Topic: Newbies are not Scums.... Learning is a Process and it's progressive. - page 4. (Read 723 times)

Intelligence is not measured in how we speak or write....

Let me brag again, I graduated as the best in my Masters Degree Class with a Distinction... I wrote the best Thesis graded 84% and since being published as a Book sold all over the globe... I authored 3 Books sold all over the globe with yearly royalties....

Let me also brag that in January, I will be travelling to the United Kingdom again for my PhD on a well deserved Scholarship....

I will also want to challenge you to an English test to know your worth.....

The British who are the acclaimed originator of English Language makes lots of blunders while speaking English (if your listen outside there accents) and they also learn English in their Schools....

I don't know if the word fool is permitted here because some people are just acting like fools on this forum just to get points and for the sake of posting......

I am not bragging.... You can drop your email and I will send you my CV and Credentials for free ....

I would have loved to quote and reply to all your points one after the other, but I'm using mobile, so I might mess up the whole thing before rounding it up, but never the less, here is what I have to say.
 
I understand how you feel, and a lot of newbies have also raised this concern, and everyone was a newbie before they got the reputation that they are right now. Even before the merit system was introduced, the ranking system has always been there, so I don't think anyone jumped the newbie part.
 
In terms of being a newbie, you can be a newbie here in this forum, but that does not make you a newbie in real life. You can have all the knowledge you want and be very smart. One thing that I have learned from this forum is that you just have to live life the way you want, provided that you are not scamming anyone. Whatever anyone has to say to you, if it will add value to your growth, you accept it, but if it won't, you just ignore it; they won't do you anything.
 
You can't control what people will think about you, but you can prove them wrong by doing better. Most people just think a lot of newbies are plagarists, and as such, they criticise every bit of their mistake. If you happen to find yourself in such situations and you are confident about yourself, don't give such hate a space to dominate you; instead, use that as a motivation to prove their instincts wrong and see them as part of those who will use you as an example in the future.

If I may describe myself, I will say I am the most honest man on Earth.... I can't lie about anything when I have nothing to gain.....

The simple truth is that I made the initial post before my promotion in my work place.... I can't expose where I work or what I do.... My Promotion came with lots of goodies and my Salary is now above $300 and money I get monthly from my new position which amounts to 7 digits...... I am not someone that brags.....

I think at this point, I will just exit this forum for my sanity sake.... I have lived over 4 decades and I have never seen a forum where people's views are not treated with respect.

this is very necessary and I don't see any reason why an old member can't advice a supposed newbie in a matured and responsible manner.

One of the major concern I also have as it relates to matters as this is that their are people that have prior experience as it regard bitcoin and cryptocurrency but might not have been an active member of the forum, and then they now join the forum and make a post that is matured and shows how experience the person is, you will see numerous attack on the individual as though one cannot do his research and get lots of information that although his account might be showing newbie or jnr member, he could be more experience than some legendary.

The journey in the forum is one that takes time and no one should be discouraged just because he is joining the forum as a new person. If they spam or make a faulty appearance in the forum, let's first direct and guide them responsibly and when they seem not to be taking the advice seriously, they could then be shunned it reported in reputation board.

let love lead

If you continue to pay attention to negative comments that do not align with your personal ideologies, you will get so pissed off and even leave the forum again without gaining anything, while those supposed attackers are still in the forum making waves. So who lost, obviously you!

In every message here, there is a bit of sense in it no matter the tone of the message, pick only the right information you need and forget about the manner with which the message was passed. Sometimes newbies can ask unnecessary questions instead of using the search button,  not everyone here will be patient enough to explain one thing over and over again.  Focus more on learning and forget about anyone's opinion,  at the end we all will be fine.

No one is belittling newbies here, except for those who feel they are superior person than others.  I have been here in the forum for almost a decade now and I see members here being patient in guiding newbies.  I even see members doing the research just to answer the questions of newcomers. 

