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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 12, 2023, 07:40:23 AM

The games against Ajax were a big opportunity for Brighton to make up for their bad results in the group before. However I still can't be sure of them when it comes to being assertive for the Europa League title. They were considered as one of the top title contenders by bookmakers before the tournament started.

But now we see that they are quite an unbalanced team. Maybe they will be likely to move on to next round but it is very difficult for them to be more successful with this inconsistency. They are even worse in the Premier League recently as they couldn't win a game for a long time.

To be honest, in the Europa League competition I was not the same even though I watched every Ajax match.
IMO, it seems that Marseille and Brighton have a big chance of qualifying for the next phase. the only difference is which team has a ticket to the round of 16, and which team has to go through the playoff phase first. which means, if these two teams, Marseille and Brighton, win their match, these two teams will determine the final meeting of the group B phase.

So, now we review the Ajax side. This team from the Eredivisie league has experienced a significant decline in performance. Not only did they not win a single match in the Europa League, but they also experienced a decline in performance in their domestic league. I don't know much about the Eredivisie competition, or am more looking for information related to Ajax. but what is certain is that many of their players left in the last summer window. and I think that's what caused Ajax to experience a decline in performance. As for the newcomers, maybe they need a process or are not as good as the previous players. and as we can see, it seems they have no chance of qualifying for the next phase.

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Quote from: QueenVera on November 12, 2023, 03:22:33 PM

Liverpool have some good quality players who have proven not just their form but name also over a period of time, Jurgen would know how to balance this team so as to avoid this kind of mistake next time because it might be pretty costly, however I'm pretty sure they would qualify for the next round and go far in the tournament.

You're right. Liverpool has quality players in their squad, that's why they become one of the favorite teams to win this competition. Jurgen Klopp must realize it so much, but it was surprising when they got a defeat against Toulouse. Yes, it was a mistake, they shouldn't be defeated by a small team like Toulouse. I saw some unpopular players on the lineup of Liverpool at that time. However, Liverpool still leads the group E and it seems not to lessen the chance of Liverpool to qualify for the next round. Let's hope Jurgen Klopp will be more careful to decide anything in the next matches.

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Quote from: Awaklara on November 12, 2023, 01:27:22 PM

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Brighton is slowly but surely playing better than before. You can see how brighton was climbing up so fast after it was getting two wins in a row. Brighton needs to get another win to lock a spot to the top 16.

Brighton's performance is unpredictable. but overall their play has improved from last season. Brighton held Marseille to a draw but lost to AEK Athens. These are just the results of the matches against AEK Athens and Marseille. If Brighton can overcome both of them, it can ensure a ticket to qualify for the next round. but in my opinion, there is a chance that Brighton can get a ticket for the playoffs.

Unfortunately, Brighton now seems to be experiencing a decline in performance. we can see the results of the last few matches which I think were bad for Brighton. but hopefully, they can perform optimally in the European League.

The pressure that comes with European Competition haven't been well handled by Brighton Coach and the players. They're a different Brighton this season unlike last season.
Today they have failed to win after winning Ajax in the European Competitions in the Europa League.
They have always played both sides scoring when they play at home this season. That was also sloppy defending.

The squad rotation didn't work for Liverpool coach, even if they equalized finally and saw it cancelled they shouldn't have won that game.
This noon against Brentford was great. Mo Salah had to double to seal the game, Jota also scored impressively.

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Quote from: lizarder on November 12, 2023, 06:31:10 AM

The result of the match will not affect Liverpool's chances of winning the group because they have collected nine points. This defeat provides an opportunity for Toulouse to catch up on Liverpool's points in the remaining matches and if Liverpool are careless again like when they faced Toulouse then they might fail to win the group. However, I think this will be a special consideration for Jurgen Klopp and he will definitely try to evaluate this match so that it doesn't happen again in the remaining matches.

Having players who are much more capable should be a good asset for Liverpool to achieve victory. But if you look at the match Liverpool had difficulty developing their game and a number of opportunities were still poor in the final finish. Only in the 70th minute did they start to show their usual rhythm of play, but unfortunately until the match ended they failed to add a goal because Toulouse players were solid in defense.

Liverpool had a really physical fixture over the weekend the reason for them resting some players During the week against the French Side, I think this has made the group kind of open for Toulouse because they’ll need to secure all 3 points in their coming 2 fixtures to secure top spot in the group, Liverpool been a big European team would want that top spot and Head Coach, Klopp is a tactical genius and know the right changes to make to the starting line up againt Toulouse.

