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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
Earlier, some members asked for caselaw (authorities) on these points. Would you…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 08:02:37 PM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
QuoteDefinitions--"contract"--"agreement"--"contract for sale"--"sale"--"present…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 07:40:42 PM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
This thread has really taken off since I last posted! There is a lot of informa…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 07:33:32 PM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
QuoteDefinitions--"contract"--"agreement"--"contract for sale"--"sale"--"present…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 07:27:37 PM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
My biggest thing here is you are willing to propose optimistic opinion, please o…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 07:15:56 PM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
Is there a citation to this affect? I don't oppose you on this. I just would lov…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 07:08:49 PM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
especially given 400.2-106 consistent theme of mutual rights to termination. it…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 07:03:05 PM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
Many times there are successive deliveries in pre-orders. .. 1 order or several…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 06:53:51 PM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
It seems that you are reading (3) without reading (2) -- the two are interrelate…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 06:50:05 PM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
It seems that you are reading (3) without reading (2) -- the two are interrelate…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 06:23:35 PM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
here's another interesting section that may (contradiction is invited) address…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 06:12:20 PM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
1) substitution of "a reasonable time" for lack of a specific delivery time2) th…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 05:16:18 PM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
here's another interesting section that may (contradiction is invited) address…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 02:40:44 PM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
Here are the terms you agree to when buying product on the BFL website:Products…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 01:22:41 PM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
Ok I found something in the code I think is relevant (drlukacs I don't think I g…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 11:34:08 AM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
Hi centove, it's referred to as an "implied warranty" and UCC is designed to pr…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 12:07:45 PM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
This is where the issue becomes, there is no written contract, it's implied, ret…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 11:37:13 AM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
Thanks everybody for all the responses. I'm off to some "home work" and see if…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 10:54:42 AM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
It got so far only a single response. You are quite right that the act of paymen…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 10:51:42 AM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
Thinking about suing?Thinking about hurting Sonny Vleisides at BFL?Think again!h…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 10:45:04 AM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
Endlessa posted the questions here:http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.ph…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 10:02:15 AM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
I am impressed with your close analysis of the UCC! Unfortunately, you took a c…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 10:39:29 AM |
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Miners, Consumer Protections (UCC), and Pre-orders Legal
There is one point I wanted to correct:Well, imo, atleast in Missouri you can ex…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 27, 2013, 10:22:07 AM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
ok here's what I found so far and hope to help everybody understand what their r…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 08:10:59 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
the word repudiate. I didn't see anything in the definitions section that indic…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 05:37:53 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
Fortunately, drafters of the UCC thought even about this:Quote400.2-309. (1) The…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 04:50:16 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
Btw almost done with the discussion in the legal forum. drlukacs, do you want me…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 04:33:06 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
Btw almost done with the discussion in the legal forum. drlukacs, do you want me…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 04:21:58 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
Customer goes to a car dealership, picks the car he wants but it isn't in stock,…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 04:12:00 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
I'm hoping to find a discussion board that I can post on to get some more legal…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 01:56:58 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
I'm hoping to find a discussion board that I can post on to get some more legal…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 01:54:49 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
can you show where it says they are not explicitly allowed to cancel the agreeme…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 01:29:43 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
can you show where it says they are not explicitly allowed to cancel the agreeme…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 01:22:42 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
"wrongfully fails to deliver or repudiates" they did not "fail to deliver" or "w…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 01:12:05 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
"wrongfully fails to deliver or repudiates" they did not "fail to deliver" or "w…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 12:49:37 PM |
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BFL Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
Hello Mr. Obvious Socketpuppet is Obvious.Some quality argumentative skills bein…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 12:46:47 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
Here are also the Missouri UCC provisions:http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c400.h…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 12:41:00 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
Now on the point of rights of buyers under UCC:Quote§ 2-712. "Cover"; Buyer's P…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 12:39:21 PM |
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BFL Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
[You can file in your local jurisdiction since Butterfly Labs sells online. Ask…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 12:31:42 PM |
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BFL Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
[You can file in your local jurisdiction since Butterfly Labs sells online. Ask…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 12:17:00 PM |
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BFL Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
[You can file in your local jurisdiction since Butterfly Labs sells online. Ask…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 12:12:38 PM |
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BFL Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
[You can file in your local jurisdiction since Butterfly Labs sells online. Ask…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 26, 2013, 11:58:34 AM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
seriously the nature of argument doesn't have to adversarial It isn't my friend.…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 08:49:25 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
war . ..it's all the art of war. . .and your FUDjust Missing a timeline ...... i…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 08:45:52 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
seriously the nature of argument doesn't have to adversarial It isn't my friend.…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 08:37:34 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
seriously the nature of argument doesn't have to adversarial It isn't my friend.…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 08:29:42 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
seriously the nature of argument doesn't have to adversarial It isn't my friend.…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 08:18:54 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
seriously the nature of argument doesn't have to adversarial It isn't my friend.…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 08:14:29 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
I am clearly very dumb.Nulla et massa vitae tortor condimentum vestibulum. Keep…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 08:09:26 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
seriously the nature of argument doesn't have to adversarial
