nothing to stop other parts of the business being scams too.
I would never trust a project. It displays all character of fraud and scam. Employing ANN bumping and shilling services is outright unprofessional and untrustworthy behavior.
Members should keep their eyes peeled and avoid wasting time and resources on such shady projects.
Yes I agree with you. This project is untrustworthy simply on the basis of the hiring of paid shills. They are to blame for taking the conversation away from it being about the
project rather than about the integrity of the team.
As for the viability of the project itself, that too sees to be a very weak ideal which cannot succeed and the basis of that is the inexperience and lack of business acumen of the team behind it.
They do not first read and adhere to the rules of this forum when creating a thread
Nope, they don't. I suspect most of these garbage ICOs don't read or even care that there
are rules here. And frankly it amazes me that these scams (assuming this is one) are still being perpetrated. That means they have to still be profitable, which means people are still buying these coins, investing money in the projects, and helping them to advertise. Unbelievable.
I would never trust a project. It displays all character of fraud and scam.
Yep. ANN bumping is a fairly old practice, and it could be that the project is just being dishonestly aggressive in marketing it--but I doubt it. My guess is that it is indeed a scam, though I could be completely wrong and I'm not accusing this project of scamming. That isn't a hard guess, because over 9/10ths of them seem to be, or are proven to be in the end. Bumping ANN threads incessantly isn't OK though.
Excellent post, thank you The Pharmacist.
The case for it being a scam hence the paid shills and the case for aggressive marketing both can be made here depending on how you see it - I stopped short of calling it scam. Your guess though could be correct because they have pre-mined coins and that immediately casts shadows on the project and the motives behind the owners. Theoretically, they wanted they could dump their coins at any time they wanted to exit without making an announcement so investors will be left with zero value coins, it has happened before with others projects of course.
I think when inevitable questions will be asked the people behind the project must be kind, courteous and helpful at all times. When the social media and promotions manager that will receive payment in tokens for representing and assisting the company (Yankeeruinx) has failed at the first hurdle and posts highly offensive replies and provides the most flimsy of explanations on exactly how an army of sock-puppets posted around 75% of all posts in the first 3 pages of their thread as can be seen here but the post was made without knowing at that time that the full member I listed (Yankeeruinx) was employed by them so the that did not correctly reflect because the paid shills percentage would have risen:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52952920///////////////////////////////////- There are a total of 50 posts in this thread excluding my one. Mine is post #51:
- Thread Page 1 posts:
OP=5 Newbies=14 Full Member=1- Thread Page 2 posts:
OP=8 Newbies=6 Full Member=2 Member=2 Legendary=2- Thread Page 3 posts:
OP=3 Newbies=3 Full Member=1 Member=1 Hero Member=1 Snr Member=1Of the posts made in this thread (excluding posts from the thread starter and those questioning its integrity necromastery x1, mine x1 and mosprognoz x1), it is dominated with newbies making around 72% (or 23 out of 32) posts.
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