Ok found the moneysupply 211810.00000000 so around 1800 has been mined the rest is the premine.
Yep, that's exactly what it says on the OP.
Topic: Zerovert - First Truly & Only Anonymous Coin with Zerocoin | Mandatory Upgrade ! - page 20. (Read 50921 times)
November 05, 2014, 03:26:08 PM
Yep, that's exactly what it says on the OP.
November 05, 2014, 03:21:24 PM
Ok found the moneysupply 211810.00000000 so around 1800 has been mined the rest is the premine.
November 05, 2014, 03:20:56 PM
What are the block times?
What is the coin reward per block?
What is the coin reward per block?
Reward is 10 per Block, I can tell from https://hashmonster.net/zero/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks
cool...thx.
60sec blocks @ 10 coins per block.
November 05, 2014, 03:19:17 PM
What are the block times?
What is the coin reward per block?
What is the coin reward per block?
Reward is 10 per Block, I can tell from https://hashmonster.net/zero/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks
November 05, 2014, 03:16:43 PM
What are the block times?
What is the coin reward per block?
What is the coin reward per block?
November 05, 2014, 03:16:37 PM
Which aspect of the security are you referring to? elliptic curve upgrades are always possible and easy to integrate. Also, RSA 2048 is extremely secure. As a reference, RSA 2048 is 2^32 more secure than RSA 1024. The highest known factorization is RSA 768. RSA 1024 is approximately 1000 times stronger than RSA 768. Meaning that our RSA modulus of 2048 is 5 trillion times stronger than current publicly known RSA factorization abilities.
http://www.keylength.com/en/compare/
Enter your key size in "asymmetric key size".
November 05, 2014, 03:10:31 PM
I'm seeing a coinbase transaction right now and it doesn't look like there's any zerocoin-related stuff. A regular address, a regular coinbase tx and so on.
There's also a couple of rpc commands one for minting another one for sending zerocoins, apparently without any parameters
My guess is this is a useless work-in-progress at best. It's just a regular coin with the theoretical possibility of turning regular coins into "zerocoins" and having both types of tx on the chain. That's a best case scenario, unless the dev has anything to say or prove ...
There's also a couple of rpc commands one for minting another one for sending zerocoins, apparently without any parameters
My guess is this is a useless work-in-progress at best. It's just a regular coin with the theoretical possibility of turning regular coins into "zerocoins" and having both types of tx on the chain. That's a best case scenario, unless the dev has anything to say or prove ...
Also price is really high and if it drops even a tiny bit more it's not really profitable to mine anymore :/
Means the price will go higher.
November 05, 2014, 03:10:04 PM
I'm seeing a coinbase transaction right now and it doesn't look like there's any zerocoin-related stuff. A regular address, a regular coinbase tx and so on.
There's also a couple of rpc commands one for minting another one for sending zerocoins, apparently without any parameters
My guess is this is a useless work-in-progress at best. It's just a regular coin with the theoretical possibility of turning regular coins into "zerocoins" and having both types of tx on the chain. That's a best case scenario, unless the dev has anything to say or prove ...
You should probably leave then.There's also a couple of rpc commands one for minting another one for sending zerocoins, apparently without any parameters
My guess is this is a useless work-in-progress at best. It's just a regular coin with the theoretical possibility of turning regular coins into "zerocoins" and having both types of tx on the chain. That's a best case scenario, unless the dev has anything to say or prove ...
scam,Words are not let people say?
November 05, 2014, 02:54:37 PM
I'm seeing a coinbase transaction right now and it doesn't look like there's any zerocoin-related stuff. A regular address, a regular coinbase tx and so on.
There's also a couple of rpc commands one for minting another one for sending zerocoins, apparently without any parameters
My guess is this is a useless work-in-progress at best. It's just a regular coin with the theoretical possibility of turning regular coins into "zerocoins" and having both types of tx on the chain. That's a best case scenario, unless the dev has anything to say or prove ...
You should probably leave then. There's also a couple of rpc commands one for minting another one for sending zerocoins, apparently without any parameters
My guess is this is a useless work-in-progress at best. It's just a regular coin with the theoretical possibility of turning regular coins into "zerocoins" and having both types of tx on the chain. That's a best case scenario, unless the dev has anything to say or prove ...
