[Table] Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos - page 9.

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Quote from: notblox1 on July 02, 2023, 09:16:44 PM

This is normal situation in mempool and nothing serious, you can see right now that anyone can send bitcoin with High Priority and paying only 14 sat/vB or $0.60.

Mempools are cleaning up and you can make your transaction with 8 or 9 sat/vbyte to get quick confirmation within 1 or 2 blocks.
https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC%20(default%20mempool),24h,weight

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I dont see any more hype around ordinals posted anywhere, and I dont think it affects casino withdrawals.
Maybe this will happen again in future and dynamic withdrawal fees fixes this.

They will upgrade themselves and try to exploit the Bitcoin Taproot protocol and mempools in future. If Bitcoin developers won't upgrade the protocol, those Ordinals will return like CryptoKitties on ERC20 returned in 2020 - 2022 with massive GameFi, Metaverse, NFT projects on the Ethereum blockchain.

Problems with gambling sites and centralized exchanges are they always very delayed to update withdrawal fee in a decreasing side but very quickly to upgrade withdrawal fee when they need to increase it.

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Quote from: Pmalek on July 02, 2023, 02:33:07 AM

The Ordinals spam is still an ongoing issue. We currently have around 250.000 of unconfirmed transactions sitting in the mempools. This number will probably increase during business days by another 50-100k, so the situation is far from optimal.

This is normal situation in mempool and nothing serious, you can see right now that anyone can send bitcoin with High Priority and paying only 14 sat/vB or $0.60.
I dont see any more hype around ordinals posted anywhere, and I dont think it affects casino withdrawals.
Maybe this will happen again in future and dynamic withdrawal fees fixes this.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on July 01, 2023, 02:37:14 PM

A little correction is required here. OwlGames minimum withdrawal limit is 0.001 BTC, but you have added 0.0001 BTC in the table.

I changed it now to the correct number. Thanks again!

Quote from: Mahdirakib on July 01, 2023, 02:37:14 PM

Aren't you going to add USD/EURO to crypto exchange rate code? It won't be bad to use that code instead of the 'equivalent in BTC'.

I have added the correct code for all exchanges that I believe should have it. The page struggles to display all the information, but the code is in the table. The info $X equivalent in BTC will remain for those casinos that don't have a fixed BTC amount for withdrawals and instead change it every time based on the current exchange rate.

Quote from: notblox1 on July 01, 2023, 07:33:38 PM

I also used some casino websites in last several weeks and I noticed big increase in withdrawal fees, but like you said this was probably caused by many stuck transactions on bitcoin blockchain.
This is now all back to normal and I dont understand why casinos would not return fees back to normal states.

The Ordinals spam is still an ongoing issue. We currently have around 250.000 of unconfirmed transactions sitting in the mempools. This number will probably increase during business days by another 50-100k, so the situation is far from optimal.

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Quote from: Pmalek on July 01, 2023, 02:29:17 AM

I am sure that many need to be updated. Last time I checked was the end of April. After the network fees exploded following the Ordinals hype, many casinos increased their withdrawal fees as a result. I decided to wait to see if the situation will calm down. But nothing has changed even several months after. We still have hundreds of thousands of unconfirmed transactions in the mempools and higher than usual fees.

I also used some casino websites in last several weeks and I noticed big increase in withdrawal fees, but like you said this was probably caused by many stuck transactions on bitcoin blockchain.
This is now all back to normal and I dont understand why casinos would not return fees back to normal states.
Big respect for all casinos that had zero transaction fees during this period, like Sportsbet for example.

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Quote from: Pmalek on July 01, 2023, 02:29:17 AM

I adjusted the info for ~ and OwlGames

A little correction is required here. OwlGames minimum withdrawal limit is 0.001 BTC, but you have added 0.0001 BTC in the table. Aren't you going to add USD/EURO to crypto exchange rate code? It won't be bad to use that code instead of the 'equivalent in BTC'. Thanks to 'bitmover' for such helpful data site.

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Quote from: bitmover on June 30, 2023, 12:34:14 PM

That's great and it looks good.
I will begin making the changes later today to see how it works. Hopefully there won't be any issues since there will be many instances where I will use the code in the OP.

Quote from: notblox1 on June 30, 2023, 06:08:01 PM

When is the last time you checked if withdrawal amounts are correct for listed websites?

I am sure that many need to be updated. Last time I checked was the end of April. After the network fees exploded following the Ordinals hype, many casinos increased their withdrawal fees as a result. I decided to wait to see if the situation will calm down. But nothing has changed even several months after. We still have hundreds of thousands of unconfirmed transactions in the mempools and higher than usual fees.

