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Hey crackfoo, i'm using a doge address for payout it's showing as uno. Does that matter?

Yes, it will result in forfeit of earnings. Set c=DOGE in the password string. The pool might not earn enough DOGE though (it is frequently red), so you may be better mining a different currency and using an exchange to obtain DOGE. Bleutrade and Bittrex have 2 DOGE withdrawal fees, Poloniex is 5 DOGE. Bittrex has 50,000 sats minimum order size, Bleutrade is only 1,000 sats,lits,pups, but is not as liquid.

From the front page.

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WALLET_ADDRESS must be a valid BTC address. Incorrect addresses will result in forfit of earning.
You can also use any valid wallet address from any of the coins we mine. This feature has had minimal testing so use at your own risk
Non-BTC payouts depend on that coin being mined as your BTC balance is traded internally by our system to your currency of choice. If we have not or are not mining that currency your payouts will be delayed until the pool has mined the blocks for you to get paid. If you notice in the pools status that the currency is red, it means there is not sufficient amount of the currency to pay miner(s). It's recommended to use BTC.
Use -p "c=SYMBOL" if zpool does not recognize the currency correctly.
See the "Pool Status" area on the right for PORT numbers. Algorithms without associated coins are disabled.
copper member
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Hey crackfoo, i'm using a doge address for payout it's showing as uno. Does that matter?
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Thought I would share an example of a CPU auto algo switching script. It comprises of a main algo loop script, and a wrapper launcher script that allows the selection of the number of threads to use, and launches the algo loop script on low priority so you can still use your computer to do other things. It uses two different cpu miners, a multi miner which covers every algorithm (but is shockingly poor on scrypt performance compared to the original cpu pooler miner), and an x11 optimised miner which kicks ass on that algorithm. The normalisation factors are simply kH/s * 10. Some algos get a better performance boost using multi threads than others, probably dependent on how memory intensive the algo is (and thus the threads are sharing memory bandwidth). Note, I don't use the sleep statement as per the example ccminer page, its pointless. It is also worthwhile setting difficulty setting on CPU miners, as the stratum auto diff takes too long to drop the difficulty. In many cases this is the lowest allowed.

Code:
@ECHO OFF
SETLOCAL
IF %1.==. (
    SET /P threads=Number of threads?
) ELSE (
    SET threads=%1
)
START "DGB Mining at zpool (CPU) - %threads% Threads" /LOW CPU-AlgoSwitch-Loop.bat %threads%
ENDLOCAL
EXIT /B 0

Code:
@ECHO OFF
SETLOCAL
SET threads=%1
SET username=
REM 1 thread normalisation string for multi miner only
REM SET password=c=DGB,scrypt=36,x11=456,x13=334,x15=310,c11=456,lyra2v2=853,quark=865,qubit=730,myr-gr=3730,neoscrypt=30,groestl=2440,blake=25650,blakecoin=47900
REM 1 Thread
REM SET password=c=DGB,scrypt=145,x11=1125,x13=334,x15=310,c11=456,lyra2v2=853,quark=865,qubit=730,myr-gr=3730,neoscrypt=30,groestl=2440,blake=25650,blakecoin=47900
REM 4 Threads
SET password=c=DGB,scrypt=525,x11=4100,x13=825,x15=771,c11=1117,lyra2v2=1937,quark=2184,qubit=1711,myr-gr=7570,neoscrypt=69,groestl=5157,blake=67030,blakecoin=105600
CD ..\..
:START
CD cpuminer-1.3
minerd-corei7-avx.exe -r 0 -a scrypt -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:3433 -u %username% -p d=4,%password% -t %threads%
minerd-corei7-avx.exe -r 0 -a X11 -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:3533 -u %username% -p d=0.001,%password% -t %threads%
CD ..
CD cpuminer-multi-1-2-dev
cpuminer.exe -r 0 -a x13 -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:3633 -u %username% -p d=0.001,%password% -t %threads%
cpuminer.exe -r 0 -a x15 -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:3733 -u %username% -p d=0.001,%password% -t %threads%
cpuminer.exe -r 0 -a c11 -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:3573 -u %username% -p d=0.001,%password% -t %threads%
cpuminer.exe -r 0 -a lyra2v2 -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:4533 -u %username% -p d=0.1,%password% -t %threads%
cpuminer.exe -r 0 -a quark -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:4033 -u %username% -p d=0.001,%password% -t %threads%
cpuminer.exe -r 0 -a qubit -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:4733 -u %username% -p d=0.001,%password% -t %threads%
cpuminer.exe -r 0 -a myr-gr -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:5433 -u %username% -p d=0.001,%password% -t %threads%
cpuminer.exe -r 0 -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:4233 -u %username% -p d=4,%password% -t %threads%
cpuminer.exe -r 0 -a groestl -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:5333 -u %username% -p d=0.3,%password% -t %threads%
cpuminer.exe -r 0 -a blake -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:5733 -u %username% -p d=0.01,%password% -t %threads%
cpuminer.exe -r 0 -a blakecoin -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:5743 -u %username% -p d=0.02,%password% -t %threads%
CD ..
GOTO START
CD zpool\DGB
ENDLOCAL
EXIT /B 0
sr. member
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Not sure if the X15 EverGreen wallet/daemon has gone down, X15 has disappeared from the main page, but one of my miners thinks X15 is the best algo to mine and thus is doing no work, just waiting for it. Looks like the profitability on the connection side of things has not got set to zero when all coins in an algo is down.