November 05, 2014, 02:54:04 PM
I'm seeing a coinbase transaction right now and it doesn't look like there's any zerocoin-related stuff. A regular address, a regular coinbase tx and so on.
There's also a couple of rpc commands one for minting another one for sending zerocoins, apparently without any parameters
My guess is this is a useless work-in-progress at best. It's just a regular coin with the theoretical possibility of turning regular coins into "zerocoins" and having both types of tx on the chain. That's a best case scenario, unless the dev has anything to say or prove ...
There's also a couple of rpc commands one for minting another one for sending zerocoins, apparently without any parameters
My guess is this is a useless work-in-progress at best. It's just a regular coin with the theoretical possibility of turning regular coins into "zerocoins" and having both types of tx on the chain. That's a best case scenario, unless the dev has anything to say or prove ...
nope details all here: http://zerovert.org/get_started.html
November 05, 2014, 02:53:29 PM
I'm seeing a coinbase transaction right now and it doesn't look like there's any zerocoin-related stuff. A regular address, a regular coinbase tx and so on.
There's also a couple of rpc commands one for minting another one for sending zerocoins, apparently without any parameters
My guess is this is a useless work-in-progress at best. It's just a regular coin with the theoretical possibility of turning regular coins into "zerocoins" and having both types of tx on the chain. That's a best case scenario, unless the dev has anything to say or prove ...
There's also a couple of rpc commands one for minting another one for sending zerocoins, apparently without any parameters
My guess is this is a useless work-in-progress at best. It's just a regular coin with the theoretical possibility of turning regular coins into "zerocoins" and having both types of tx on the chain. That's a best case scenario, unless the dev has anything to say or prove ...
Also price is really high and if it drops even a tiny bit more it's not really profitable to mine anymore :/
November 05, 2014, 02:49:20 PM
I'm seeing a coinbase transaction right now and it doesn't look like there's any zerocoin-related stuff. A regular address, a regular coinbase tx and so on.
There's also a couple of rpc commands one for minting another one for sending zerocoins, apparently without any parameters
My guess is this is a useless work-in-progress at best. It's just a regular coin with the theoretical possibility of turning regular coins into "zerocoins" and having both types of tx on the chain. That's a best case scenario, unless the dev has anything to say or prove ...
There's also a couple of rpc commands one for minting another one for sending zerocoins, apparently without any parameters
My guess is this is a useless work-in-progress at best. It's just a regular coin with the theoretical possibility of turning regular coins into "zerocoins" and having both types of tx on the chain. That's a best case scenario, unless the dev has anything to say or prove ...
November 05, 2014, 02:47:31 PM
Which aspect of the security are you referring to? elliptic curve upgrades are always possible and easy to integrate. Also, RSA 2048 is extremely secure. As a reference, RSA 2048 is 2^32 more secure than RSA 1024. The highest known factorization is RSA 768. RSA 1024 is approximately 1000 times stronger than RSA 768. Meaning that our RSA modulus of 2048 is 5 trillion times stronger than current publicly known RSA factorization abilities.
oh boy, gonna be a busy week I guess
Lots of reading to do!
I see what you were talking about though, sorry if I didn't specify, I wasn't talking about elliptic curve. Do you have anything in mind regarding integration of a new one?
I was referring to the RSA encryption you used to set up the accumulator, and where both you and Taco were pulling information about it from. He gave a pretty good link though, gonna read it now.
I guess the elliptic curve being insecure against quantum computing is a focus of every cryptocurrency on this board and not just this one, so I'm really just looking to understand what you did for setting up the accumulator.
November 05, 2014, 02:42:34 PM
Hm, do you have good reading links so I can understand this? No work until monday, so there's some time 
There's a basic description of how an RSA accumulator works here:https://eprint.iacr.org/2009/625.pdf
See 2.2, and ignore the initial stuff relating to the hash tables.
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With their plan of becoming a sidechain to vertcoin, could it be possible to retain some form of security post 5-15 years, assuming the transfer is possible?
Um, if the method used to spend the old coins is totally insecure, probably not unless they're additionally wrapped in some way eg a normal ECDSA signature that is otherwise unused.Quote
With the increased verification time, would ddosing something like a centralized pool become trivial, or is that something separate?