After I update the code according to bitmover's suggestions, I will go through the table and change the numbers one by one. I adjusted the info for BC.game and OwlGames as Mahdirakib suggested yesterday.

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Quote from: Pmalek on June 30, 2023, 11:23:59 AM

Yes, I am aware of it. BlackHatCoiner informed me that he discontinued his hosting service, and so the USD values will no longer be displayed in my table. Apparently, bitmover offers an alternative. I will see what that is all about and if I can somehow incorporate it into this topic. If not, I will just display the BTC values without the USD equivalents.

I think you should contact Bitmover and he can help you replacing everything with his service images.
Last time I checked he added some nice feature and monitoring bitcoin addresses, transactions and other things.
It wont be a problem for him to convert Bitcoin to dollar.

When is the last time you checked if withdrawal amounts are correct for listed websites?

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Quote from: Pmalek on June 30, 2023, 11:23:59 AM

Quote from: Mahdirakib on June 30, 2023, 11:17:10 AM

@Pmalek, Have you noticed that the BTC/USD exchange rate images are showing an invalid message?

Hi Mahdirakib
Yes, I am aware of it. BlackHatCoiner informed me that he discontinued his hosting service, and so the USD values will no longer be displayed in my table. Apparently, bitmover offers an alternative. I will see what that is all about and if I can somehow incorporate it into this topic. If not, I will just display the BTC values without the USD equivalents.

You are right, bitcoindata.science API will work for this.

For example:

0.001 BTC:

Code:

[img]https://bitcoindata.science/api/localprice.php?coin=bitcoin&amount=0.001¤cy=USD[/img]

Full Docs here:
https://bitcoindata.science/bitcointalk-api.html#local-price

You can use any fiat currency, just add it to the URL parameter.

You can also use the other way around. For example:

30 USD:

Code:

 [img height=16]https://bitcoindata.science/api/fiattobtc.php?fiatamount=15¤cy=USD[/img]

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on June 30, 2023, 11:17:10 AM

@Pmalek, Have you noticed that the BTC/USD exchange rate images are showing an invalid message?

Hi Mahdirakib
Yes, I am aware of it. BlackHatCoiner informed me that he discontinued his hosting service, and so the USD values will no longer be displayed in my table. Apparently, bitmover offers an alternative. I will see what that is all about and if I can somehow incorporate it into this topic. If not, I will just display the BTC values without the USD equivalents.

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@Pmalek, Have you noticed that the BTC/USD exchange rate images are showing an invalid message? It looks like the domain "blackhatcoiner.com" is suspended. It could be a temporary issue. But I would like to draw the attention of @BlackHatCoiner to fix this.

The minimum withdrawal limit of OwlGames is still 0.001 BTC. Also, check the minimum withdrawal amount and fee of BC.game to update it accordingly in the table. Perhaps the fee is dynamic at BCgame (as I said before).

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on May 15, 2023, 12:20:12 PM

I will try to check it out at some point soon and make some changes. I just know that with my luck, once I do make the necessary edits, things will go back to normal a few days later, and it will be time to adjust everything again. Grin

Thanks again for taking the time to report on the changes!

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I also want to mention a few casinos since they recently upped their minimum withdrawal by twice or thrice. But after what Pmalek said with the miner fees, it's better to wait it out for now since the same probably applies to the minimum withdrawal amount, as this might be their way of reducing withdrawal transactions temporarily to avoid spending unnecessary amounts of fees and would only go back once the network is back to where it was before this transaction spam.

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Quote from: Pmalek on May 08, 2023, 11:38:44 AM

The current market conditions aren't normal, and I expect that many casinos will have to temporarily adjust their fee rates to account for the current state.

There are 59 casinos in the list, 24 casinos have dynamic withdrawal fee among them. All those casinos have adjusted the withdrawal fee where it is dynamic. Therefore, dynamic withdrawal fee statement is enough for those casinos. BC.Game has one kind of dynamic withdrawal fee too, but they charge a bit higher amount than the average network fee. You may add "higher dynamic withdrawal fees" for BC.game. Currently they are charging 0.000873 BTC as withdrawal fee, while most other casinos are charging 0.00018 BTC to 0.00035 BTC (as dynamic withdrawal fee).

BTW, OWL.Games min withdrawal amount hasn't been increased for the network condition of Bitcoin. You have to check it out for updating the information in the table.

Quote from: Mahdirakib on May 07, 2023, 03:03:07 PM

• OWL.Games has increased the minimum withdrawal limit. Now it is 0.001 BTC. Their withdrawal fee isn't fixed, it changes occasionally.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on May 07, 2023, 03:03:07 PM

@Pmalek, I was informed by a forum member that 777Coin is offline since August 2022. I hope you will remove them from the table.

panjul07 didn't share anything new. We were already aware of that notification before. Considering that nothing seems has changed since August, I will remove them from my table.

