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The Sceptical Chymist

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Quote from: LoyceV on March 23, 2024, 10:16:35 AM

Why don't you put your money where your mouth is, follow the link you quoted, and share maybe 200 or so good posts that haven't been merited yet? I'll make you a deal: if I agree they're good (and I should be able to read them), I'll Merit them. If it's 200 good posts, I'll happily share 800 Merit with them. Good luck.

I'll even up the ante here. If teamsherry follows up and does point out posts you find meritworthy, I'll check all the ones you've merited and if I concur, I'll give them an additional 1 merit.

Quote from: LoyceV on March 23, 2024, 10:16:35 AM

Shitposters complaining about Merit. All it proves is the system works as intended

They've been complaining about merit ever since that morning in January 2018 when I woke up (with the flu) and saw Meta had exploded and suddenly contained innumerable threads dealing with this new phenomenon Theymos had seemingly cooked up in secret. And yup, the system has been kicking shitposters' asses ever since. But hey, at least there aren't nearly as many merit-bitching or merit-begging threads these days. For those of you who haven't been here a few years, those were a massive annoyance for a long, long time.

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By the way, "teamsherry" doesn't happen to look like this does it?

LoyceV

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Quote from: teamsherry on March 22, 2024, 07:41:58 PM

I still bet that they are so many good posts that have died in the forum that weren't merited

Why don't you put your money where your mouth is, follow the link you quoted, and share maybe 200 or so good posts that haven't been merited yet? I'll make you a deal: if I agree they're good (and I should be able to read them), I'll Merit them. If it's 200 good posts, I'll happily share 800 Merit with them. Good luck.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on March 23, 2024, 10:08:39 AM

Quote from: teamsherry on March 22, 2024, 07:41:58 PM

Now another thign is a mert source

See? You're not even trying. Or worse, this is your best writing.

Shitposters complaining about Merit. All it proves is the system works as intended

The Sceptical Chymist

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Quote from: teamsherry on March 22, 2024, 07:41:58 PM

Yeah with lots of shitpost it's easy to hide the good ones, but what's more disappointing to users is when they try hard to give a good post, no merit, it actually reduces the moral of good posting since good post aren't appreciated.

So....do you think some of your posts are among those that have escaped the attention of merit sources and all of the other members with merits to give out? I'm really hoping the answer is no, because the quality of your writing is typical of what I see in most threads, i.e., abysmal. And yes I'm singling you out since you acknowledged the abundance of shitposts but argued that good posts go un-merited despite the argument that LoyceV made.

Quote from: teamsherry on March 22, 2024, 07:41:58 PM

Now another thign is a mert source

See? You're not even trying. Or worse, this is your best writing.

Speaking of merit sources and their activity, I've been incredibly lazy for at least a month but intend to fire off the merit cannon shortly. I'm still contemplating how to handle my offer of post history reviews in light of some feedback I've gotten and the high probability that I'm helping alt accounts that meet the bare minimum standards for merits rank up--something that I do not want to do. But that's for another thread.

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Quote from: LoyceV on February 11, 2024, 01:38:58 PM

Quote from: KingsDen on February 11, 2024, 01:35:23 PM

I was just wondering why theymos has been somewhat reluctant to add more merit sources. I couldn't actually get resounding answer, but I believe that theymos doesn't want merit to lose it value. He does so by practically keeping it as scarce as possible

The total Merit circulation is much higher than it was in the first year after it's introduction, while the number of posts went down a lot. Merit isn't scarce, good posts are.

You might be right about lack of good post but I still bet that they are so many good posts that have died in the forum that weren't merited and not because they wasn't merit to go by but no one saw them, maybe cause the so called merit sources don't spend much time on the forum anymore.

Yeah with lots of shitpost it's easy to hide the good ones, but what's more disappointing to users is when they try hard to give a good post, no merit, it actually reduces the moral of good posting since good post aren't appreciated.

Now another thign is a mert source idea of good post, you can't expect a new user less than a year in bitcoin and this forum make as much quality post like you that has been in this forum for so long or have so much knowledge maybe following up even since the introduction of this forum, so yeah standard can be reduced a bit not to encourage shot post but gor those that that at least doing good or trying that woudl actually promote good post on the forum. And yeah I believe its not your first time hearing an opinion like this, so it might not do any good

JayJuanGee

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Quote from: dzungmobile on March 22, 2024, 11:07:33 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 22, 2024, 10:58:13 AM

Oh.. so there was potentially another removal, after the removal of Symmetrick (Ratimov).

