Topic: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing - page 12. (Read 4385 times)

You're a rather strange one, TS. You know that juries rule in court, yet you try to hide that you know. Why? Are you an attorney who realizes that if people found out about it, you just might lose a bunch of clients? Or are you in a position where you have to play devil's advocate because of what your 'companions' might think of you?

Anyway, the court cases are open to anybody who wants to go and look at them. There are many law libraries that have loads of court cases where juries made the decisions in ways they wanted, rather than what the judge wanted.

Actually these laws still exist:



And the judge dismissed the charges before the jury even began deliberations.


Try again.

One single example of a law being struck down by a jury.

The jury did this...

Bundy Brothers Acquitted in Takeover of Oregon Wildlife Refuge - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Bundy+Brothers+Acquitted+in+Takeover+of+Oregon+Wildlife+Refuge&ia=web.

So, for whatever laws the Bundy brothers and their accomplices broke, the Jury struck these laws down in their cases.

This does not mean that the next time they did it, that the juries would act the same way. It also does not mean that the juries would act the same way for other people.

What it shows is that here is a start towards a certain precedent. If more juries acted this way, government might change the laws or repeal them.

If you get into reading American case law, you will find that juries have done this kind of thing all over the place... including reversing 'debts' owed so that the other side owed the money.

The problem that dumBAss has is that his youtube mentors from China only provide a basic disinformation service. Him being either Chinese or maybe Texan (they are not that different really), is probably not willing to pay the extra for the "enhanced disinformation service" which includes receiving some short of answer to questions.

No, juries do not strike down no shit. dumBAss is simply banking on having a jury trial and the coercing the jury by threats and organised violence to exonerate Trump no matter the evidence. Anyone wonders why Trump is judged under the RICO act?

Two states have already excluded Trump from the primaries ballot, Colorado an Maine. In some others the plaintiffs have renounced to carry on with the process and many are pending decisions. One the supreme court decides on the Colorado ruling, the US will have some certainty on how the campaign is going to look like.

It may happen that if Trump does not run, Biden would not either.

That's a funny way of saying "I can't give you an example of an actual criminal trial in the real world where a jury 'struck down a law', because that's not what juries do.  I guess you were right, sorry for making all that stuff up!"

Wow! Thanks, TS. I never realized how much I meant to you, before. Keep up the good work. And while you're at it, try to understand what is going on a little. True, you're not as bad as some, who quote the answer to their question right above the question. Rather, you do it below. Lol!

Now it seems that Trump was right, and Georgia lied.


Going Viral: New Evidence Suggests There Was Never Voting Machine Election Audit Performed in Georgia Following 2020 Election – Raffensperger Caught Again!

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/12/going-viral-new-evidence-suggests-there-was-never/
There is currently no evidence that there was ever a voting machine election audit performed in Georgia following the 2020 election.

On November 17, 2020, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger made an announcement that an audit "using forensic techniques" was completed with "no sign of foul play" in the 2020 election. The statement previously appeared on the Secretary of State's webpage and is still available via the Wayback Machine here.

Investigative journalist Kevin Moncla of the Election Oversight Group, and another individual began to send Open Records Requests from the counties that were allegedly "audited" back in 2022.  While Raffensperger's statement says there were six counties "audited," the Pro V&V memo only listed four:  Floyd County (Rome, GA), Douglas County (Douglasville, GA), Paulding County (Dallas, GA), and Cobb County (Marietta, GA).
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My new years resolution is to keep track of all the times BADecker ignores a direct question in response to one of his ridiculous claims and shifts the topic to something equally ridiculous but different.

Here's two to start:

Just to show you how deep and dark the Deep State is, look at the things that are finally coming out about the Mar-a-Lago raid. Read the article at the below site. Read it slowly and thoughtfully, to understand how bad many of the agencies in the US government really are.

I know, I know. If you are blatantly, pointedly, dead set against Trump, you won't really care about how bad the FBI is. In your mind they are simply doing bad things so that good may result. Doesn't really make sense. But that's how some of you seem to think.


The DC Establishment Is Deeply Concerned That Trump May Have Copies Of His Declassified Binder

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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dc-establishment-deeply-concerned-trump-may-have-copies-his-declassified-binder
According to CNN:

"A binder containing highly classified information related to Russian election interference went missing at the end of Donald Trump's presidency, raising alarms among intelligence officials that some of the most closely guarded national security secrets from the US and its allies could be exposed, sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

"Its disappearance, which has not been previously reported, was so concerning that intelligence officials briefed Senate Intelligence Committee leaders last year about the missing materials and the government's efforts to retrieve them, the sources said.

"In the two-plus years since Trump left office, the missing intelligence does not appear to have been found."

All very breathless and conspiratorial sounding. Which, of course, is the entire point.

But the problem for CNN is that there never was any Russian collusion. It was all a giant hoax. Nor was there any real Russian election interference. No more so than any other year. And no more than what the United States does in Russia.

It was all part of a giant fraud that CNN helped to perpetrate in order to hamstring the Trump presidency. So when CNN claims, "The binder contained raw intelligence the US and its NATO allies collected on Russians and Russian agents, including sources and methods that informed the US government's assessment that Russian President Vladimir Putin sought to help Trump win the 2016 election," what they are really referring to is the proof that Trump amassed of the FBI's efforts to interfere in the 2016 election.
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Finally, we have an agreement!! I am absolutely Ok with Trump being a martyr. The more martyr the better. Look, I can help you with a few suggestions of what you can do with him, if it works as an inspiration for you guys. Allow me to suggest he follows other famous martyr´s examples for your dumBAsstic benefit:

- Mandela: 27 (twenty seven) years in prison.
- Saint Peter: Crucified upside'down.



