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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
^@these prices, you Made a good deal In a foreseeable future.... take your time…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 16, 2019, 01:36:27 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
present time is open to attacks or feared attacks.ETH fork constantinople is pos…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 16, 2019, 12:52:56 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
I don't think anyone cares about Bakkt one way or another at this point. What ev…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 16, 2019, 12:46:51 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
A 'pebble' falling from several kilometers (without any acceleration except for…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 16, 2019, 12:24:52 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Indeed, it will be the Zimbabwean dollar of crypto.QuoteIf you don't believe me…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 16, 2019, 12:23:03 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Well, if it's infinite it won't be worth anything. That's Economics 101.No it's…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 16, 2019, 12:12:18 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
We already have Binance in Europe. Launches Binance JerseyCrypto Exchange Binanc…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 16, 2019, 11:34:06 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
So what's the plan guys? If Grin works out well, bitcoin devs shove all that tec…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 16, 2019, 11:15:55 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
^breaking news: tomorrow is wednesday Fuck you are right! I don't even know what…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 16, 2019, 01:05:27 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
ETH fork delayed due to a security flaw found by an external teameth dev chatroo…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 16, 2019, 12:57:44 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
ETH's "valid use case" today is it's facilitation of scams (including ICOs), so…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 16, 2019, 12:50:40 AM |
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GAME game *game* "GAME" QUARTER PREDICTIONS Speculation
$4250Quite the list Mic!Hey this is out of order.4444 F2b4949 kaicrypzen45…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 15, 2019, 10:50:51 PM |
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[XMR] Monero Speculation Speculation (Altcoins)
In the past hacks and exit scams have sometimes had an effect on the XMR price.h…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 15, 2019, 06:10:23 PM |
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Why you shouldnt be shorting Altcoin Discussion
Well this topic didn't age well did it?
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n/a | Hueristic | January 15, 2019, 02:24:16 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Anybody who brings up race-based conspiracies in a bitcoin forum earns a permane…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 15, 2019, 02:22:17 AM |
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CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE Meta
If I were to say "buy silver" then would my post be deleted for being off topic…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 15, 2019, 02:21:17 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Anybody who brings up race-based conspiracies in a bitcoin forum earns a permane…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 15, 2019, 02:19:43 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
@Searing - If you didn’t sell at $19,000, didn’t sell at $15,000, didn’t sell at…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 15, 2019, 02:15:54 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg49233859#msg49233859congrats…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 15, 2019, 12:49:15 AM |
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CENSORED FORUM, ANYTHING NEGATIVE Meta
If I were to say "buy silver" then would my post be deleted for being off topic…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 15, 2019, 12:08:44 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
OTC Buying Pressure Increaseshttps://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/01/the-week…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 14, 2019, 11:16:47 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
When I was younger I was able to sleep in the middle of a death metal concert. N…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 14, 2019, 10:55:33 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
What's the saying? Oh yeah. The market can stay irrational longer than you can s…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 14, 2019, 09:45:02 PM |
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[ANN] Grin | PoW Mining | Electronic transactions for all. Community driven. Announcements (Altcoins)
Don't you think infinite supply will play role of pressure element on he price o…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 14, 2019, 10:58:45 AM |
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[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency Announcements (Altcoins)
If someone so busy he can't spend 5 sec to look on the hashrate charts, I will h…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 14, 2019, 10:41:04 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Actually EOS is where it is at. Centralized blacklisting of addresses is exactly…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 14, 2019, 01:20:14 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
What are the hats in aid of?They're all ripple shills. They seem to get everywhe…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 13, 2019, 11:58:44 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
I am a drunk with hygiene issues and a degenerate gambler.My name is Spaceman S…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 13, 2019, 11:48:02 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
via Imgflip Meme GeneratorFor those understanding poker ..... I raise preflop, f…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 13, 2019, 11:35:23 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Do a flip.This reminds me, everytime I walk by a place with roofers I yell "Jump…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 13, 2019, 11:33:25 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Doing cleaning.Google Reportedly Blacklists Ethereum as a Google Ad Keyword, Sta…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 13, 2019, 06:12:54 PM |
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[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency Announcements (Altcoins)
It's not even remotely sillyRunning around screaming "ATTACK!!!" without knowing…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 13, 2019, 05:02:19 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
https://ocean.builders/the-worlds-first-seastead-is-in-the-water/World's first s…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 13, 2019, 12:26:41 AM |
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GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) Service Discussion
Oh FFS. Will this ever end? Just put him in jail and depose him there, what diff…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 12, 2019, 11:41:26 PM |
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[XMR] Monero Speculation Speculation (Altcoins)
There's also a part three from a week or so ago:https://i2p.rocks/blog/kovri-and…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 12, 2019, 11:30:35 PM |
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How To Mine GRIN - GrinGoldMiner AMD & Nvidia GPU Mining Guide For WINDOWS Mining (Altcoins)
What is stock rx-580 expected rate?