Who did leave the forum after Ratimov?

We have a big name, true legendary member who left us last month or two months ago and it makes sense to remove him as a merit source.
Farewell

Oh yeah.. whoops, of course. I participated in that thread as well as the flaming thread that was related to it.

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Quote from: dzungmobile on March 22, 2024, 11:07:33 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 22, 2024, 10:58:13 AM

Oh.. so there was potentially another removal, after the removal of Symmetrick (Ratimov).

Who did leave the forum after Ratimov?

We have a big name, true legendary member who left us last month or two months ago and it makes sense to remove him as a merit source.

Farewell

We needs merit sources in the forum both in the general boards and in the local boards. Symmetrick popularly and formally known as Ratimov was a generous merit source and if theymos is bringing anyone in it should be a generous one and not the person that have a very long list of ignore Users. o_e_l_e_o was also generous but he was mostly active in the wallet.and technical board and he gave merits in those boards more than other general boards.

If the total number of merit sources were 109 and the removal of Symmetrick as Ratimov led to the reduction of the total number to 108 then the removal of o_e_l_e_o should reduce it to 107. And let the admin should bring the new ones like four general merit sources. And This days I was even thinking if there are merit sources in the forum because because merit is not flowing like before again.

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 22, 2024, 10:58:13 AM

Oh.. so there was potentially another removal, after the removal of Symmetrick (Ratimov).

Who did leave the forum after Ratimov?

We have a big name, true legendary member who left us last month or two months ago and it makes sense to remove him as a merit source.

Farewell

JayJuanGee

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Quote from: tranthidung on March 22, 2024, 10:40:47 AM

Merit bell

Again, I am not sure when the change happened but today, by checking I see small changes than a last merit bell.

Quote from: tranthidung on November 28, 2023, 08:29:13 AM

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There are 109 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 33140 sMerit per 30 days

Oh.. so there was potentially another removal, after the removal of Symmetrick (Ratimov).

Quote from: JayJuanGee on January 06, 2024, 01:45:30 PM

Quote from: Coin-1 on January 06, 2024, 10:45:32 AM

From the forum news, I can tell that one user who had a significantly large monthly sMerit allocation of 849 was removed from the list of merit sources about two months ago. As a result, the total number of active merit sources has decreased from 110 to 109, and the current total merit generation is now 33140 sMerit per 30 days. I don't know who this user is. Huh

Since, in recent times, there has been so much drama around Symmetrick (Ratimov), it may well could have been him, since it appears that you still have him listed as a merit source, and I am in the last week or so, he has been banned from the forum.

tranthidung

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Farewell o_e_l_e_o

Merit bell

Again, I am not sure when the change happened but today, by checking I see small changes than a last merit bell.

Quote from: tranthidung on November 28, 2023, 08:29:13 AM

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There are 109 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 33140 sMerit per 30 days

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Quote from: KingsDen on February 11, 2024, 01:35:23 PM

But knowing that most merit source do not distribute merits and some are no longer active, it is nice to introduce few more hands and watch, if the result is counter productive, he can still reduce the number of merit sources thereafter.

The chart belows tells different story. As seen, the amount of merit shared hasnt really dropped since the last time theymos did merit readjustment which was ~2 and a half years ago (July 2021) and chances are he won't do it again until merit number drops down significantly. Add on that the fact that since then number of posts went down 40-50%, no wonder that theymos is not in a hurry to introduce new merit sources.

As loyce said, there's lack of good posts, not merit. At least not generally speaking, some parts of the forum are indeed undemerited

Source https://public.tableau.com/views/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/MeritSendersReceivers?:language=en-US&:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link

LoyceV

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Quote from: KingsDen on February 11, 2024, 01:35:23 PM

I was just wondering why theymos has been somewhat reluctant to add more merit sources. I couldn't actually get resounding answer, but I believe that theymos doesn't want merit to lose it value. He does so by practically keeping it as scarce as possible

The total Merit circulation is much higher than it was in the first year after it's introduction, while the number of posts went down a lot. Merit isn't scarce, good posts are.

KingsDen

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Quote from: Coyster on February 11, 2024, 10:59:53 AM

Quote from: logfiles on February 10, 2024, 05:34:51 PM

With a few notable members leaving the forum or becoming inactive. There is definitely a void that needs to be filled up.