- Father Luis Jaime, killed by the Americans. The original ones, not the invasive white people.



And the last suggestion - but feel free to ask for more

I think you're confusing fantasy land of make believe (Badeckerville) and reality.  But maybe I'm wrong.
Give me one example (in the real world, in a real federal or state criminal trial) of a jury "striking down a law".

If this happens, Trump will become a far greater martyr for the people than he has become already. It might get the people to finally act instead of relying on elected officials. I don't know if the Dems are willing to go that far.

Because they are desperate. It is not that Biden, the democrats or the republicans have failed them, it is that absolutely every single government has failed them. The convict population of black, Hispanic and other minorities in the US is disproportionately high, their economic class tend to be much lower than those of the white protestant background. They would vote for anyone promising any change.

The good thing is that Trump may soon get to know that convict population first hand. 

To be fair and even though I do not agree with most of the stuff Trump has done and said in his political career, I have indeed heard some left political commentators to point out there seems to have been some increasing support for Trump coming for Black people and also Hispanic people in the United States, I don't know they reasons so your guesses are as good as mine, but it is a phenomenon the Democrat party is not supposed to ignore if they actually plan or care to have a chance to Defeat Trump next year.

My personal theory is that there could be a percentage of Black people and Hispanic people who identify themselves as swing voters and have the impression democrat politicians have not paid attention or have not cared to stick to their previous campaign promises. Of course, polling can always be wrong, as these lastest elections have showed Republicans, but the Blue party is not supposed to sleep on the job when Democracy is at stake and their biggest for seems to accumulate more and more support.

What does your comment^^ even have to do with this thread?

As for me, how else can anyone logically comment to a shitpost thread? Blacks for Trump simply shows that blacks understand that the cases against Trump are anti-American rather than anti-Trump.

What does you shitpost have to do with the topic of this thread?

What does blacks for Trump have to do with his being investigated? All it shows is that you like to focus on the little things. You complain about the fly in your bowl of soup, but swallow the camel.

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Lie? You mean like Trump is not being investigated with the RICO act? Like the links I post are not really there? Like the quotes I make from well documented public sources are false? You would need to be a bit more clear with which bits of my post you disagree with.

My posting is clearly making a point of NOT using mobs for political purposes. If you want to twist facts, you really need to be far more smart than the dumbass you are BA.

If you happen to know Soros, or for that matter anyone who is willing to pay me for posting more than my signature sponsor, please let me know. My sig is for sale, with minimal restrictions on content of course.

It's these blacks, and other of their stripe, who are against mobs. They want to do things legally and peacefully. They are against the mob tactics, especially of the likes of BLM and Antifa... Soros appointees.

So, what about you? Seems that your violent and vehement comments are mob oriented. Are you paid by Soros? You wouldn't lie, now, would you?

Another mob then? does Trump know amything better than to promote violence from his supporters? Was the attack on the Capitol not enough? The beating of political oponents in their homes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Paul_Pelosi


The Trump mafia working at 100% ...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12898493/FBI-investigates-threats-Colorado-judges-trump-ballot.html#:~:text=The%20judges%20have%20been%20the,kill%20these%20f--kers%27.


This is why Trump cannot be no more. This mob-crazy, the government by an organised criminal organisation ready to exert violence and coercion against a peaceful majority of US citizens trying to be law abiding fellows. And anyone is now going to question why Trump is being investigated under the RICO act, designed for mafias? How is this different from Escobar or Al Capone?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/12/22/law-enforcement-colorado-justices-threats/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/21/trump-colorado-supreme-court-justices-death-threats

Even poor blacks understand that the Dems are doing criminal activity in their attempt to take down the guy who will take down the Dem's criminal world.


The Rise Of Black Support For Trump

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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rise-black-support-trump
But others are becoming louder and prouder in voicing support for former President Donald Trump.

Mark Fisher, co-founder of a Black Lives Matter (BLM) group in Rhode Island, made waves recently with his endorsement of the former president.

"I knew I was going to pay a price for it," Mr. Fisher told The Epoch Times, "but I felt like the benefit of doing it far outweighed the cost of me playing it safe."

Mr. Fisher said he felt obligated "to clear a path" for those who think the way he does.

He and other pro-Trump black people are considered renegades.

That's partly because President Trump's foes have tried to brand him as a racist unworthy of votes from black Americans. But it's also because he's a Republican.

For generations, black leaders and churches have encouraged black people to vote for Democrats, including President Joe Biden.

But the tide seems to be turning. Opinion polls are showing that more black people are willing to break rank, as Mr. Fisher did.

Since President Trump's win in 2016, black support for him has more than tripled, now exceeding 20 percent in some surveys.

Polling suggests that black people and other minorities who once spurned President Trump now appear willing to give his candidacy a fresh look—a trend that could help spell the difference between victory and defeat in the 2024 election.

The Biden campaign didn't respond to a request for comment.

Three main factors appear to be spurring black people to pivot toward President Trump, according to Mr. Fisher and others who spoke to The Epoch Times: the economy, the criminal justice system, and the influence of other black people going public with their support.

Blacks for Trump are on fire outside the Fulton County Jail.
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