Topic: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season - page 381. (Read 49891 times)

Jurgen Klopp seems to be focusing his squad on playing optimally in the Premier League. But even in the match against Toulouse we could see Liverpool playing very well. In fact, they continued to control the game very well. But Toulouse were smarter in taking advantage of the opportunities they got in this match. Meanwhile, Liverpool wasted more opportunities. But Klopp's focus seems to be on the match that will take place today in the Premier League, namely against Brentford. And everyone knows that Brentford always makes it difficult for the strong teams in the Premier League. So Klopp seems to be thinking about this and he wants to maintain the top 4 ranking currently occupied by Liverpool in the Premier League.

But I still feel amazed by West Ham who seem to be focusing their club more on playing more optimally in the European League. Because in the Premier League it seems that it will be very difficult for West Ham, who have currently even dropped to 13th place in the Premier League. So West Ham's hope at the moment seems to be only in the Europa League. And it looks like we can be sure that West Ham will progress to the next stage.

Mourinho always has a brilliant tactic to win the European competition. But the condition of AS Roma was different in the last season, they played quite consistently at that time. For this season, I doubt if AS Roma can win this competition because there are other stronger teams and can play more consistently than AS Roma. I'm even not sure if AS Roma can reach the final round of this European League.

The next two matches may be more difficult for Brighton, but I agree that they are possible to qualify for the next round. Brighton must play all out, they want to stay longer time in this competition. They didn't get good results in EPL, they try to focus in Europa League. The upcoming match, they will play against AEK Athens away. I don't think it will be easy to steal points in AEK Athens home. But I still believe Brighton will get points in that match because they actually have a better squad.

My only concern is that the status quo VAR systems don't perform as excellent S we thought it would during the inception. And also, it's human nature to complain if things doesn't go the way we want them to and has very little to actually do with VAR. Managers of the past didn't do it much because at those times, whenever a referee made a decision, it's final. And yes, I acknowledged the fact that Toulouse was exceptional in that game. I even mentioned it in my reply quoted above.

Yep, even we were surprised by AS Roma's defeat. even though, Slavia Prague should not be a big and very tough team. However, these two teams will qualify if we refer to the points they earn. the difference is, which team will enter the top 16, and which team will have to go through the playoffs later. However, if Roma want to become champions in this group G phase, they have to win the remaining matches with a landslide score. Also, without conceding. In essence, what I said is the same as what you posted in this thread.

Well, let's talk about the progress of this match. In essence, both teams both won the match at their respective headquarters. But what really annoys me is that Jose Mourinho always implements strange patterns for his squad. I mean, in the first meeting Roma won the match with an offensive system pattern. and when they visited Slavia's headquarters, Mourinho changed his pattern and system. even though in terms of player quality, Roma is superior. In fact, the course of this match was quite balanced. Slavia dominated in the first half, while Roma started to be aggressive and dominated in the second half. Likewise, in terms of opportunities, Slavia is much better.
Well, this is one of Mourinho's weaknesses when his team plays away games. they don't have the confidence to come up with an offensive system.

By the way, what I analyze does not necessarily agree with others.

The competition at the Europa this season is very tough as compared to other seasons, because there are many big team in their good form participating in the Europa this season, and others who are playing in other leagues aswell.

They will further channel their energy into getting the best they can from the Europa, thereby increasing the competition in the Europa then it is now, I think after the group stage, the competition may get even though and Brighton may not have that form to stand the pressure that may come with it, so I'm no thinking they stand a chance to win the title as against other bigger team there fighting to really get the title.

Brighton coming into tge European competition should know it’s a one that requires lots of seriousness and they should try as much as possible to keep winning streaks because most teams in Europe could pose some offset when it comes to the competition, so it’s safe to secure all 3 points when necessary rather than waiting to get the calculators back during the fixture like in the case of Manchester United

 With 2 matches to go, I think Brighton has a very good side that’ll pose a threat but consistency is key in Europe to be successful, cause they need to do everything possible to win their remaining 2 games and qualify for the next round, well I believe in De Zerbi he'll do everything possible to make it happen.

Roma sometimes doing shit to its performance. If we are seeing the line and we will know that if roma is trying to get perfect result but it was losing against slavia praha with very bad scores. It's very embarassing lose from roma.
This club was playing so badly against praha which is unbelievable for me to see that. I never expect roma to lose against low tier like this. Roma obviously plays like shit.

It was using belotti and lukaku. These cuys were not even able to score at least a single goal against praha. This makes me feel doubt to call roma as a strong contender to win the game.

Brighton will most likely qualify from the group phase, I think winning one more match will make them qualify, of course they will chase victory in the remaining two matches and become group champions to avoid strong teams. The victory over Ajax opened up all these opportunities, but I am quite concerned about Ajax now, they are really down even though they used to be a strong team.

I don't think they can win the European League because the competition is certainly very tough, especially Liverpool and Leverkusen. Of course they will try their best but my prediction is that they will only reach the semifinals and this is an extraordinary achievement considering Brighton's development so far.

One of the common excuses of modern day football managers is they complain bitterly whenever they lose a game that the VAR decision doesn't go their way but will still not complain whenever it favours them in other games and I think that new tricky way of avoiding blames is absolutely not good.
The Toulouse win against Liverpool on Thursday was well deserved if you ask me because the team played with more determination for a win than the English Premier League club.