The only time members of these forums react negatively to the newcomer's posts is when the newbies try to teach people things they know little about, and bragging about their achievements without laying out proof to support their claims.


Respect is given to those who deserve it, IMO.  Btw, there is also constructive criticism, so it depends on the receiving end on how they accept this.

looking through the threads he created, there are some posts coming from forum members that are not "welcoming" or feel like a "rude" response to the post he made(which I don't think it is). that's probably why he felt like he was being attacked by forum members.

that's an interesting find, I wonder what the OP has to say about this.

 We all started from the very bottom (newbie) and if all of us have complained that the treatment gotten here was harsh and unfriendly, I don't think there'd be anyone for you to meet here. Always understand that as a public space, there's bound to be different people who treat things differently. Yes, no one enjoys being criticized for just asking a "simple" question but sometimes, there's tongue lash on the newbie especially if he/she asks very obvious questions and though they ask for guidance on how to operate, seldom make use of those helps.
 One thing is sure here, the way Mr A will talk is not the same way Mr B will and as such there's the tendency to pick offence at the way the talk was delivered so the best thing is grow a thick skin and try to look past those words. There are constructive criticism that comes in a harsh way; since your aim is to learn about Bitcoin from the forum, the best thing is to pick what you need from those criticisma and ignore the rest.
 You mentioned working and I'm sure probably your boss or superiors may say things that aren't comfortable with you, but you didn't quit, did you? So treat here the same. You can also leave too of you feel the noobs are being treated like scum.

Most Welcome to best learning place.


We are comes here as a newbie and learned lot here. It is free place and anyone can share their ideas. Everyone have different mind and you shouldn't care about much of these replies and just ignore it. You should look for valuable advice and learn from old members experience.


Veey good thinking, you should continue your learning business and I hope when you leaned well your investment will be with right strategy which is always recommended for new users.

You should continue learning and ask without hesitation about anything what you don't know or have something doubt in it to full clear your mind. No one is perfect in life and we will learn from mother's lap to grave

Nobody attacked you for being a newbie, you started this topic and bragged about yourself:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63398158

So, which one of the 3 are true and which are false? My bet is on the third being the only right one!
And now you have the answer to why some newbies are not getting such a warm welcome!

Don't take it personally buddy!

From the beginning of the forum, it was proven that newbies are very risky to deal with. Due to the starting rank (newbie), they don't care about their account reputation. They take this advantage and try to scam without thinking twice if they have any intention of scamming. This has been happening from the beginning. This is the reason people are always afraid to make deals with newbies without escrow and also suggest others to not do so.



You can add it to your service thread if you want. Instead of a real identity, you can show also some of your portfolio. This can also bring some trust.

Just don't show face, identity because of proving you are an actual newbie, is a very good advice.

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To OP,

Your privacy matters more than what people think who you are.

You can prove it indirectly with time and with your actual contributions in this community. Time files so fast and if you can make good contributions, the community will recognize it and you will be an asset of this forum.

Everyone her ein this community had been a newbie before and we never died or feel bias when we are advised or corrected.
Everyone that is a newbie here is not like they are babies that do not know much but since there is ranks here, everyone need to maintain their lane.

 We have seen so many newbies who come here to Scam and ask for some unreasonable aid which is not supposed to be so.
I could see many things how newbies or join members were attacked because of their mistakes or how they tend to behave like they know more than people that had been here since. This should not be an argument but a soft reckon.

Showing your real identity here is futile, and something you probably don’t really want to do if you distance yourself from the heat of the moment. Growing a thicker skin will go a long way though …

As far as I can tell, going over your posts, there’s nothing wrong with trying to offer your services as a project manager like you did, though the likeliness of that striking a deal here is slim to none if there is no specific crypto project background already in the bag, which is the core focus here as one can expect.

On the other hand, pondering and explicating the option to (eventually try to) live off the forum, as opposed to keeping a regular job, is something that some people might do, though as others already rightly responded at the time, not the best of ideas for multiple reasons already cited in the corresponding thread.

