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crackfoo

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Quote from: jaggard on February 10, 2016, 04:38:51 PM

Yes, and it seems every time it resets, it's resetting the 'balance' field on my wallet. I've been mining with between 1-2THs on the sha pool, and have yet to get a payout because of this. Can you assure me that it's going to eventually correct itself on this or have I wasted power for close to 24h now?

It's because some of the coins are offline so the balances aren't registering until they get back online. The shares and balances will return.

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Yes, and it seems every time it resets, it's resetting the 'balance' field on my wallet. I've been mining with between 1-2THs on the sha pool, and have yet to get a payout because of this. Can you assure me that it's going to eventually correct itself on this or have I wasted power for close to 24h now?

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Quote from: AngryDwarf on February 10, 2016, 01:06:41 PM

So what happened with Fut(X13). Noticed its now disabled and a lot of orphans. Wrong block fork? Presumably some of them must have hit the exchange and cleared for payouts to occur?

Yeah it's got on a fork when we switched it to another server. I've found that the new server I have... seems to be a problem which is leading to the random stratum resets.

I'm pulling all the coins off it and having the provider check it out.

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So what happened with Fut(X13). Noticed its now disabled and a lot of orphans. Wrong block fork? Presumably some of them must have hit the exchange and cleared for payouts to occur?

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Quote from: AngryDwarf on February 10, 2016, 10:35:09 AM

Quote from: jkminkov on February 10, 2016, 06:27:31 AM

same for groestl "multiport" best way to check is to see pool coin reserves, if there's no more than 2%(pool fee) left in pocket, then it's probably a glitch...

Interesting. Just doing some calculations on the system which has just gone X13 crazy. A bit more difficult to calculate on a fast moving system, but if I divide my hash rate by the pool hash rate, I then have to multiply it by 0.8 to get a figure similar to my miners share.

And a similar thing on my more usual c11 algo. Seems like the system display figures could be way off. Just had another quick look at the yaamp branch that crackfoo linked to, but couldn't see anything obvious in the ui section. It's really far beyond my experience and knowledge.

Hoping those coins mature quick and get exchanged before the pending value corrects!

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Quote from: jkminkov on February 10, 2016, 06:27:31 AM

same for groestl "multiport" best way to check is to see pool coin reserves, if there's no more than 2%(pool fee) left in pocket, then it's probably a glitch...

Interesting. Just doing some calculations on the system which has just gone X13 crazy. A bit more difficult to calculate on a fast moving system, but if I divide my hash rate by the pool hash rate, I then have to multiply it by 0.8 to get a figure similar to my miners share.

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by request, for coins that have queued miner payments (coins that show red in the stats), we've added how much we're behind so you can have a better decision to continue mining for that altcoin or switch back to BTC.

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same for groestl "multiport" best way to check is to see pool coin reserves, if there's no more than 2%(pool fee) left in pocket, then it's probably a glitch...

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Quote from: crackfoo on February 10, 2016, 12:02:52 AM

no pressure. as you say, this is the most profitable site. I've mentioned before, I'm not a developer and the src is available. I can't tell where something is getting miss calculated I don't understand all the functions of php. If someone can point it out I can go from there. But the bottom line is what counts and that is, it's profitable for miners or there wouldn't be any.

If there were no per coin stats it sounds like you'd be happy by the profitability.

Somethings off, but I don't think it's affecting the bottom line and as I mentioned, I'll see if I can find someone to clean it up.

Well, I've found this site profitable because I am able to use my mining resources in a much more efficient way. I've pointed some sha256 miners this way, and their comments have been that the site provides similar income to mining BTC directly, or slightly better. Since BTC is not mined directly here, it really depends on coins being more profitable to BTC for a sustained period. If there was a 20% hole in income, it would have been noticed.
So whether something is off that needs to be cleaned up, or is it a function that needs to be understood that is a question.
When I looked at the code briefly, it does seem to operate some kind of reserve system. Myr-gr hasn't been that popular an algo recently so maybe that is the issue. Also this could be the issue when people rent large amounts of hash at this site, the system may start building up a larger reserve, only for it to reduce the reserve when the higher hash rate period as ended. So it would be interesting what you can find out about this.

