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hero member
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🎟️ MoneroKon ticket giveway
Thanks to eXch.cx we'll be giving away 4 MoneroKon tickets for 🆓FREE🆓 

To be added to the giveaway, just leave a comment in the thread on the OrangeFren Forum: https://forum.orangefren.com/showthread.php?tid=10
The winners will be selected on Monday the 13th of May at 4:00 PM UTC

Small bump, as we have more or less 1 day left to participate to the ticket giveaway!
hero member
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Good luck with the giveaway, I hope you'll be able to attend! Unfortunately we don't have any plans to record the meetup, but Monerokon is recorded in its entirety usually.

I will be for sure in Monerokon, but my question about recording the meetup was about the one in Lugano that you organize Smiley
newbie
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Here's some good news!
I've signed up and applied for the Monerokon giveaway; it's a great initiative; thanks again to you and eXch for the opportunity!
Unfortunately I'll be far from Lugano at the end of May, I'd have liked to attend the meet-up. Will it be recorded or something for those who missed the party?  Cheesy

Your affiliate system looks cool, I will give it a try even if I have only 2 referrals links for now lol
Good luck with the giveaway, I hope you'll be able to attend! Unfortunately we don't have any plans to record the meetup, but Monerokon is recorded in its entirety usually.

If you just have the ref links for the most popular services then I wouldn't bother creating ones for the others. Top 2-3 services collect >80% of the traffic and you don't need more than 1 ref link to use the OrangeFren Affiliate Programme
hero member
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Here's some good news!
I've signed up and applied for the Monerokon giveaway; it's a great initiative; thanks again to you and eXch for the opportunity!
Unfortunately I'll be far from Lugano at the end of May, I'd have liked to attend the meet-up. Will it be recorded or something for those who missed the party?  Cheesy

Your affiliate system looks cool, I will give it a try even if I have only 2 referrals links for now lol
newbie
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Hello frens! We have a lot of news so we'll be breaking this post up into sections.

🧡 OrangeFren Forum
We're excited to announce the launch of the 🧡 OrangeFren Forum 🥳. A new bulletin board style forum for the cypherpunks in Bitcoin and Monero.

Link: forum.orangefren.com

The forum already has threads by:
  • WizardSwap instant exchange
  • Liberation.travel geographical arbitrage travel agency
  • Stealths.net no KYC prepaid card provider
  • kycnot.me OG directory of no KYC exchanges & services
  • Cryptosteel manufacturer of metal mnemonic backup solutions

The last ones even offer a 5% discount on order made by OrangeFren Forum users 🏷️
If you run a service that caters to the cypherpunk community, or are looking for a forum for persistent, long, discussion then join the OrangeFren Forum 😎

🎟️ MoneroKon ticket giveway
Thanks to eXch.cx we'll be giving away 4 MoneroKon tickets for 🆓FREE🆓 

To be added to the giveaway, just leave a comment in the thread on the OrangeFren Forum: https://forum.orangefren.com/showthread.php?tid=10
The winners will be selected on Monday the 13th of May at 4:00 PM UTC

🇨🇭🇮🇹 Lugano meetup sponsored by eXch
Thanks to eXch.cx OrangeFren.com is organising a meet-up in Lugano, Switzerland 🇨🇭, in two weeks on Sunday the 26th of May.

Where? Impact Hub Ticino, Via Antonio Ciseri 3, 6900 Lugano, Switzerland 🇨🇭
When? From 15:00 on Sunday the 26th of May

👉 Sign up here: https://orangefren.com/event/16 👈

🤝 OrangeFren Affiliate Programme
Lastly, we're excited to announce the OrangeFren Affiliate Programme 🤝

The programme works by you providing us with your existing ref links to any of the services we list on the website. Then, when a user visits OrangeFren.com using your link, we'll replace our ref links with yours for all the services that you provided us your link for.

This means, your profit share is 100%! And we never hold custody of your affiliate earnings.

You'll find the link to join the footer of OrangeFren.com
newbie
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For now it's the same. In the future we will add more cards and negotiate better terms for our users. As to modifying the website, yes, good point. Added to the todo list.
I guess no more 3ds-enabled cards after recent update from Stealths partners  Tongue
Indeed... The law changed just as we integrated them. Well, at least we still have non-3DS cards that can be added to Google Pay and Apple Pay and used in-store. As well as the OrangeFren Broker Partner that can deliver physical cash to you in most large European cities.