Liverpool have some good quality players who have proven not just their form but name also over a period of time, Jurgen would know how to balance this team so as to avoid this kind of mistake next time because it might be pretty costly, however I'm pretty sure they would qualify for the next round and go far in the tournament.

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Brighton's performance is unpredictable. but overall their play has improved from last season. Brighton held Marseille to a draw but lost to AEK Athens. These are just the results of the matches against AEK Athens and Marseille. If Brighton can overcome both of them, it can ensure a ticket to qualify for the next round. but in my opinion, there is a chance that Brighton can get a ticket for the playoffs.

Unfortunately, Brighton now seems to be experiencing a decline in performance. we can see the results of the last few matches which I think were bad for Brighton. but hopefully, they can perform optimally in the European League.

Brighton's performance has improved after losing to AEK Athens. Brighton drew against Maseille and they managed to take 6 points from Ajax both away and at home. Brighton will certainly hope to avenge their defeat against AEK Athens in the next match to ensure they qualify for the next round, but a draw in the next 2 matches will not harm them either.

Brighton must win one of the next two matches between AEK Athens or Marseille. AEK Athens also couldn't win the match against Brighton and repeat its success like the first meeting, but I believe Brighton has learned a lot from that defeat at home.

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Quote from: poodle63 on November 12, 2023, 01:16:11 PM

Brighton is slowly but surely playing better than before. You can see how brighton was climbing up so fast after it was getting two wins in a row. Brighton needs to get another win to lock a spot to the top 16.

Brighton's performance is unpredictable. but overall their play has improved from last season. Brighton held Marseille to a draw but lost to AEK Athens. These are just the results of the matches against AEK Athens and Marseille. If Brighton can overcome both of them, it can ensure a ticket to qualify for the next round. but in my opinion, there is a chance that Brighton can get a ticket for the playoffs.

Unfortunately, Brighton now seems to be experiencing a decline in performance. we can see the results of the last few matches which I think were bad for Brighton. but hopefully, they can perform optimally in the European League.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 12, 2023, 07:40:23 AM

The games against Ajax were a big opportunity for Brighton to make up for their bad results in the group before. However I still can't be sure of them when it comes to being assertive for the Europa League title. They were considered as one of the top title contenders by bookmakers before the tournament started.

But now we see that they are quite an unbalanced team. Maybe they will be likely to move on to next round but it is very difficult for them to be more successful with this inconsistency. They are even worse in the Premier League recently as they couldn't win a game for a long time.

Brighton, since the last three seasons, are a team to watch. many teams know how they play, that makes them well-anticipated. lost their best players also affects them badly. De Zerbi is still working on settling their group of players while having different players to rely on.

I think Brighton will win against Ajax. beside Ajax are on a bad form, Brighton love to play against teams that play open football like Ajax. Brighton can get good results against teams who play intense pressing, but they struggle against teams that play with deep defense. Ajax in the league so far have just won 3 games, that's so bad for a them. and Brighton are 8th on Premier League table, but they haven't won in the last 5 games.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 12, 2023, 07:40:23 AM

The games against Ajax were a big opportunity for Brighton to make up for their bad results in the group before. However I still can't be sure of them when it comes to being assertive for the Europa League title. They were considered as one of the top title contenders by bookmakers before the tournament started.

But now we see that they are quite an unbalanced team. Maybe they will be likely to move on to next round but it is very difficult for them to be more successful with this inconsistency. They are even worse in the Premier League recently as they couldn't win a game for a long time.

Brighton is slowly but surely playing better than before. You can see how brighton was climbing up so fast after it was getting two wins in a row. Brighton needs to get another win to lock a spot to the top 16.
It won't be so hard for brighton. Zerbi has been successfully fixing the problem in the brighton. Brighton has three points gap to the AEK.
As long as brighton will take full points in the upcoming game and i think that's enough to secure brighton's position at the top 16. The upcoming match is very hard to predict. brighton is still showing inconsistent performance.

The key owned by brighton to lock its spot to go to the next stage is quite big. I think that brighton will be doing it pretty well soon.
Zerbi is not willing to miss opportunity.

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Quote from: lizarder on November 12, 2023, 06:31:10 AM

The result of the match will not affect Liverpool's chances of winning the group because they have collected nine points. This defeat provides an opportunity for Toulouse to catch up on Liverpool's points in the remaining matches and if Liverpool are careless again like when they faced Toulouse then they might fail to win the group. However, I think this will be a special consideration for Jurgen Klopp and he will definitely try to evaluate this match so that it doesn't happen again in the remaining matches.