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Quote from: AngryDwarf on February 09, 2016, 02:41:30 PM

Quote from: crackfoo on February 09, 2016, 09:06:15 AM

Quote from: AngryDwarf on February 09, 2016, 07:56:26 AM

Quote from: jkminkov on February 09, 2016, 07:50:24 AM

Quote from: crackfoo on November 23, 2015, 08:22:56 PM

www.zpool.ca
PROP reward system
BTC Payouts
2% Fees (1% while in BETA, ends Dec 1)

can you check if myr-gr on port 5433 and other multiports too, seems pool fee is 20%, not 2%, just added another mining address with all hashrate mine and I get sum of my shares exactly 80%, which means 20% pool fee

Alt coin fees at least seem to be paid along with the transaction. Each transaction has two outputs, the amount paid to you, and the other a fee. I did take a quick look at the Yaamp code and it wouldn't suprise me if there are many holes in it. I saw a bit of code which appeared to reserve 10% of coins, presumably to pay alt coin miners. I do think though that we need an explanation of what is happening here.

yes the code seems a bit disjointed and hard to follow and tbh, there are parts where I'm not sure what it's doing. I'm going to see if there is a dev that will overhaul the exchange part. The original yiimp dev chooses not to work on the exchange part and that is fine, as they prefer to focus on direct mining.

Sorry to put pressure on you, but we would all appreciate an analysis on this apparent 80% cap.
I've used very many mining sites, and this as so far proved the most profitable. However, some sites I have used have implemented merged mining so badly that I question whether they are stealing hashes. Other sites have had disappearing admins that have had problems which seem to coincide with collapsed exchanges, only for a reason to be given that such issues where so historical that it does not match the experience.
So as complex (and yet too simplistic) as the yaamp product is, I hope you can provide some analysis to restore confidence.
As to some of the issues recently raised, I would suggest people explicitly state their payout currency, and understand that some blockchains (such as Megacoin) can be frozen at high difficulty for a week, only to get the low difficulty mined the hell out of them until the next blockchain freeze. I don't want such known about issues be a distraction.

no pressure. as you say, this is the most profitable site. I've mentioned before, I'm not a developer and the src is available. I can't tell where something is getting miss calculated I don't understand all the functions of php. If someone can point it out I can go from there. But the bottom line is what counts and that is, it's profitable for miners or there wouldn't be any.

If there were no per coin stats it sounds like you'd be happy by the profitability.

Somethings off, but I don't think it's affecting the bottom line and as I mentioned, I'll see if I can find someone to clean it up.

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Quote from: BOBAN on February 09, 2016, 05:46:45 PM

you guys should add feathercoin to your neoscrypt algo section!

We've had it before an it seems to have a high % of orphans.

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you guys should add feathercoin to your neoscrypt algo section!

AngryDwarf

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Quote from: crackfoo on February 09, 2016, 09:06:15 AM

Quote from: AngryDwarf on February 09, 2016, 07:56:26 AM

Quote from: jkminkov on February 09, 2016, 07:50:24 AM

Quote from: crackfoo on November 23, 2015, 08:22:56 PM

www.zpool.ca
PROP reward system
BTC Payouts
2% Fees (1% while in BETA, ends Dec 1)

can you check if myr-gr on port 5433 and other multiports too, seems pool fee is 20%, not 2%, just added another mining address with all hashrate mine and I get sum of my shares exactly 80%, which means 20% pool fee

Alt coin fees at least seem to be paid along with the transaction. Each transaction has two outputs, the amount paid to you, and the other a fee. I did take a quick look at the Yaamp code and it wouldn't suprise me if there are many holes in it. I saw a bit of code which appeared to reserve 10% of coins, presumably to pay alt coin miners. I do think though that we need an explanation of what is happening here.

yes the code seems a bit disjointed and hard to follow and tbh, there are parts where I'm not sure what it's doing. I'm going to see if there is a dev that will overhaul the exchange part. The original yiimp dev chooses not to work on the exchange part and that is fine, as they prefer to focus on direct mining.

Sorry to put pressure on you, but we would all appreciate an analysis on this apparent 80% cap.
I've used very many mining sites, and this as so far proved the most profitable. However, some sites I have used have implemented merged mining so badly that I question whether they are stealing hashes. Other sites have had disappearing admins that have had problems which seem to coincide with collapsed exchanges, only for a reason to be given that such issues where so historical that it does not match the experience.
So as complex (and yet too simplistic) as the yaamp product is, I hope you can provide some analysis to restore confidence.
As to some of the issues recently raised, I would suggest people explicitly state their payout currency, and understand that some blockchains (such as Megacoin) can be frozen at high difficulty for a week, only to get the low difficulty mined the hell out of them until the next blockchain freeze. I don't want such known about issues be a distraction.

crackfoo

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Quote from: djoser on February 08, 2016, 04:11:16 AM

Quote from: crackfoo on February 02, 2016, 09:57:48 PM

Quote from: djoser on January 28, 2016, 07:13:35 AM

X15 issue again...