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n/a | Hueristic | January 12, 2019, 10:27:29 PM |
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[ANN] Grin | PoW Mining | Electronic transactions for all. Community driven. Announcements (Altcoins)
And no DEV Tax like Beams 20%, SWEET!
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n/a | Hueristic | January 12, 2019, 07:02:30 PM |
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Acorn M.2 FPGA based GPU Accelerator Mining (Altcoins)
Hello, and great work on your unique project!Will any drivers or programs be req…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 12, 2019, 06:10:23 PM |
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[XMR] Monero Speculation Speculation (Altcoins)
Pretty shaky start of the year. First Fortnite, then Kovri drama, then Fortnite…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 12, 2019, 05:33:04 PM |
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[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency Announcements (Altcoins)
"Not really. The unknown hashrate is just... unknown. It's not all controlled by…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 12, 2019, 05:29:59 PM |
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n/a | Hueristic | January 11, 2019, 10:55:23 PM |
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[ANN] Grin | PoW Mining | Electronic transactions for all. Community driven. Announcements (Altcoins)
infinite supply? this is first time to see POW with infinite supply. Tail emissi…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 10, 2019, 04:00:49 PM |
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[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency Announcements (Altcoins)
ANYONE mining or using Beam.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5052151.msg4…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 10, 2019, 03:22:22 PM |
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[ANN] BEAM | Mimblewimble | Private | Scalable | No ICO | No Pre Mine Announcements (Altcoins)
About the Vulnerability Team Beam discovered on January 9th, 2019. https://medi…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 10, 2019, 03:17:10 PM |
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Acorn M.2 FPGA based GPU Accelerator Mining (Altcoins)
Yeah a ton of people were dropped from the default list and others added, mine w…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 10, 2019, 03:14:09 PM |
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[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency Announcements (Altcoins)
Circle/Poloniex doing an AMA on /r/cryptocurrency:https://np.reddit.com/r/Crypto…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 10, 2019, 01:07:41 PM |
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[XMR] Monero Speculation Speculation (Altcoins)
Found it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/ae4keu/kidnappers_demand_mone…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 10, 2019, 12:42:38 PM |
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[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency Announcements (Altcoins)
Can't say I know wtf is going on here but I don't like the bolded. Monero is a t…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 09, 2019, 04:54:00 PM |
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[ANN] BEAM | Mimblewimble | Private | Scalable | No ICO | No Pre Mine Announcements (Altcoins)
SPARKPOOL does not publish blocks minedSPARKPOOL has over 60% of the networkfor…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 08, 2019, 06:47:31 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Link?Is everything alright Jay?JJGs shortest post ever, and an answer that made…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 08, 2019, 05:44:58 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
I "mined" most of my bitcoin playing poker... I was inspired years ago to write…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 08, 2019, 04:55:56 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
so if you are not sheep, your post will be deleted.Nope but if your a dickhead y…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 08, 2019, 03:50:51 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
have sold some shitcoins and converted them back into BTC, sended them to a wall…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 08, 2019, 12:31:54 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
I read 'em allWO is the only "social media" I engage...so there's that...+1Just…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 08, 2019, 12:26:58 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
I would never use a wallet that has the potential to jump an air gap.fucking BIN…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 08, 2019, 12:04:53 PM |
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GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) Service Discussion
Where the fuck is this piece of shit?
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n/a | Hueristic | January 07, 2019, 11:43:12 PM |
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[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency Announcements (Altcoins)
this is interesting (sorry if repost)Breaking Monero Episode 02: Ring Signatures…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 07, 2019, 11:40:56 PM |
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[ANN] BEAM | Mimblewimble | Private | Scalable | No ICO | No Pre Mine Announcements (Altcoins)
So whats the total Dev tax paid out now?
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n/a | Hueristic | January 07, 2019, 11:21:45 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
As an aside, I wonder if the 51% attack will negatively affect confidence (and p…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 07, 2019, 11:19:41 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
I would never use a wallet that has the potential to jump an air gap.fucking BIN…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 07, 2019, 11:11:07 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
https://twitter.com/eth_classichttps://twitter.com/etherchain_org/status/1082329…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 07, 2019, 10:30:30 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
OK, you win if you can get one Core Dev to agree with your assertion that a seco…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 07, 2019, 02:03:14 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
https://sludgefeed.com/fortnites-retail-store-removes-monero/Non-story, as Tim S…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 07, 2019, 01:58:05 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Anyone 80x? Because I feel like I should have 80xed.Oh the bright side. Looks li…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 07, 2019, 01:38:28 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
No it isn't. Just because 99.9999999999999% of people right now don't own Bitcoi…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 07, 2019, 01:35:45 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
No it isn't. Just because 99.9999999999999% of people right now don't own Bitcoi…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 07, 2019, 01:28:03 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Ledger Unveils New Nano X Hardware Wallet at CES 2019[..]https://www.ledger.fr/2…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 07, 2019, 01:25:35 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
BTC is the best for store of value but is still unable to handle the world at la…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 07, 2019, 01:17:41 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
https://twitter.com/BigRektsI'd love to see a week of this.
