[Table] Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos - page 5.

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Quote from: delfastTions on December 19, 2023, 03:50:05 AM

But maybe, based on your observations, you can note several casinos that actively change their data in such extreme situations as the latest events related to Ordinals. These changes may partially and indirectly signal to players about the decreasing reliability of such casinos.
I think this information would be useful to many players.

My last complete check of all the numbers in the table dates back to the end of August. The Ordinals inscriptions were already causing problems back then and it's still ongoing as we all can see. Honestly, I have never thought about which particular casinos make regular changes to their withdrawal fees, for instance. Many crypto casinos have dynamic withdrawal fees, so the numbers change all the time. Obviously, those with fixed sums don't make changes as often.

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Quote from: Pmalek on December 06, 2023, 02:56:35 PM

Quote from: 3kpk3 on December 06, 2023, 12:46:12 PM

@Pmalek I advise adding some of the most popular betting brokers to the list such as Betinasia, AsianConnect, Vodds, Sportmarket etc since they support multiple crypto payment methods and are pretty useful to many punters.

They are especially useful for American citizens who are usually banned by most crypto gambling sites.

While all that may be true, I will not add any online casino unless they have an announcement thread here and are somewhat active on the forum. Potential players should be able to browse Bitcointalk and research the casinos' reputation, thoughts of other players, concerns, etc. Also, the forum's feedback system can be useful for such checks.

This is what makes your table and this topic itself very valuable for users of our forum. Indeed, players can always clarify some of the nuances of withdrawing money to their account in the casino’s profile topic here in the Gambling section.
I understand perfectly well how much effort and time you spend on updating this data.
And it is even more likely that the period of insane commissions and a huge mempool in the Bitcoin network made serious adjustments to these commission data. Of course you are an expert in these matters, I have no doubt. But maybe, based on your observations, you can note several casinos that actively change their data in such extreme situations as the latest events related to Ordinals. These changes may partially and indirectly signal to players about the decreasing reliability of such casinos.
I think this information would be useful to many players.

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Quote from: Pmalek on December 15, 2023, 10:54:40 AM

Quote from: panjul07 on December 15, 2023, 09:35:05 AM

Update from Fortunejack, they have lowered the minimum withdrawal from $150 to $50.

As the consequence, withdrawal fee is charged for withdrawal between $50-$150, fixed $4 fee for btc & eth and $1 for other currencies.
While withdrawal above $150 is still free of withdrawal fee.

Thanks for the update. The $150 minimum was quite high, which put FortuneJack on the list of crypto casinos with the highest minimum withdrawal amounts. The $50 looks much better now, and puts them further down on the list. Too bad that all withdrawals aren't free of charge, but I understand their decision, especially now when the network fees are crazy high.

I have read their blog post they linked to in their ANN, but it doesn't explain properly the fixed fee rates you mentioned. I will have to log into my account tomorrow and check it myself just to be 100% sure.

I'm pretty sure that previously I read about fixed fee for btc and eth in their blog, unfortunately I did not quote it or did not take a screenshot.
Just visited the blog again and I see that it is not the same as what I read earlier, seems to be updated already as btc and eth are no longer mentioned in the blog post.
Not a significant change IMO, the fee is still in the range of $1-$4 depending on the coin to withdraw.

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Quote from: panjul07 on December 15, 2023, 09:35:05 AM

Update from Fortunejack, they have lowered the minimum withdrawal from $150 to $50.

As the consequence, withdrawal fee is charged for withdrawal between $50-$150, fixed $4 fee for btc & eth and $1 for other currencies.
While withdrawal above $150 is still free of withdrawal fee.

Thanks for the update. The $150 minimum was quite high, which put FortuneJack on the list of crypto casinos with the highest minimum withdrawal amounts. The $50 looks much better now, and puts them further down on the list. Too bad that all withdrawals aren't free of charge, but I understand their decision, especially now when the network fees are crazy high.

I have read their blog post they linked to in their ANN, but it doesn't explain properly the fixed fee rates you mentioned. I will have to log into my account tomorrow and check it myself just to be 100% sure.

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Update from Fortunejack, they have lowered the minimum withdrawal from $150 to $50.

Quote from: FortuneJack on December 15, 2023, 09:13:25 AM

The minimum withdrawal limit has been lowered from $150 to $50, and cashing out your wins is now 3x easier at FortuneJack.