Quote from: Mahdirakib on May 07, 2023, 03:03:07 PM

The fees for Bitcoin transaction is too high now as the network is overloaded.

The current market conditions aren't normal, and I expect that many casinos will have to temporarily adjust their fee rates to account for the current state. Because of that, I will not make any adjustments right now, as we don't know how long this will last. If the Ordinals craziness drops off soon, I am sure the casinos will switch back to normal fee rates. If it remains like this, it will be time for another update of the fees.

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Quote from: notblox1 on May 07, 2023, 04:26:11 PM

Quote from: Mahdirakib on May 07, 2023, 03:03:07 PM

The fees for Bitcoin transaction is too high now as the network is overloaded. BC.Game is charging 0.0009 BTC withdrawal fee now. As a result, their minimum withdrawal amount has become 0.0016 BTC.

Bitcoin and Ethereum fees are very high now for normal users and there is over 420,000 unconfirmed transactions in bitcoin mempool! Shocked

I think this could be one more coordinated attack on bitcoin network to make it almost unusable for regular users, and situation can be even worse in future.
Someone told me that Binance exchange totally stopped Bitcoin withdrawals, so we should all be prepared for unexpected things.
Big respect for all casinos that still have zero withdrawal fees right now.

Unconfirmed pending transactions are primarily due to a large population awaiting confirmation, as well as the presence of a significant traffic streak online. Bitcoin and Ethereum have the highest gas fees of any network in the space. I've observed numerous traders file concerns about the excessive network costs levied on their everyday transactions. This aspect has the most impact on Binance P2P merchants. Fees charged result in them losing money on a daily basis from their fasten transactions. We only came across few casino that has no fees on any of their transactions, the market is evolving and expanding into a completely new zone.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on May 07, 2023, 03:03:07 PM

The fees for Bitcoin transaction is too high now as the network is overloaded. BC.Game is charging 0.0009 BTC withdrawal fee now. As a result, their minimum withdrawal amount has become 0.0016 BTC.

Bitcoin and Ethereum fees are very high now for normal users and there is over 420,000 unconfirmed transactions in bitcoin mempool! Shocked

I think this could be one more coordinated attack on bitcoin network to make it almost unusable for regular users, and situation can be even worse in future.
Someone told me that Binance exchange totally stopped Bitcoin withdrawals, so we should all be prepared for unexpected things.
Big respect for all casinos that still have zero withdrawal fees right now.

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Housebets.io

Withdrawal fee: 0.0004 BTC

This high amount is just a withdrawal fee? It's gross to me for a new casino that is just trying to compete with the already actively competitive market. Some don't just have a good business plan. Well, a lot of people would not know until they file for a withdrawal. I pity them as they can use this fee to pay for at least 4 times withdrawals elsewhere.

It should be for those casinos that are still relatively new to be able to provide withdrawl fees as low as possible and also have fast withdrawl because having low fees and a faster process can provide special interest for gamblers to want to register and try playing there.
In this gambling industry, the competition is indeed very tight, so any casino that tries to have a name must be able to have an advantage over other casinos.
So far I haven't tried to play on Housebets.io and after reading and knowing that their withdrawl is quite big maybe I will discourage playing there.

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@Pmalek, I was informed by a forum member that 777Coin is offline since August 2022. I hope you will remove them from the table.
• The fees for Bitcoin transaction is too high now as the network is overloaded. BC.Game is charging 0.0009 BTC withdrawal fee now. As a result, their minimum withdrawal amount has become 0.0016 BTC.
• OWL.Games has increased the minimum withdrawal limit. Now it is 0.001 BTC. Their withdrawal fee isn't fixed, it changes occasionally.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on April 28, 2023, 04:11:36 PM

I don't know anything about second casino he is working on, but I don't think casino is his property, he just works for them and he is very busy Cheesy

He mentioned it in our local board but I don't think it was in his thread where he announced Coinslotty. Yeah, he isn't the owner, but he is managing and operating it from a higher position. One that surely gives him some decision-making rights. If I remember correctly, the two casinos will be quite different one from the other.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 28, 2023, 04:41:34 AM

Sure. I am aware of Coinslotty and its owner from our local Croatian board, and there is a sense of professionalism and responsibility there. If I am not mistaken, he is considering starting a 2nd casino soon. Just to be fair to everyone and neutral, I will add Coinslotty together with some other casinos that were requested and that I find interesting the next time I add new names here.

Thank you for your effort.
I don't know anything about second casino he is working on, but I don't think casino is his property, he just works for them and he is very busy Cheesy

My invitation to people is to visit Coinslotty, register, test how everything works and make suggestions for improving it.

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