Loss from Toulouse not really bad result for Liverpool still manage top position have two points left, but they can't qualify as soon possible to next round and need waiting until end of group stage matches with two matches left. Jurgen Klopp will evaluate after losing from Toulouse exactly its not strong opponent teams because first meeting on Anfield Liverpool won bigger score 5-1. Liverpool have all out on two matches left if won't qualify to next round trough playoff round because will be difficult position if have to play in playoff round against with team relegated from Champion League.

Left two matches against LASK and Union Saint must win and take six points to secure first position and qualify automatically to 16th round without play in playoff round. In Group F, Toulouse and Liverpool looks favorite team will lead to 16 and playoff round looking Union Saint have gap three points from Toulouse.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 12, 2023, 07:40:23 AM

The games against Ajax were a big opportunity for Brighton to make up for their bad results in the group before. However I still can't be sure of them when it comes to being assertive for the Europa League title. They were considered as one of the top title contenders by bookmakers before the tournament started.

But now we see that they are quite an unbalanced team. Maybe they will be likely to move on to next round but it is very difficult for them to be more successful with this inconsistency. They are even worse in the Premier League recently as they couldn't win a game for a long time.

Yes indeed, when the season has not started the fact that Brighton is quite favored to have a good performance in this season both in the Premier League and also in the Europa League. But ya, the reality is that Brighton has experienced performance instability so far this season but even so, at least Brighton can also still guarantee to qualify for the next round in this European Lige by finishing in the top two in group B. But yes, if Brighton is currently expected to be a title candidate, then it seems that the prediction is no longer valid because it is difficult for Brighton to maintain a stable performance this season. Moreover, at this moment there are Liverpool and also Bayer Leverkusen in the Europa League, which of course Liverpool and Bayer Leverkusen have better quality compared to Brighton.

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Quote from: bering on November 11, 2023, 09:38:51 AM

The loses from Slavia Prague was very surprising result because at that time Roma was favourited to win the match and this makes Roma had same points with Slavia Prague but Roma chances to qualified still quite high because for upcoming match they only fight against Servette and first met from both team looks very smooth because at that time Roma can able to win with big scores 4-0 and i know draw result is enough to Roma to qualified to the next round but if Roma want to avoid playoff matches i think they should be finish at first place on group standings so Roma have to keep winning in the last 2 matches remaining with big scores if they want automatically qualified to round of 16

Personally, Im not as shocked as some people are that Roma lost to Slavia Prague. Everyone thinks Roma is the better team, but sport is always unpredictable. What matters now is that they get those big wins in the last few games. They should definitely try to finish in the top three to avoid the playoffs, but its not enough for them to just win; they need to do it easily. They feel like they need to make a point. Not to mention Mourinho's unexpected tactics. This happens a lot, especially when they are playing away, and it doesnt always work out. Sure, they're talented, but they need to be more constant in how they play, especially in games like these that are very important.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on November 11, 2023, 07:39:52 PM

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Yeah but Roma always make this kind of games in the european competitions, i dont know why this happen, but seems like they relax too much in this games, can you remember when they lose 6-0 against BodoGlimt in conference league two years ago?, and was Mourinho the coach and they ended up winning the tournament after all.

Mourinho always has a brilliant tactic to win the European competition. But the condition of AS Roma was different in the last season, they played quite consistently at that time. For this season, I doubt if AS Roma can win this competition because there are other stronger teams and can play more consistently than AS Roma. I'm even not sure if AS Roma can reach the final round of this European League.

Quote from: bbigtart on November 11, 2023, 01:07:15 PM

Brighton will most likely qualify from the group phase, I think winning one more match will make them qualify, of course they will chase victory in the remaining two matches and become group champions to avoid strong teams. The victory over Ajax opened up all these opportunities, but I am quite concerned about Ajax now, they are really down even though they used to be a strong team.

The next two matches may be more difficult for Brighton, but I agree that they are possible to qualify for the next round. Brighton must play all out, they want to stay longer time in this competition. They didn't get good results in EPL, they try to focus in Europa League. The upcoming match, they will play against AEK Athens away. I don't think it will be easy to steal points in AEK Athens home. But I still believe Brighton will get points in that match because they actually have a better squad.

I also think that they have a good chance to qualify. Because they have a three-point advantage compared to the team that is right behind them. They are currently in the second position and obviously do not see how they can face too many problems with qualifying for the next stage of the competition from where they are right now. But again, they should not take things easy at all. Underestimating any opponent is actually the worst mistake that any team can make. That's how the big teams actually end up losing against the weaker ones.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 12, 2023, 07:40:23 AM

The games against Ajax were a big opportunity for Brighton to make up for their bad results in the group before. However I still can't be sure of them when it comes to being assertive for the Europa League title. They were considered as one of the top title contenders by bookmakers before the tournament started.