Its been quite a long time since Theymos added new MS's, but within that time source merits have decreased quite a lot, some MS's became somewhat inactive, and some others completely left the forum. I think right now Theymos would really be considering adding new MS's, it has been a long time coming, but this period seems like the perfect time; there is no dearth of MS applications, there are so many reputable members waiting in the pipeline, and this makes Theymos' job pretty easy, he just has to pick a few out of those waiting.

I was just wondering why theymos has been somewhat reluctant to add more merit sources. I couldn't actually get resounding answer, but I believe that theymos doesn't want merit to lose it value. He does so by practically keeping it as scarce as possible. Adding more merit sources will make merit more abundant and who knows it could lose its value. But knowing that most merit source do not distribute merits and some are no longer active, it is nice to introduce few more hands and watch, if the result is counter productive, he can still reduce the number of merit sources thereafter.

Quote from: fillippone on February 10, 2024, 10:44:23 AM

Wondering if someone guessed who this new merit source is.
Also, I think the forum lost another heavyweight merit source.
Theymos needs to replace him as well, I am afraid.

One thing is having a merit source, another is having someone as generous as Leo in merit distribution. In terms of capacity, there is supposed to be two people replacing Leo

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Quote from: logfiles on February 10, 2024, 05:34:51 PM

With a few notable members leaving the forum or becoming inactive. There is definitely a void that needs to be filled up.

Its been quite a long time since Theymos added new MS's, but within that time source merits have decreased quite a lot, some MS's became somewhat inactive, and some others completely left the forum. I think right now Theymos would really be considering adding new MS's, it has been a long time coming, but this period seems like the perfect time; there is no dearth of MS applications, there are so many reputable members waiting in the pipeline, and this makes Theymos' job pretty easy, he just has to pick a few out of those waiting.

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Quote from: fillippone on February 10, 2024, 10:44:23 AM

Wondering if someone guessed who this new merit source is.
Also, I think the forum lost another heavyweight merit source.
Theymos needs to replace him as well, I am afraid.

I don't know if there is any recent update data about merit distribution among members, especially from the merit sources, but I think it's about time Theymos did something and added new merit sources

With a few notable members leaving the forum or becoming inactive. There is definitely a void that needs to be filled up.

Aanuoluwatofunmi

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Quote from: fillippone on February 10, 2024, 10:44:23 AM

Wondering if someone guessed who this new merit source is.
Also, I think the forum lost another heavyweight merit source.
Theymos needs to replace him as well, I am afraid.

It will be our utmost desire to see that Theymos give consideration to some of the merit source applications and review them, we are truly going down gradually with the numbers of merits sources available of recent while some have for a long time been inactive on the forum, we also have to commend of the present and active merits sources for a well done job, you guyz are doing well in covering up the lapses while ensuring evenly distribution of merits.

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Wondering if someone guessed who this new merit source is.
Also, I think the forum lost another heavyweight merit source.
Theymos needs to replace him as well, I am afraid.

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I have ordered 2 stripers and 4 bottles of champaign, lets see who is this lucky new source! They haven't publicly announced it yet themselves? Why, too shy? 😉

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Quote from: hg_away on November 28, 2023, 10:11:40 AM

Can you find out who was deleted?

You can make your guess and it is very likely right. Symmetrick.

Can a merit source re-start Ratimov merit threads.

Quote from: ?? on ??

Today I am leaving the [banned mixer] campaign, thank you for the opportunity to represent this service.

Symmetrick wants to take a break or leave the forum so it makes sense if he sent a request to be removed as a merit source.

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Most 200 Merit sources are for local boards only.

I am not sure about it.

New merit source can be reported in [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits with next updates in that thread.

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Quote from: Halab on November 28, 2023, 09:37:28 AM

Quote from: tranthidung on November 28, 2023, 08:29:13 AM

There is less 800 sourced merit each 30 days than the last merit bell.

Indeed, it's a -1000 (there's no great mystery behind the disappearance of this MS) and a +200 (it's more a correction of an "anomaly" for this new MS).

Can you find out who was deleted? Most 200 Merit sources are for local boards only.

tranthidung

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Quote from: Halab on November 28, 2023, 09:37:28 AM

Indeed, it's a -1000 (there's no great mystery behind the disappearance of this MS) and a +200 (it's more a correction of an "anomaly" for this new MS).

I knew there are some changes because total merit sources number is the same but total sourced merit drops significantly.

It's a long time I did not check that page and even when all stats are the same, there are possibly something changes internally too like increase and decrease of sourced merits among current merit sources.

Thank you for your information Halab.

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