Topic: Publicly held Trump trials - ongoing - page 14. (Read 4385 times)

I have told you a million times: youtube is not a credible source of information in general, but those channels that you seen to be following are probably the humour section of some short of outlet.

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There absolutely nothing of what you say on this nor any other amendment. A jury cannot fucking "strike down" any law dumbass, much on the contrary, they have to decide on specific questions about the charges following the criteria setforth in the common law.

Go to kindergarten dumbass.

You are mistaken. America is a Republic. The so-called government is the Democracy. The 6th and 7th Amendments to the Constitution allow a 12-person jury of the Republic to strike down any Government law... with relation to the court circumstances to which they allow themselves to be called.

If you believed your country was still a Democracy (and you clearly don't), you'd realise the lunatic you're rooting for is the one betraying all the principles your nation was founded upon. 

Mike Pence credible? Lol. He turned on his 'boss' and the American people. But that's the kind of people you like, right? Back stabbers. How big of a stabbed-to-death trail would we find in YOUR history if we followed it?

Thanks good advice, I think most people no longer bother and it seems that now he is trying to get keywords and links into the algo, so it may seem that he is playing the game, but can't we all play the game? Not everything is what it looks.

Mike Pence is a big one. He is credible in general, he could have played along with the orange-ambition guy so at least he was ... smart enough? afraid enough? ambitious enough? My guess is that he has no future while Trump is around, so he is going to be motivated on this one, while he has to pretend that is just complying with the law.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/06/politics/mike-pence-georgia-witness-list/index.html

Ha! I see some folks here have got sucked down the BADecker trolling rabbit hole. He loves it.
I gave up debating this moron years ago with all his plethora of asinine threads.
Not worth wasting time. Every veteran on this forum knows he's the village idiot and has him on ignore or just laughs at his lunacy.
Sometimes I'll engage him if I'm bored and had a few, just for a chuckle. And I know I'll get a reply.
I think his whole life consists of trolling the bitcointalk p+s board  with nonsense and nothing else.


And to stay on topic, Mike Pence is gonna be a good witness for the prosecution in the Georgia trial, no doubt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHt6hnLTe5c

You jokers are so funny. You talk about all kinds of abstract ideals, and forget the realities of what is happening. For example. A friend reminded me that gasoline prices are coming down. "See?" he said, "Biden is doing a good job." But this friend couldn't answer when I reminded him that food prices have almost doubled under Biden, and some have more than doubled. And he didn't have anything to say at all when I showed him that gasoline prices went way up under the Biden reign before they started coming back down. So, Biden played the game of screwing America, just like he is playing the game of making it look good, now, so he gets more votes.

Personally, I would rather have America be able to manufacture all its 'stuff', rather than have to depend on foreign countries for anything. And that was what Trump was doing - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55119252.

Bring all the jobs back to America. Make America strong within herself. Then, if other nations want to trade with her, let them bow to America's demands. Don't do any 'bad' to the other nations. Let them play with the US on the terms that the US lays down, or let them do their own thing. After all, the US doesn't need them if they are making America weak. After all, most of the modern conveniences that other nations have came from the US, or were at least started in these nations by the US.

I mean, isn't this kinda what you want for your own countries? Independence from needing to rely on any other nation?

BTW,

Or reelect Biden,

I know that most people here will not get into the details of how stuff arrives at their tables, desks and workplaces, but trying to untangle nearly any supply chain in the US from Mexico, China and a few other countries in Asia is a nightmare. The populist approach of "we will make them play along" or "we will get a better deal" or "we will impose conditions on them" is based on the very stupid assumption that Trump's team is "just smarter".

As it is anything he says - until it comes the time to deliver. Then there comes the lies, the "deep state" not allow it, the fake information "employment is lower", we "care about minorities too",...

That is the problem when you set unrealistic expectations - you have then to work your way out of the mudpit.

Please, let's MUHA - "Make US Honest[/b] Again" and get rid of the cheap populist leader. There has to be something better to offer to the people than you know who.


Speaking of which, it is looking a lot like getting convicted - the topic of this.

Are you aware that economical strategy to bend the will of other countries and nations only work when those targeted countries have relatively tight commerce lines with the USA and her allies, right? Trump indeed tried to use that strategy against China and Mexico, one could have it worked good enough because they dependence of the Mexican and Chinese economy of the USA consumerism. But it is a move you cannot do against countries which rely their imports and exports on Russia/China/India and have null commercial exchange with the USA.
If the military options was never supposed to be effective, USA would have never used it through her history, in my opinion.

What concerns me is how ambiguous the MAGA slogan is, a Great country is quite a different vision, depending whom you ask.

Also, in one of lastest Trump's speeches he said he would not rest until all in America is able to afford a house a vehicle (electric or combustion). Of course, he could not care to give details on how he is planing to make the economy surge to auch levels where everyone can get all of it in less than 4 years...

You said it, "MAGA is whatever Trump decides is the flavour of the day..." . That's exactly what a President does and is supposed to do. Methods for Making America Great Again change along with changing circumstances. The only reason why it might look like Trump "may be telling people two different things in the same day" is, circumstances change that fast at times. It's his duty to change with the circumstance so that he is Making America Great Again.