I use the algo switching option with my gpu and don't understand why the worker shuts down completely if one algo has issues.
It should simply switch to the next profitable one, but it just stops mining completely until the dead algo returns.
That's not very good at all!

djoser.

This should be fixed now.

Hello crackfoo,

Sorry, but it seems not to be fixed.
Exactly the same issue again right now.
X15 disappears from pool stats and miner stops working.

Cheers, djoser.

We added Joincoin (J) as another x15 coin so hopefully this will at least not cause lost hash.

satoutaka6612

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It appeared in purse. Kiss

While now for a while wait-and-see.

crackfoo

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Quote from: satoutaka6612 on February 09, 2016, 12:09:28 PM

VJ6swNPfqm3vcibr2oB46c5PAH9fcqti8U
Please check this address.

First had been recognized as VCN coin, I add the c = VRC
WEB page has been calculated by the VERICOIN, but not me discharged.

PS.crackfoo Thank you always.

It has been set from what I can tell:

www.zpool.ca/explorer?id=440&txid=f3ff5dd8518eb130a4e33143f824e70b640742fed22c434790f91ad97c9be7b6

Cheers

satoutaka6612

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VJ6swNPfqm3vcibr2oB46c5PAH9fcqti8U
Please check this address.

First had been recognized as VCN coin, I add the c = VRC
WEB page has been calculated by the VERICOIN, but not me discharged.

PS.crackfoo Thank you always.

crackfoo

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Quote from: jkminkov on February 09, 2016, 10:28:04 AM

Quote from: jkminkov on February 09, 2016, 09:09:41 AM

exchange is fine, share distribution is wrong, some formula where instead of =1.0 it is = 0.7497

probably here

https://github.com/globalzon/yaamp/blob/master/web/yaamp/core/backend/blocks.php
https://github.com/globalzon/yaamp/blob/master/web/yaamp/core/functions/yaamp.php

those two:

function yaamp_fee($algo)

function take_yaamp_fee($v, $algo)

yiimp has been changed a bit in that yaamp_fee function:

https://github.com/tpruvot/yiimp/blob/yiimp/web/yaamp/core/functions/yaamp.php

But not sure what effect it would have...

jkminkov

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Quote from: jkminkov on February 09, 2016, 09:09:41 AM

exchange is fine, share distribution is wrong, some formula where instead of =1.0 it is = 0.7497

probably here

https://github.com/globalzon/yaamp/blob/master/web/yaamp/core/backend/blocks.php
https://github.com/globalzon/yaamp/blob/master/web/yaamp/core/functions/yaamp.php

those two:

function yaamp_fee($algo)

function take_yaamp_fee($v, $algo)

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Quote from: crackfoo on February 09, 2016, 09:31:08 AM

Quote from: Grout on February 09, 2016, 09:21:48 AM

Oh Zpool. I like you very much but you make it really hard to write software that auto-switch to the most profitable pool (like MinerControl or my own software). Here is an extract from the values returned by your API for the neoscrypt pool :

Code:

2.95757
2.94374
2.94605
2.95738
2.96167
2.96167
2.96167
5375.56269
13.16649
1.68837
2.10255
11.16034
5.42788
5.42788
5.19891
3.63841
3.70073
3.94264
3.94264
2.76667
2.76667

This one abhorrent value (5375 BTC/Gh/day) screws up everyone that switches based on an average. I think it is default behavior for MinerControl (it definitely is for my software) to average the last 2 hours values to make a decision. This single 'error', makes everyone switch to you for the next two hours. Even if you are not the most profitable.

Guess I'll have to work around that and hope it is unintentional.

That must have been from UFO. It was diff blocked for a day or two and so when a block was found the chain, well, that would make the diff drop super low to allow it to catchup with blocks and thus making it jump the profitability. I would expect that it would report the same on all pools with UFO in their mix...

Well, the only other pool mining UFO I have data on is Hashpower, and they don't show the same fluctuation. In the same timeperiod, their highest value is 5.8. I only have one 'dot' per minute though, so it might have slipped between my API calls.
Anyway, I added a bit of code to ignore these 'anomalies' and it should be OK in the future.

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