I noticed that. Will have to see if something can be added to make sure if no coins are active to clear the profit data.

Thanks, I hope you make this one high priority as although I might have saved a bit of electricity, the heating went off during the night! lol.
legendary
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Not sure if the X15 EverGreen wallet/daemon has gone down, X15 has disappeared from the main page, but one of my miners thinks X15 is the best algo to mine and thus is doing no work, just waiting for it. Looks like the profitability on the connection side of things has not got set to zero when all coins in an algo is down.

I noticed that. Will have to see if something can be added to make sure if no coins are active to clear the profit data.
legendary
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@crackfoo, could you consider adding TROLL coin. It is tradable on Bleutrade.

I think I tried before and there were problems with block creation. I'll give it a try again now that we've migrated everything now.

legendary
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@Siolim - perhaps you could clarify why you made the statement 'Very similar to fraud'? All a profit switching mining pool does is mine the most profitable coin and then exchange it for the coin that a user wants paying in. Many people would argue that most altcoins are shtcoins. And perhaps you could clarify what is a garbage algorithm or what you consider is a bad coin. Even a scam coin is hard to define as many coin devs appear to have left the scene, and could be secretly buying up on the cheep before releasing their latest and greatest wallet upgrade.

They sent me a PM, complaining they rented qubit and has not made a return. I have been renting qubit and have been having no problem except as of late my orders don't get filled because someone has high orders. I can only assume it must be them but if they're higher than me.

@Siolim, you can't just rent a bunch of hash at prices our pool doesn't make and expect a return. Prices have to be adjusted all the time as the pools profitability goes up and down. Regardless, it always a slim margin but possible using the right tools to make a return from Nicehash.
sr. member
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@crackfoo, could you consider adding TROLL coin. It is tradable on Bleutrade.
sr. member
Activity: 476
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@Siolim - perhaps you could clarify why you made the statement 'Very similar to fraud'? All a profit switching mining pool does is mine the most profitable coin and then exchange it for the coin that a user wants paying in. Many people would argue that most altcoins are shtcoins. And perhaps you could clarify what is a garbage algorithm or what you consider is a bad coin. Even a scam coin is hard to define as many coin devs appear to have left the scene, and could be secretly buying up on the cheep before releasing their latest and greatest wallet upgrade.
sr. member
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Not sure if the X15 EverGreen wallet/daemon has gone down, X15 has disappeared from the main page, but one of my miners thinks X15 is the best algo to mine and thus is doing no work, just waiting for it. Looks like the profitability on the connection side of things has not got set to zero when all coins in an algo is down.
legendary
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I can't stress this enough. Be sure to check your stats page when you start mining to make sure your currency has been detected properly. With so many different altcoins address versions will be used over and over again. No pool has the ability to automatically know what currency you want to get paid in, so the safest bet is to alway include c=BTC or whatever the symbol is of the currency you want.

If you mine with the wrong one for a while, THEN set your currency, your balance WILL be reset.

It's noted on the main page to set c= if you see it didn't pick the right one.