As the consequence, withdrawal fee is charged for withdrawal between $50-$150, fixed $4 fee for btc & eth and $1 for other currencies.
While withdrawal above $150 is still free of withdrawal fee.

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Quote from: 3kpk3 on December 06, 2023, 12:46:12 PM

@Pmalek I advise adding some of the most popular betting brokers to the list such as Betinasia, AsianConnect, Vodds, Sportmarket etc since they support multiple crypto payment methods and are pretty useful to many punters.

They are especially useful for American citizens who are usually banned by most crypto gambling sites.

While all that may be true, I will not add any online casino unless they have an announcement thread here and are somewhat active on the forum. Potential players should be able to browse Bitcointalk and research the casinos' reputation, thoughts of other players, concerns, etc. Also, the forum's feedback system can be useful for such checks.

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@Pmalek I advise adding some of the most popular betting brokers to the list such as Betinasia, AsianConnect, Vodds, Sportmarket etc since they support multiple crypto payment methods and are pretty useful to many punters.

They are especially useful for American citizens who are usually banned by most crypto gambling sites.

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Update:

I have removed Chips.gg from the table. The casino operates without a casino license, and I have seen information that points towards Chips.gg locking player accounts to prevent winning players from cashing out. Read the scam accusation below for more information. The evidence isn't public but can be found on 3rd-party sites for those who know where to look. Don't say anything more on that subject please!

How I got scammed by chips.gg with insane proof from their employee

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on November 29, 2023, 11:47:44 AM

Perhaps it's my ad blockers or the fact that I am accessing the casino's website from a desktop computer, but I don't see any warning messages at the top. The screenshot you posted looks like it was taken from your phone. This is what I currently see on anonibet.com. There is no notification about closing down. I don't doubt what you are saying is true, it's just not there for me.

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Quote from: Pmalek on November 28, 2023, 12:29:21 PM

I don't see the announcement on their website. But I couldn't log into my account. It says that it was disabled due to no betting activity. I will leave it in the table for the moment and make a note to remove it in December.

I'm unable to login for the same reason. I had placed my last bet there a long time ago. Anyway, the warning message is too small to be noticeable. They are showing the message at the top of the website.

I hope you will consider to add those casinos (suggested by Bitinity) in the list when you will remove Anonibet from the list.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on November 28, 2023, 07:49:40 AM

@Pmalek, I had forgotten to inform you that FoggyStar has closed it's operation a long time ago. They had announced it on their telegram channel in the April month of this year. The website is still up, but they have disabled the registration a long time ago.

Yeah, I just checked it myself. It's weird to announce that you are changing casino licenses, and then several months after that still not have a functional site that also involves letting new players register. I checked their Twitter feed and there hasn't been any activity there either after the same announcement posted in April. I will remove them from the table.

Quote from: Mahdirakib on November 28, 2023, 07:49:40 AM

Another casino, Anonibet is going to shut down their business on the 30th November. I just learnt about it from this post. They are showing a notification in their website about this.

I don't see the announcement on their website. But I couldn't log into my account. It says that it was disabled due to no betting activity. I will leave it in the table for the moment and make a note to remove it in December.

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@Pmalek, I had forgotten to inform you that FoggyStar has closed it's operation a long time ago. They had announced it on their telegram channel in the April month of this year. The website is still up, but they have disabled the registration a long time ago.
Another casino, Anonibet is going to shut down their business on the 30th November. I just learnt about it from this post. They are showing a notification in their website about this.

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 21, 2023, 01:18:34 PM

Am guessing that most of their gamblers are using altcoins instead of BTC which probably have a better fee structure in comparison.

I took a quick look because I was interested myself. There are mixed results.

Here are two examples:
Ethereum: Minimum withdrawal 0.5 ETH, fees: 0.01
Tether: Minimum withdrawal 10 USDT, fees: No information about the fees.

Quote from: shield132 on November 21, 2023, 04:20:23 PM

I don't know about many listed casinos in this topic but I can surely tell you that free sometimes doesn't come easy. For example FortuneJack offers free withdrawal but they ask you to wager your deposited money two times before you withdraw.