I had it in mind but wasn't brave enough to place a bet on the game. Also when you takeba look at the game Roma played weekend to that midweek Europa League game, they played against a poor side Lecce and they still played poorly than the opposite side.
Lecce should have won that game only if they had defended very well until the very end. They had a good comeback into the game bit that didn't define and defends how they played woefully. Same results on Thursday night and people say it was shocking?

Same Lecce has just held Ac Milan to a Fulltime Draw. Ajax needs a new coach, I don't know who's in charge but I can tell they didn't hurt Brighton enough to score a goal.

I think getting the europa cup is more important for them, because it would be highly unlikely for them to get the premier league title, and considering how good other teams are right now, it would be very difficult compared to getting europa, FA cup is another one they "may" win, but even that is too hard. This is why I think it is important for them to focus their talents here, so that they would win at least one title. In a season given the chance of winning EPL or FA or Europa, the biggest chance for them is clearly Europa.

However, if they do think that resting their players is more important, then they know what they are doing and Klopp is a far better manager anyone here can ever be, so he must know what he is doing and he is making calculated decisions. This means that he wants his players fresh, and that is understandable, after all being top four is important for them as well, it does bring in a lot of talent for the people for sure, and a lot of money.

Yeah but Roma always make this kind of games in the european competitions, i dont know why this happen, but seems like they relax too much in this games, can you remember when they lose 6-0 against BodoGlimt in conference league two years ago?, and was Mourinho the coach and they ended up winning the tournament after all.

The loses from Slavia Prague was very surprising result because at that time Roma was favourited to win the match and this makes Roma had same points with Slavia Prague but Roma chances to qualified still quite high because for upcoming match they only fight against Servette and first met from both team looks very smooth because at that time Roma can able to win with big scores 4-0 and i know draw result is enough to Roma to qualified to the next round but if Roma want to avoid playoff matches i think they should be finish at first place on group standings so Roma have to keep winning in the last 2 matches remaining with big scores if they want automatically qualified to round of 16

Even though in reality Liverpool can still qualify from the group stage with the remaining games, they should be able to get it earlier if they manage to beat Toulouse. However, even for a team as big as Liverpool, this is not going well enough and they have to be more patient to get good results in the next match. Focusing on two active competitions is quite confusing for Kloop because they also have to focus on the domestic league considering that they have the opportunity not only to finish in 4th position but also as a team challenging for the next title. Maybe that's why Kloop wanted to save energy from some of his key players in the previous match against Toulouse and even though the result was not what he expected, Kloop will certainly fix it all.

Even though they lost this match their position in the standings for the Europa League was very comfortable and indeed even though Klopp's rotation did not go very well in this match but there was a positive thing that could be taken including for some of their young players.
In this match we can see that Liverpool are still very good in possession and opportunities even though the finishing is not going well but on the other hand it is certainly a positive result even though they lost 3 points.
Now when their position is quite comfortable in the standings, it is also not wrong for Klopp to rotate his players and save the energy of the main players to make them ready when competing with competitions that they think are important later.

Jurgen Klopp have targets to beat this season, that's were we get the whole worrying face during game time and also planning ahead to gather his squad back on track. Liverpool playing in the Europa League, more like a decline performance for them but they will cope and try to win the title as a medium to bounce back to the big boys competition which is the UEFA Champions League, it's been on every Liverpool player's mind and they're crucially working towards it. Liverpool defeats against Toulouse is not even considered significant to the team and the coach, they have important games to play in the English Premier League and they will definitely shoot their best shot.

Yeah you are right because I was thinking that since Toulouse was dominating them on the first half that they will work on there strategy to stop Toulouse from dominating them but instead they came back playing the same way they did on there first half, which gave Toulouse more edge to outperform them.

The match was really surprising to everyone honestly even Toulouse did not believe there performance on that match because based Liverpool excellent record this season Toulouse never believe they could even play draw with them let alone win Liverpool but there determination gave them the courage to play the way they did.

Certainly would have been better, but at the same time. I also agree that it is not the end of the world for Liverpool. They have another competition to think about. And Liverpool is a team that will consistently have to think about both the English Premier League and the Champions League as well. So probably if Liverpool actually ends up losing in matches like this, where it will not matter if Liverpool wins or loses, I think we can actually overlook the results not being in favour of Liverpool. But I think as soon as we enter the later stages of the competitions, Liverpool is not going to have that luxury for sure

Liverpool was not playing seriously against toulouse. Look at the line up first before the match. It's clear liverpool was only trying to give the secondary players in the club chance to play in the main squad.
Losing using the main squad may a bit acceptable but i think that anyone know that if liverpool was the worst one on its secondary line up. I think that toulouse can be beaten easily if the club will be playing so well with its main squad.


No surprises to me. Liverpool's secondary squad was so garbage compared with the main squad. No doubt that if liverpool was suffering the lose against toulouse.
Klopp can also reevaluate the performance from the secondary squad which is far from his expectations.
It's caused by liverpool can be beaten by toulouse easily.

Even though if you look at the match, Liverpool dominated possession of the ball better, but unfortunately Liverpool did not take advantage of this opportunity, so Liverpool was forced to accept their first defeat in the European League.

The chances of qualifying can still be changed because currently Touluse has collected 7 points and Liverpool 9 points. If the remaining 2 matches Liverpool can take full advantage of the remaining matches and not underestimate the opposing team Liverpool will have the potential to qualify, because Touluse could take over first place. if Liverpool lose opportunities in the next 2 matches.