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n/a | Hueristic | January 07, 2019, 01:15:12 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/1081541185921941509Just look at the comment…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 07, 2019, 01:00:44 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Enough with the bitchez. Serious now. What do you guys think about these picture…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 07, 2019, 12:26:04 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
^^^--- still feeding the roach i see, nothing changes here.Andrew deSantis FUD.…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 07, 2019, 12:03:43 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
W0w I figured out the trick, don't look at the price for the days and then bam a…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 06, 2019, 11:45:23 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Thanks Globb0, it seems like a nice community here and I should check it more! T…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 05, 2019, 11:44:36 AM |
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[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency Announcements (Altcoins)
According tohttps://miningpoolstats.stream/moneroXMR Network hash rate = 392.28…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 04, 2019, 02:45:45 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Hi Bob, Classy enough? Hi forum, Tell me again that this is only a gentlemen's…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 03, 2019, 07:07:45 PM |
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[ANN] BEAM | Mimblewimble | Private | Scalable | No ICO | No Pre Mine Announcements (Altcoins)
Has anyone got this running in a linux vm opencl?
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n/a | Hueristic | January 03, 2019, 05:48:19 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation |
n/a | Hueristic | January 03, 2019, 05:35:01 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
I think "Proof of Keys" is an unnecessary burden to the Bitcoin & exchange netwo…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 03, 2019, 11:12:54 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Why do I get the feeling that something is up for later this afternoon.Like an i…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 03, 2019, 11:10:30 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Red flag!HitBTC freezes customers accounts ahead of Proof of Keys Event...https:…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 03, 2019, 11:02:46 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
^^^ hope that wasn't a response to my post as I don't read yours.
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n/a | Hueristic | January 02, 2019, 10:41:14 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Meh, he just wants to dump his bags. I’m perfectly cool with that. Just this is…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 02, 2019, 10:35:14 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Hey Jbear have you gone all in on SV yet? If not, what’s the hold up?Jeebus. Th…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 02, 2019, 10:26:35 PM |
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BEAM Mining - New Equihash 150/5 Algorithm Mining (Altcoins)
BEAM is one of the two main projects (along with GRIN) that are implementing Mim…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 01, 2019, 11:49:47 PM |
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Beam-MW Mining Pool Pools (Altcoins)
OK, Going to be gone for a week, how do I setup to have miner join a pool on lau…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 01, 2019, 11:49:00 PM |
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[ANN] BEAM | Mimblewimble | Private | Scalable | No ICO | No Pre Mine Announcements (Altcoins)
OK, Going to be gone for a week, how do I setup to have miner join a pool on lau…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 01, 2019, 11:43:16 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Today may be bad but at least it's better than tomorrow.
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n/a | Hueristic | January 01, 2019, 07:45:43 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
are we all waiting for jan 3rd proof of keys ? Market is boring as hellSome exch…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 01, 2019, 07:00:10 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1080122112935895040monero does the hippest…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 01, 2019, 06:59:13 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
I discuss the whole content of that video in this thread: https://bitcointalk.or…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 01, 2019, 06:49:41 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Yes! I created a vanity address 1Go4it... , generated a paper wallet, funded i…
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n/a | Hueristic | January 01, 2019, 11:29:06 AM |
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[XMR] Monero Speculation Speculation (Altcoins)
Happy New Year to all Monero Hodlers!
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n/a | Hueristic | December 31, 2018, 02:23:45 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Last charts of the year WO's , have a safe and happy New Year. ... #stronghands2…
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n/a | Hueristic | December 31, 2018, 02:16:50 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Private key==bitcoin.I... am confused as to why anyone here would be confused ab…
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n/a | Hueristic | December 31, 2018, 02:10:35 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Okay guys, there seems to be some misunderstanding with respect to paper wallet…
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n/a | Hueristic | December 31, 2018, 02:06:53 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
I discuss the whole content of that video in this thread: https://bitcointalk.or…
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n/a | Hueristic | December 31, 2018, 01:49:22 PM |
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[b]GUESS LIST CLOSEST TO ATH @END OF THIS YEAR[/b] Speculation
Its all GLOBBO's fault!
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n/a | Hueristic | December 31, 2018, 01:41:44 PM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Last charts of the year WO's , have a safe and happy New Year. ... #stronghands2…
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n/a | Hueristic | December 31, 2018, 11:41:54 AM |
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Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion Speculation
Still busy its becoming a monster sessionWon back my btc amount of last time “ex…
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n/a | Hueristic | December 30, 2018, 09:31:29 PM |
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