As far as they are in the Eorpa League with 2 wins 1 draw and 1 loss I think it's not a bad achievement for those who are first time in a big competition like this and are in second place and above Ajax which we know what their history is like actually it has been very good for Brighton to date.
Now they only have to be able to secure 1 win if their target is the play offs but with their current points situation which is indeed quite close it would be great if they are still aiming for the main position in this group phase because sometimes the Play offs are increasingly difficult because they have to fight some of the teams that come out of the Champions League so in the last 2 matches, especially when facing Marseille they must be able to lock 2 wins so that they can directly qualify without making a play off first.

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Quote from: bering on November 11, 2023, 09:38:51 AM

The loses from Slavia Prague was very surprising result because at that time Roma was favourited to win the match and this makes Roma had same points with Slavia Prague but Roma chances to qualified still quite high because for upcoming match they only fight against Servette and first met from both team looks very smooth because at that time Roma can able to win with big scores 4-0 and i know draw result is enough to Roma to qualified to the next round but if Roma want to avoid playoff matches i think they should be finish at first place on group standings so Roma have to keep winning in the last 2 matches remaining with big scores if they want automatically qualified to round of 16

There were many surprises in the fourth match, not only did Roma lose but Liverpool also lost, which was clearly a surprise. Surely many bettors have lost a lot of money because of these two match results, whether because they entered it in a multibet or single bet which turned out not to go as predicted.
What is surprising is how Roma were not able to score goals and also the chances they created were not many whereas Prague played very well and another thing that was also quite bad for Roma was how they did not have a single corner kick while Prague had 7.
Prague's strategy was more effective in scoring goals in this match than Roma's, and this time Lukaku was unable to break his team's deadlock as he is usually the player who successfully lifts his team when things don't go as expected, and I'm still quite confident that Roma will win in the next match to qualify for the group phase without having to go through the playoffs.

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The games against Ajax were a big opportunity for Brighton to make up for their bad results in the group before. However I still can't be sure of them when it comes to being assertive for the Europa League title. They were considered as one of the top title contenders by bookmakers before the tournament started.

But now we see that they are quite an unbalanced team. Maybe they will be likely to move on to next round but it is very difficult for them to be more successful with this inconsistency. They are even worse in the Premier League recently as they couldn't win a game for a long time.

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Quote from: marcous on November 10, 2023, 01:26:57 PM

However, I think this result cannot negate Liverpool status as the favorite team in this competition. I was also surprised by this result because on paper the Reds have all the attributes to secure three points at home to Toulouse. Currently Klopp squad still leads the Group E standings with 9 points. There are two games left, and I don't expect Liverpool to drop any points. Maybe Klopp should change his strategy so that it is difficult for opponents to guess, and they can move forward easily in the remaining two matches.

The result of the match will not affect Liverpool's chances of winning the group because they have collected nine points. This defeat provides an opportunity for Toulouse to catch up on Liverpool's points in the remaining matches and if Liverpool are careless again like when they faced Toulouse then they might fail to win the group. However, I think this will be a special consideration for Jurgen Klopp and he will definitely try to evaluate this match so that it doesn't happen again in the remaining matches.

Having players who are much more capable should be a good asset for Liverpool to achieve victory. But if you look at the match Liverpool had difficulty developing their game and a number of opportunities were still poor in the final finish. Only in the 70th minute did they start to show their usual rhythm of play, but unfortunately until the match ended they failed to add a goal because Toulouse players were solid in defense.

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Quote from: klidex on November 12, 2023, 02:56:33 AM

Quote from: marcous on November 11, 2023, 10:49:02 PM

Regarding Brighton, I think that's the case, their chances of winning a trophy are greater here than in the EPL. However, I still see that Liverpool, Laverkusen and AS Roma are stronger than Brighton, because we of course know that this is their first season in the Europa League so it will be very difficult to say much, what is needed is experience and mentality.

Not to mention that the competition will be even fiercer when the teams from the UCL will return here, and will really test the strength of the previously favorite clubs. Dezerbi must add strength in the January transfer window, if they want to build a more competitive squad to compete in any competition, even though they are currently quite good.

I agree with you and in my opinion there are still other teams that are stronger than Brighton, I see Leverkusen's impressive performance in the European league so far and Leverkusen has the most points in the European league group phase, Leverkusen's performance in the European league and domestic league really extraordinary and I haven't seen Leverkusen's weaknesses so far because Xabi Alonso really makes their squad look tough and impressive in every match.