In general terms, Newbie accounts are not going to be suspected to be scammers per se. Any account could potentially be one, and having a given Rank may "help the cause" (so as to say) because Rank may cause an impression at times. One should really be wary of any and all Ranks (faceless is shameless after all), and it’s over time that, perhaps, one may be more lenient to develop a certain trust is some accounts, trust that should not be blindly taken for granted.

Calling me a Scammer or suspecting that I am a scammer because I am a newbie here is a very big accusation that is hard for me to take..... Please is it possible for me to show my real name and identity to you here? If it's not against the rules then I can drop my LinkedIn, Facebook and other Social media link here so you can know that I am not a Scam but someone you should respect on a norm.

This platform is kind of becoming toxic to me.... I guess I will take my leave... Must people behave disrespectful to earn points???

If I refuse, then why? the administrator didn't even delete or censor someone post if it contains full of harassment.

This is the post where you got many criticism, why not defend yourself in that thread instead of creating a new thread? if you not talk anything in that post, it means you agree with users who pointing out "you might be a scammer".

If you are not able to handle negativity in an anonymous environment then you should quit. Even in a nonanonymous environment, you are constantly bombarded by negative replies which we know as trolling.


We do not judge anyone based on his or her reason for being active in the forum, we judge based on what is being written by that user. Do not be so sarcastic that it is evident that you are sarcastic. Your post on the Economic board: Bitcointalk as a means of Job & Wealth Creation for Youths in Nigeria, the forum does not encourage such kind of post.


As per my stay in this forum, degrading or blaming anyone without any reason, would only result in negative trust or ban from the forum. What you have assumed is not true and it will never be in the future. Being kind and gentle is what I have seen personally being promoted in the forum, stupidity and aggressiveness always get countered by DT members.



Such, a degrading statement will not lead you anywhere and will hamper your existence in the forum. Try to rethink what you said and work on the feedback that you get from members like us. It will only help in growing up the ranks if you want to create a passive income source here.

All of us here in this community once was a beginner (Newbie) before so we know the feeling that we are alone. And also once a newbie and totally not have more knowledge about cryptocurrency and Bitcoin is quite hard to adjust cause you need to study first before you can understand what is Bitcoin and what are the importance on it. Anyways it's up to the newbie if he/she want to be successful or let say want To be a good Member her run this forum . Then he needs focus on reading .

I don't understand your issue with forum members regarding treatment. Could you provide a quote that makes you feel attacked? Since the forum space is about the freedom to express personal opinions, if you can only read negative contributions, then there are useful contributions for you to be more fair. I don't think it's important to differentiate between newbie/oldbie members because we are all members of the forum. Maybe opposing views bring frustration, but remember everything is just an online environment. Honestly, since I joined the forum, learning from my predecessors makes me very grateful to them, but I also don't feel the need to get angry at the comments. Please ask first if you are doing something wrong, and learning strongly even from criticism can partly help you build patience.

I started on this forum as a beginner and I think everyone else is too. Everyone started from scratch and everyone also understands the feeling of a beginner. But in this forum there are many users who have different characteristics from each other. So it is not surprising that there are users who provide criticism and suggestions in various ways of delivery. There are those who are gentle and wise, and there are those who are firm and straight to the point. But believe me everything is a learning process too. Even a legendary person is still learning at their own pace. One thing we must always be aware of in this forum or in the real world. That is, don't expect other people to always behave towards us according to what we want. But make them respect us by showing that we are people who can be useful to other people. Spend more time studying and reading rather than complaining and prove that you can also be better than other people.

Sometimes what tastes bitter is not always poison. But sometimes what tastes bitter is medicine. So just relax and you should enjoy your process here more. Because in my experience in the world people are crueler. They act nice in front of us but start talking bad behind our backs. But here I think people are more honest about their feelings. But I also don't deny that there are some types of people that I don't like here. But I try to understand from their point of view. And finally I can understand that they are just like us. Having rude writing doesn't mean they are a rude person.