DDoSing a centralized pool is already trivial. But DDoSing all the nodes on the network is much harder, and the longer verification time makes that trivial.Quote
What historical information can be garnished from storing the niZKPs on the chain?
That a transaction in the past was actually valid or not.With their plan of becoming a sidechain to vertcoin, could it be possible to retain some form of security post 5-15 years, assuming the transfer is possible?
Um, if the method used to spend the old coins is totally insecure, probably not unless they're additionally wrapped in some way eg a normal ECDSA signature that is otherwise unused.
Which aspect of the security are you referring to? elliptic curve upgrades are always possible and easy to integrate. Also, RSA 2048 is extremely secure. As a reference, RSA 2048 is 2^32 more secure than RSA 1024. The highest known factorization is RSA 768. RSA 1024 is approximately 1000 times stronger than RSA 768. Meaning that our RSA modulus of 2048 is 5 trillion times stronger than current publicly known RSA factorization abilities.
So no one has spent any zerocoins yet, why cant i see how many coins are on the blockchain?
So to sum it up, no source, doesn't show the balance, and only transactions I can see are coinbase transactions
I want to see you demonstrate a full zerocoin transaction please and post everything here steps and commands included! Along with explaining my other questions, thankyou.
November 05, 2014, 02:39:39 PM
Could you please add the Pool to the OP ? I already wrote you a PM but got no answer..
November 05, 2014, 02:36:12 PM
Hm, do you have good reading links so I can understand this? No work until monday, so there's some time
There's a basic description of how an RSA accumulator works here:https://eprint.iacr.org/2009/625.pdf
See 2.2, and ignore the initial stuff relating to the hash tables.
Quote
With their plan of becoming a sidechain to vertcoin, could it be possible to retain some form of security post 5-15 years, assuming the transfer is possible?
Um, if the method used to spend the old coins is totally insecure, probably not unless they're additionally wrapped in some way eg a normal ECDSA signature that is otherwise unused.Quote
With the increased verification time, would ddosing something like a centralized pool become trivial, or is that something separate?
DDoSing a centralized pool is already trivial. But DDoSing all the nodes on the network is much harder, and the longer verification time makes that trivial.Quote
What historical information can be garnished from storing the niZKPs on the chain?
That a transaction in the past was actually valid or not.With their plan of becoming a sidechain to vertcoin, could it be possible to retain some form of security post 5-15 years, assuming the transfer is possible?
Um, if the method used to spend the old coins is totally insecure, probably not unless they're additionally wrapped in some way eg a normal ECDSA signature that is otherwise unused.
Which aspect of the security are you referring to? elliptic curve upgrades are always possible and easy to integrate. Also, RSA 2048 is extremely secure. As a reference, RSA 2048 is 2^32 more secure than RSA 1024. The highest known factorization is RSA 768. RSA 1024 is approximately 1000 times stronger than RSA 768. Meaning that our RSA modulus of 2048 is 5 trillion times stronger than current publicly known RSA factorization abilities.
November 05, 2014, 02:30:22 PM
As the leader of the new Proof of Developer service... Do you plan on posting a video conference [via vimeo or youtube] outlining your goals and giving a face to the project?
November 05, 2014, 02:28:03 PM
Interesting. Watching!
November 05, 2014, 02:27:22 PM
The accumulator requires an RSA modulus of unknown factorization, so we used the RSA modulus of unknown factorization from the world renowned RSA factoring challenge.
Is there any way to verify this since the source is not available? Just have to take your word for it and keep an eye on the blockchain for double spends?
Yes, that's the case for now. I assure you that the N value is in fact from the RSA modulus. Also Poramin is a well known cryptocurrency developer, who also made Vertcoin - the first coin that really made a good effort towards ASIC resistance (and one of top 5 most valuable cryptocurrencies this february)
November 05, 2014, 02:24:47 PM
The accumulator requires an RSA modulus of unknown factorization, so we used the RSA modulus of unknown factorization from the world renowned RSA factoring challenge.
Is there any way to verify this since the source is not available? Just have to take your word for it and keep an eye on the blockchain for double spends?
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