So, today we joined TrustPilot. If you used OrangeFren.com before and would like to leave a review then you can do see here: trustpilot.com/review/orangefren.com Smiley
There must be some better alternative for trustpilot.
I saw so many fake reviews for services there, and many scam websites also used trustpilot with bunch of paid reviews.
We're working on a solution to this very problem. It'll be public by the end of the week Wink
legendary
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For now it's the same. In the future we will add more cards and negotiate better terms for our users. As to modifying the website, yes, good point. Added to the todo list.
I guess no more 3ds-enabled cards after recent update from Stealths partners  Tongue

I never heard of Satochip, I'll look into it.
It's open source hardware wallet, bearer, and seedphrase storage in format of credit card.
Cool thing that you can even use blank sim java cards and load firmware:
https://satochip.io/product/blank-sim-javacard-for-diy-project/
https://satochip.io/product/card-for-diy-project/

So, today we joined TrustPilot. If you used OrangeFren.com before and would like to leave a review then you can do see here: trustpilot.com/review/orangefren.com Smiley
There must be some better alternative for trustpilot.
I saw so many fake reviews for services there, and many scam websites also used trustpilot with bunch of paid reviews.
newbie
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We were asked by some users to create a way to leave a feedback about OrangeFren.com.

So, today we joined TrustPilot. If you used OrangeFren.com before and would like to leave a review then you can do see here: trustpilot.com/review/orangefren.com Smiley
newbie
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Today we added 3DS-enabled prepaid Visa cards
Is this the same as buying directly from Stealths website, in terms of fees and everything else?
One suggestion is to think about doing some redesign of OrangeFren website, to make it easier to know this cards actually exist Wink
For now it's the same. In the future we will add more cards and negotiate better terms for our users. As to modifying the website, yes, good point. Added to the todo list.

I suggest getting one when you travel✈️ or for your kid 👪. For instance I recently traveled to Buenos Aires and a friend I went with was robbed at gunpoint right next to me. But with a prepaid card you can keep your main card in the hotel safe and only loose a few bucks.
Sure, but this is virtual card, not physical, so you would probably have to give them your smartphone (with this card) and everything else you have.
Maybe better to also carry some old and empty cards, blank cards are very cheap and they can also be used as DIY open source hardware wallets and encrypted seed storage (with Satochip) Wink
If you're traveling to a dangerous location I would advise you to take an old phone to carry around. You could load up this old phone with such a virtual card. I never heard of Satochip, I'll look into it.
legendary
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Today we added 3DS-enabled prepaid Visa cards
Is this the same as buying directly from Stealths website, in terms of fees and everything else?
One suggestion is to think about doing some redesign of OrangeFren website, to make it easier to know this cards actually exist Wink

I suggest getting one when you travel✈️ or for your kid 👪. For instance I recently traveled to Buenos Aires and a friend I went with was robbed at gunpoint right next to me. But with a prepaid card you can keep your main card in the hotel safe and only loose a few bucks.
Sure, but this is virtual card, not physical, so you would probably have to give them your smartphone (with this card) and everything else you have.
Maybe better to also carry some old and empty cards, blank cards are very cheap and they can also be used as DIY open source hardware wallets and encrypted seed storage (with Satochip) Wink
newbie
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Today we added 3DS-enabled prepaid Visa cards

No KYC 😎, global coverage (incl. EU🇪🇺) in-store and online. They work just about everywhere we tested. You can add them to Google Wallet or Apple Pay. There's a one-time 5% fee when you buy them, but 0% currency conversion fees thereafter. They won't work in ATMs.

I suggest getting one when you travel✈️ or for your kid 👪. For instance I recently traveled to Buenos Aires and a friend I went with was robbed at gunpoint right next to me. But with a prepaid card you can keep your main card in the hotel safe and only loose a few bucks.

Find them in the Sell tab when you select USD 🔍

Try it out on OrangeFren.com 🧡💚

It goes without saying that even though these products do not require KYC you still ought to report the sale of crypto if your local laws require you to do so, as well as pay any applicable capital gains taxes. 🧑‍⚖️
legendary
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There's a prize of 0.5 Bitcoin for correctly guessing the BTC/USD rate in a few days time. The competition doesn't require any KYC.
Crazy that I predicted very similar bitcoin price in different competition.  Shocked
Congrats to guy who won this reward Wink

We're already doing a Cryptosteel Capsule giveaway together with eXch here on Bitcointalk. We'll be doing a giveaway of MoneroKon tickets soon too, we might do it on Bitcointalk, I'm still not sure
Thank you for that, I appreciate it.
Both OrangeFren and eXch are doing some amazing things, not just with giveaways, but in general how you are operating and working in this crazy conditions of the brave new world.
newbie
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The winner of the r/CC giveaway has been selected (/u/yankeeedooodle) and the prize of 0.5 BTC was delivered to him. Thank you to all who participated!
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In partnership with eXch we are doing a giveaway on Reddit's r/CryptoCurrency subreddit.

There's a prize of 0.5 Bitcoin for correctly guessing the BTC/USD rate in a few days time. The competition doesn't require any KYC.

You can participate here: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1cd7e6w/exch_bitcoin_posthalving_giveaway_competition/

I was so far from the good rate lol, congrats to the winner and well done for the nice giveaway!



Honestly if I had placed a bet I would've been way off too  Cheesy
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In partnership with eXch we are doing a giveaway on Reddit's r/CryptoCurrency subreddit.

There's a prize of 0.5 Bitcoin for correctly guessing the BTC/USD rate in a few days time. The competition doesn't require any KYC.