Cheers
sr. member
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So allowing up to 8 characters for custom difficulty setting, I was running out of password space on ccminer. The myr-gr normalisation factor was getting chopped, and the scrypt parameter was missing completely. (so with scrypt being last on the list, it was probably getting stuck on that when cycling through the loop)

Code:
SET password=c=BTC,x11=8.7,x13=6.7,x15=6.1,c11=8.7,qubit=15.0,quark=12.3,lyra2v2=3.8,groestl=23.9,blake=624.5,blakecoin=978.7,myr-gr=42.2,scrypt=1
SET password=c=BTC,x11=87,x13=67,x15=61,c11=87,qubit=150,quark=123,lyra2v2=38,myr-gr=422,groestl=239,blake=6245,blakecoin=9787
REM         8.10........20........30........40........50........60........70........80........90........100.......110.......120....X
sr. member
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Or alternatively, is there a maximum length to the password string that is confusing the switch to scrypt? (which really is ASIC territory)

my password string looks like this.
d=XXXXX,c=BTC,x11=8.7,x13=6.7,x15=6.1,c11=8.7,qubit=15.0,quark=12.3,lyra2v2=3.8,groestl=23.9,blake=624.5,blakecoin=978.7,myr-gr=42.2,scrypt=1

AFAIK, it should allow up to 1024... so still a ways to go for this passwd even
ccminer: limit 127 chars
cpuminer no limit
sgminer: no password limit, but mining.authorize message is 8192 max (so password can be ~7.5k len)

Yep, seems to be the issue. Removed a few algos and now my ccminer is switching to myr-gr again. I suppose I could times my normalisation factors by 10 to get rid of a few decimal places and save some space for more algos.
legendary
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Hi,

We've just added FutCoin (FUTC) to the x13 algo and pushed profitability to the top with this algo.

Cheers!
legendary
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Or alternatively, is there a maximum length to the password string that is confusing the switch to scrypt? (which really is ASIC territory)

my password string looks like this.
d=XXXXX,c=BTC,x11=8.7,x13=6.7,x15=6.1,c11=8.7,qubit=15.0,quark=12.3,lyra2v2=3.8,groestl=23.9,blake=624.5,blakecoin=978.7,myr-gr=42.2,scrypt=1

AFAIK, it should allow up to 1024... so still a ways to go for this passwd even
ccminer: limit 127 chars
cpuminer no limit
sgminer: no password limit, but mining.authorize message is 8192 max (so password can be ~7.5k len)

Ahh yes, there are limits in the miners software too. For zpool it will accept up to 1024 as long as the miner can supply it as well.

Thanks elbandi
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Or alternatively, is there a maximum length to the password string that is confusing the switch to scrypt? (which really is ASIC territory)

my password string looks like this.
d=XXXXX,c=BTC,x11=8.7,x13=6.7,x15=6.1,c11=8.7,qubit=15.0,quark=12.3,lyra2v2=3.8,groestl=23.9,blake=624.5,blakecoin=978.7,myr-gr=42.2,scrypt=1

AFAIK, it should allow up to 1024... so still a ways to go for this passwd even
ccminer: limit 127 chars
cpuminer no limit
sgminer: no password limit, but mining.authorize message is 8192 max (so password can be ~7.5k len)
legendary
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sr. member
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Thanks for the info. What code is this system written in? Is it all MySQL/PHP?
legendary
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I'd mined some DASH a few days ago before it went red and had a few payments without txId's which seemed to go missing. So I recently mined some more DASH and thankfully got a second combined payment of the missing DASH with the next DASH payment. Hopefully this is an area that can be improved in the future as it is bewildering to the uninitiated. Feel free to keep adding more algos and coins first though, the new ones are working well.

It makes me wonder if one of the new scrypt coins has an extreme yoyo difficulty adjustment. I've found my GPU' switching to scrypt now which is rather unprofitable if the yoyo coin drops quickly in profitability. I might be best disabling scrypt in my miner configuration. What is the minimum time limit that an algo is mined for before checking for the next best algo? Obviously if it is too low, then hashes are lost whist algo switching. If too high, a yoyo coin might put me on an unprofitable algo for too long.

Yes, the system is designed to double check previous payments to detect ones that have failed and re-do them so this is what you're seeing.

diff is one factor but so is exchange activity. Some day I'll try and get into the code that does that and see if it can be improved.
legendary
Activity: 3486
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Or alternatively, is there a maximum length to the password string that is confusing the switch to scrypt? (which really is ASIC territory)

my password string looks like this.
d=XXXXX,c=BTC,x11=8.7,x13=6.7,x15=6.1,c11=8.7,qubit=15.0,quark=12.3,lyra2v2=3.8,groestl=23.9,blake=624.5,blakecoin=978.7,myr-gr=42.2,scrypt=1

AFAIK, it should allow up to 1024... so still a ways to go for this passwd even
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