Attacking other countries doesn't necessarily have anything to do any kind of military threat. It can be done with proper international taxation. If Mexico or any other country won't play along, increase taxation on imports into the US. At the same time, decrease taxes on exports to that country. And change the taxation daily if necessary, based on the results.

Trump as President can change loads of taxation and regulation on internal, US companies, so that they have to change themselves just to survive. But the results will ultimately Make America Great Again.

Because there isn't anything behind the slogan! MAGA is whatever Trump decides is the flavour of the day, to the point that he may be telling people two different things in the same day like during covid.

Anyway the key items are immigration (trying to stop it even threating attacking Mexico and stuff...), international relations - extreme tariffs to imports; "stopping the war in Ukraine in 24 hours", Cozy with Ruzzia, China, North Korea, supporter of Israel, locally lowering taxes and the usual Republican economic agenda. On abortion and civil liberties, he has by now figured out that he will need a much softer approach if he wants to win elections (one day this, next day that).

All this is just a political programme - quite hyperbolic and probably not the right one for the US - but not really a problem. The problem is the already in preparation assault to institutions, putting a set of pre-screened high level civil servants that would not hesitate in breaking the law if asked to. The prep work is being done by "ONGs" that have "no relation to Trump" *wink *wink. That is the real problem, apart with giving wings to every undocumented idiot in the US that has "a theory".

By the way, I have not fully understood the implications or full meaning of the Trump slogan "Make America Great Again". It seems to imply there was a period of time or an era when The United States was "great" or better than it is today.
I wonder what Trump means by it, what was the golden age he intends to take back the nation to? Is he talking about the 80's, the 90's ?
Because it would be a matter of personal opinion and perspective whether those years were actually the greatest for the USA or not, even among Republicans, many of them would disagree when they golden age which they want so much actually took place.

Leaving the USA aside, to me the best years were the early 2000-2010. Probably just because it was my childhood and all was just fun and games. Who knows.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/about-half-us-republicans-could-spurn-trump-if-he-is-convicted-reutersipsos-poll-2023-08-03/


Try again.

Well, you're close. It isn't jail. It's prison... the prison of the Presidency. I mean, why would anyone give up his freedom to put up with 330 million Americans and all their gripes?

Trump thanks the courts for all their advertising. The people have loved Trump since before 2020. All this court advertising is simply bringing it out into the open, as the polls are showing us.

Make America Great Again

He certainly swore the Constitution - the one you have not read and do not understand.

You are here the only slave to your own ignorance and fantasies. The worst king of ignorant - the one who does not even know the extent of his own lack of knowledge and the worst kind of slave - one who thinks is free and lives in a wonderland of pink unicorns. Freedom is earned with blood and sweat, not shit-linking all over adult people having serious discussions.

Go to kindergaten kiddo.

Understand it any way you like, the tangerine blowhard and his ridiculous hair implants are still going to jail.  Most likely along with a few of his co-conspirators.   

Sounds like you don't really understand freedom, liberty, and the basics of how governments work.

The only reason why Trump is having the trouble he is having is, he agreed to it.The laws of the US are applicable to government people more than they are to non-government people. Why? Because government people took the Oath of Office (OoO). Since Trump is not in government any longer, he is not under the OoO at the moment. If he doesn't prosecute the government people for the harm they are doing to him, that's his business.

I know it a big step in understanding for a slave like you to take, but at least try to free yourself from the ignorance. Or do you like being a slave?

You have a big problem. You have your idea of how the world should work according to you. But you do not seem to understand the difference between your wishful thinking and real life. You live in an illusion in which you can live your philosophy - and impose it on others - as a standalone ignorant in a world that owes you some inherent respects for your rights. I have bad news for you: The world cares shit about you and what you think. Modern states are organised how they are for many reason, but the key takeaway for you is that you do not get to change them to suit your views.

Your ideals are ridiculous e.g. "the right to contract" -  the right to contract does not exist in nature, it requires laws and the ability to enforce it, else a contract is as good as a cowshit.

For example - and I know you are an absolute ignorant on this, so just fucking google it - you do not get to put any valuation on an asset. There are strict rules on what the value is because if not people would be committing fraud after fraud. Your own fucking source is telling you that the bankers knew the values were wrong.

I also know your are also an absolute ignorant regarding micro-economics - so just fucking google this - "Offer and demand" - the price is formed by a point in which demand an offer meet. Not at whatever price the owner decides if nobody would buy at that price.

I have also figured out by now that you are also an ignorant on regards to history, law and in general any aspect of civilization. Just fucking go to Amazon and buy a few books.

You do not make the laws, you live under the laws made in a country with a system that is designed to solve problems without resorting to civil war, massive battles and breaking societies plus defending you capricious ass from the real bad people out there that would kill a stupid like you just for a minute of fun.

Said system includes, for example, the limits to a President authority, the illegality of arming mobs to assault the institutions, the authority of those that enforce the law,...If you want to change the basis of the US democracy and impose your tyranny, is not about winning the elections (which Trump could not even do the first time by popular vote BTW), is about a new civil war or, alternatively, get a supermajority willing to do so.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/our-government/the-constitution/#:~:text=An%20amendment%20may%20be%20proposed,in%20each%20State%20for%20ratification.

Just fucking bother to read the Constitution of your fucking country and try to understand what your vote means and what it does not mean what a president can and cannot do.

Either all that or you are an agent of China selling fentanyl to underaged Americans and polluting this forum with links to fake information.