You can participate here: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1cd7e6w/exch_bitcoin_posthalving_giveaway_competition/

I was so far from the good rate lol, congrats to the winner and well done for the nice giveaway!



newbie
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In partnership with eXch we are doing a giveaway on Reddit's r/CryptoCurrency subreddit.

There's a prize of 0.5 Bitcoin for correctly guessing the BTC/USD rate in a few days time. The competition doesn't require any KYC.
Great reward, but r/CryptoCurrency is known to have very strict rules for posting and commenting anything on their subreddit.
If I may suggest that you create another similar prediction giveaway here in Bitcointalk forum or maybe on X-twitter.


We're already doing a Cryptosteel Capsule giveaway together with eXch here on Bitcointalk. We'll be doing a giveaway of MoneroKon tickets soon too, we might do it on Bitcointalk, I'm still not sure

The OrangeFren Guarantee works through the exchange providing us with a deposit that we hold onto. Then in the event of a dispute with a specific exchange, we are able to, under previously agreed terms, to refund the user directly using the exchange's deposit. ChangeHero has not decided to to provide us with such a deposit, however they have assured us that they will issue a refund in the event of a refusal of undergoing KYC.
Nothing against you or your honesty, but I trust a centralized exchange or swap service to do the right thing as much as I trust any government that the tax revenues they collect will be put to good use. In other words, I don't trust them one bit!

But I have had several positive experiences with eXch, and can only recommend the service to others.
I agree and this is precisely why we came up with the OrangeFren Guarantee. eXch was one of our first partners to provide a deposit so I think they understand this natural lack of trust.


I noticed that your website doesn't have a FAQ or Help section. It might be worth creating one. For instance, I wanted to check which exchanges have an OrangeFren Guarantee, but the information is nowhere to be found on the site. I can complete a search and see it in the results, but there really should be something better.

Thumbs up for the giveaway!

Thanks for the feedback. We'll definitely be adding that.

Great reward, but r/CryptoCurrency is known to have very strict rules for posting and commenting anything on their subreddit.

I think that OP probably benefits from these strict rules to avoid alt-accounts spamming the giveaway no?
Yes, we're seeing a lot of comments getting shadowbanned by Reddit. This is perfect for us, because not only is spam removed, but also it's Reddit's liability if they hide a comment for a genuine user, not ours.
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Great reward, but r/CryptoCurrency is known to have very strict rules for posting and commenting anything on their subreddit.

I think that OP probably benefits from these strict rules to avoid alt-accounts spamming the giveaway no?
legendary
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Farewell, Leo. You will be missed!
The OrangeFren Guarantee works through the exchange providing us with a deposit that we hold onto. Then in the event of a dispute with a specific exchange, we are able to, under previously agreed terms, to refund the user directly using the exchange's deposit. ChangeHero has not decided to to provide us with such a deposit, however they have assured us that they will issue a refund in the event of a refusal of undergoing KYC.
Nothing against you or your honesty, but I trust a centralized exchange or swap service to do the right thing as much as I trust any government that the tax revenues they collect will be put to good use. In other words, I don't trust them one bit!

But I have had several positive experiences with eXch, and can only recommend the service to others.


I noticed that your website doesn't have a FAQ or Help section. It might be worth creating one. For instance, I wanted to check which exchanges have an OrangeFren Guarantee, but the information is nowhere to be found on the site. I can complete a search and see it in the results, but there really should be something better.

Thumbs up for the giveaway!
legendary
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You are correct about the risk. The service is provided by a partner that we have a lot of trust towards and that people we know also trust. We will be implementing some form of a guarantee, just like the existing OrangeFren Guarantee, in the future. But for that to be enforceable we'd need to move all communications to a place that allows us to see it. We need all the facts to do dispute resolution. We're looking into how to make it happen.
Thank you for explaining, and good to hear you have plans to improve this service.

In partnership with eXch we are doing a giveaway on Reddit's r/CryptoCurrency subreddit.

There's a prize of 0.5 Bitcoin for correctly guessing the BTC/USD rate in a few days time. The competition doesn't require any KYC.
Great reward, but r/CryptoCurrency is known to have very strict rules for posting and commenting anything on their subreddit.
If I may suggest that you create another similar prediction giveaway here in Bitcointalk forum or maybe on X-twitter.
hero member
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In partnership with eXch we are doing a giveaway on Reddit's r/CryptoCurrency subreddit.

There's a prize of 0.5 Bitcoin for correctly guessing the BTC/USD rate in a few days time. The competition doesn't require any KYC.

You can participate here: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1cd7e6w/exch_bitcoin_posthalving_giveaway_competition/

Wow thank you - to both of you eXch and OrangeFren - for such a great giveaway! WTF 0.5 BTC guys, this is a decade of basic salary in many countries. This is a great idea as r/CryptoCurrency is a very active subreddit, and I think a lot of people will enjoy to discover your services and find it useful.
I entered my guess and hope to be lucky Grin
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