This season will be interesting because we will see elite teams competing in the European league and we are just waiting for the teams that did not qualify for the UCL and participate in the European league to compete fiercely to win the title this season.

Leverkusen current achievements are so strong that even in the domestic league this team has higher consistency and in this european league Leverkusen is also able to appear very stable, always able to secure victory in every match and all this is thanks to the strategic contribution of Xabi who really understands the character the player.

but what you have to pay attention to right now is that maybe currently Leverkusen is in its best trend in the european league but when Sevilla does not qualify for the UCL and has to appear in the european league I think Leverkusen will get a strong challenger because in history the holder of the most european league titles is only Sevilla who is more experienced.

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Did not expect Liverpool to lose this match at all. The funny thing is Liverpool actually dominated the match in terms of having possession of the ball. But Liverpool was unable to do much with it. They were able to make things interesting in the end by scoring in the 89th minute of the match. But I have to say performance from the Liverpool was below average. The accuracy needs to be better from Liverpool. I don't know what to say then the fact that this is a match probably nobody expected Liverpool to lose. And at the same time, I have to give credit to Toulouse.

I'm not surprised to see Liverpool lose since they're intentionally did that.

Take a look with their line up where the goalkeeper is Kelleher, not Becker. They also give a chance for Doak to play and few of their quality defenders are injured.

In terms of statistic, Liverpool must be qualify to the next round since the only way Liverpool lose is when they lose with big margins (leading 3-4 goals) in the next two matches. Do you think St.Gilloise and LASK can do that? I really doubt.

Well, that is also true. They wanted to give a chance to the irregular players because this match does not matter too much, to be honest. But still, I wanted to see Liverpool win this match. But to be honest, since they themselves did not want to win this match, what can I do about it? But I have to say it was a good decision made by Liverpool now when I think about it. Keeping players healthy is a big task for almost any team right now. And they made the right decision. It is pretty clear that they are serious about keeping the players, healthy. And no, I do not think at this point, there is any chance for Liverpool to not qualify.

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Quote from: marcous on November 11, 2023, 10:49:02 PM

Regarding Brighton, I think that's the case, their chances of winning a trophy are greater here than in the EPL. However, I still see that Liverpool, Laverkusen and AS Roma are stronger than Brighton, because we of course know that this is their first season in the Europa League so it will be very difficult to say much, what is needed is experience and mentality.

Not to mention that the competition will be even fiercer when the teams from the UCL will return here, and will really test the strength of the previously favorite clubs. Dezerbi must add strength in the January transfer window, if they want to build a more competitive squad to compete in any competition, even though they are currently quite good.

I agree with you and in my opinion there are still other teams that are stronger than Brighton, I see Leverkusen's impressive performance in the European league so far and Leverkusen has the most points in the European league group phase, Leverkusen's performance in the European league and domestic league really extraordinary and I haven't seen Leverkusen's weaknesses so far because Xabi Alonso really makes their squad look tough and impressive in every match.

This season will be interesting because we will see elite teams competing in the European league and we are just waiting for the teams that did not qualify for the UCL and participate in the European league to compete fiercely to win the title this season.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 11, 2023, 04:37:16 PM

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And for Brighton, this is a big opportunity for them to focus well on their the European league because the European league is one of the opportunities for them to win trophies this season. In the domestic league, of course Brighton has no chance of winning the title because other team are stronger than them, so the European league is a place where they have to fight as best as possible this season.

The competition at the Europa this season is very tough as compared to other seasons, because there are many big team in their good form participating in the Europa this season, and others who are playing in other leagues aswell.

They will further channel their energy into getting the best they can from the Europa, thereby increasing the competition in the Europa then it is now, I think after the group stage, the competition may get even though and Brighton may not have that form to stand the pressure that may come with it, so I'm no thinking they stand a chance to win the title as against other bigger team there fighting to really get the title.

Regarding Brighton, I think that's the case, their chances of winning a trophy are greater here than in the EPL. However, I still see that Liverpool, Laverkusen and AS Roma are stronger than Brighton, because we of course know that this is their first season in the Europa League so it will be very difficult to say much, what is needed is experience and mentality.

Not to mention that the competition will be even fiercer when the teams from the UCL will return here, and will really test the strength of the previously favorite clubs. Dezerbi must add strength in the January transfer window, if they want to build a more competitive squad to compete in any competition, even though they are currently quite good.

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