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 08:03:37 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
The real question is PL .. did you get my postcards? Send it to my current addre…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 08:02:34 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
The ones who shout the loudest have avalon asics and they really, really, really…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 08:01:34 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
war . ..it's all the art of war. . .and your FUD
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 08:00:27 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
You are ignoring one thing...Are you an avalon asic owner k9quaint? - you don't…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 07:59:06 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
I think that instead of focusing totally on ones self in the "WHATS IN IT FOR ME…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 07:57:08 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
Keep going.. it only serves to prove my point. Dare I ask what your point is, ot…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 07:54:37 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
oh oh oh. . .wait. . I forgot one thing. . . eat a bag of dicksSee, I don't thin…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 07:52:45 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
This is exactly what Josh would have said/done.QuoteDate Registered: November 03…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 07:48:48 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
I am clearly very dumb.Nulla et massa vitae tortor condimentum vestibulum. Keep…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 07:48:10 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
This is exactly what Josh would have said/done.QuoteDate Registered: November 03…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 07:46:23 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
This is exactly what Josh would have said/done.QuoteDate Registered: November 03…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 07:42:10 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
This is exactly what Josh would have said/done.QuoteDate Registered: November 03…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 07:34:43 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
This is exactly what Josh would have said/done.QuoteDate Registered: November 03…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 07:33:12 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
yours? No. Yours. I look forward to you letting us know how many units you ship…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 07:28:07 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
I am clearly very dumb.Nulla et massa vitae tortor condimentum vestibulum. Keep…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 07:27:09 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
QuoteDo they collect sales tax?Why the fuck didn't I think of this earlier! Eith…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 07:22:23 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
The ones who shout the loudest have avalon asics and they really, really, really…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 06:32:49 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
The ones who shout the loudest have avalon asics and they really, really, really…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 06:26:53 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
A more apt analogy:You pay in advance entrance fee to a club...Club turns out to…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 06:24:03 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
the Implied contract your talking about is covered under UCC there it the revisi…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 06:20:37 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
A more apt analogy:You pay in advance entrance fee to a club...Club turns out to…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 06:07:42 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
You are ignoring one thing...Are you an avalon asic owner k9quaint? - you don't…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 06:03:39 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
QuoteThen you come here and warn people, but get insulted by low post count noob…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 05:59:39 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
A more apt analogy:You pay in advance entrance fee to a club...Club turns out to…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 05:57:24 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
we're gonna hash like the well funded bitches we are. That's a quality comment…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 05:55:42 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
There is no 'breach of contract', any business can perfectly legally refuse you…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 05:49:39 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
we're gonna hash like the well funded bitches we are. That's a quality comment…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 04:18:25 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
There is no 'breach of contract', any business can perfectly legally refuse you…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 04:16:36 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
we're gonna hash like the well funded bitches we are. That's a quality comment…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 04:11:29 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
There is no 'breach of contract', any business can perfectly legally refuse you…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 04:03:56 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
Over the past 11 months there has been a steady stream of low post count people…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 03:36:16 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
I understand and have read that law. But for that to stick you have to prove in…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 03:32:49 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
That's another way of assessing it I'm just saying from a risk management persp…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 03:21:10 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
I understand and have read that law. But for that to stick you have to prove in…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 03:09:23 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
That's how you do rational, courteous threads. You do not write "Feel like defe…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 03:01:46 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
BFL aside, for me, nothing about this seems to be sincere from xian. I'd agree…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 02:58:09 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
I understand and have read that law. But for that to stick you have to prove in…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 02:47:43 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
I understand and have read that law. But for that to stick you have to prove in…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 02:04:56 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
You are part of the problem... simple as that. BFL is cancerous it should be cu…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 01:56:11 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
That's another way of assessing it I'm just saying from a risk management persp…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 01:49:38 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
No let's keep the thread up and let us continue to add to the mountain of horses…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 01:48:25 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
That's another way of assessing it I'm just saying from a risk management persp…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 01:15:58 PM |
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ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It Securities
With regard to growing Asicminer's total hash rate to more than the current 20s%…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 01:07:06 PM |
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ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It Securities
With regard to growing Asicminer's total hash rate to more than the current 20s%…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 01:03:58 PM |
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ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It Securities
With regard to growing Asicminer's total hash rate to more than the current 20s%…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 12:55:35 PM |
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ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It Securities
(...) At 40% AM would receive 2400 a day on average (40% of the average of 6000…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 12:47:02 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
lol nm it just ironically popped up on my screen lol
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 12:33:53 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
This is not about Xian (although Endlessa would like you to believe it is, now t…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 12:18:57 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
No let's keep the thread up and let us continue to add to the mountain of horses…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 12:10:15 PM |
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Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders Hardware
Great scenario, but in the instance your speaking of there would something calle…
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n/a | Endlessa | May 25, 2013, 11:44:42 AM |
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