Is that both for casino games and sports betting. I think that requirement is only for casino games. I haven't played there in a long time but I don't remember having to wager more than once when betting on sports.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on November 20, 2023, 01:48:14 PM

Anyway, you have provided inaccurate information about MoneyPot. The minimum withdrawal limit is 100 Bits (0.0001 BTC) at MoneyPot. And you made a little mistake on the hyperlink of CoinsGame. Are you promoting BCgame here (just kidding) Grin

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Thanks for the correction, I have edited my previous post with the correct information as well as the correct hyperlink. Of course I do not promote bcgame, I copied it from the OP and seems that I forgot to change the link of the bc.game

Just noticed that moneypot also provide 2 different withdrawal fee (normal and fast/immediate) but of course the fast mode will cost more than the normal mode especially with the current network tx fee.

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Quote from: so98nn on November 20, 2023, 02:19:55 PM

Just excellent collaboration of different casinos based on fees. I can’t believe it both ways: there are casinos with free withdrawal while there are also casinos that are charging as high as 100 plus bucks for any amount of transaction?

That much fees are sometimes profits for small player like me. Lolz. I ain’t gonna play on those casinos at all. That just doesn’t fit in the math of gambler really. I’m not sure how users from that casino are able to retain themselves after seeing such horrible fees. Is it just during the congested network or is it all time that High? For now those with free withdrawals must be taking all those fees on them that is deducting it via their own revenue. That’s good marketing strategy and also good move towards user happiness.

I don't know about many listed casinos in this topic but I can surely tell you that free sometimes doesn't come easy. For example FortuneJack offers free withdrawal but they ask you to wager your deposited money two times before you withdraw. This requirement increases your risk to lose and increases profit chances for casino, one would say that FortuneJack is for real gamblers because real gamblers always wager more than their capital, it's not for those who are afraid to lose.

Those casinos that charge as high as 100+ bucks for withdrawal are the ones that also try to keep gamblers with them. When you see that you have to pay 100 bucks and your withdrawal amount is $200, you say fuk it and spin the wheel and continue gambling.
In both cases, those casinos have the same goal but they choose different path.

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Quote from: Pmalek on November 21, 2023, 12:16:49 PM

Ever since I started this thread, BetHash has charged the same fees in bitcoin for withdrawals. It was always 0.002 BTC, regardless of the network congestion. The minimum withdrawal amounts were also always fixed at 0.02 BTC, and that number isn't changing either. My guess is that they don't have any or very few players. I see no reason why a sane person would stay with a casino with such a ridiculous fee structure.

I did some research regarding them and it seems that they are somewhat popular in Hong Kong and some of op's posts are in Chinese as well. Their decentralised site looks like crap and I don't see anything appealing about it.

Am guessing that most of their gamblers are using altcoins instead of BTC which probably have a better fee structure in comparison.

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Quote from: so98nn on November 20, 2023, 02:19:55 PM

I can’t believe it both ways: there are casinos with free withdrawal while there are also casinos that are charging as high as 100 plus bucks for any amount of transaction?

That much fees are sometimes profits for small player like me. Lolz. I ain’t gonna play on those casinos at all. That just doesn’t fit in the math of gambler really. I’m not sure how users from that casino are able to retain themselves after seeing such horrible fees. Is it just during the congested network or is it all time that High?

I am sure that you are talking about BetHash since you mentioned amounts of $100 or more. Ever since I started this thread, BetHash has charged the same fees in bitcoin for withdrawals. It was always 0.002 BTC, regardless of the network congestion. The minimum withdrawal amounts were also always fixed at 0.02 BTC, and that number isn't changing either. My guess is that they don't have any or very few players. I see no reason why a sane person would stay with a casino with such a ridiculous fee structure.

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Just excellent collaboration of different casinos based on fees. I can’t believe it both ways: there are casinos with free withdrawal while there are also casinos that are charging as high as 100 plus bucks for any amount of transaction?

That much fees are sometimes profits for small player like me. Lolz. I ain’t gonna play on those casinos at all. That just doesn’t fit in the math of gambler really. I’m not sure how users from that casino are able to retain themselves after seeing such horrible fees. Is it just during the congested network or is it all time that High? For now those with free withdrawals must be taking all those fees on them that is deducting it via their own revenue. That’s good marketing strategy and also good move towards user happiness.

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Quote from: Bitinity on November 20, 2023, 03:43:50 AM

maybe you can consider to add below new casinos. They have been for a while and I do not see any complaint against them, ~

I was thinking to inform Pmalek about these casinos after including them in my KYC information and bonus information thread. But I had forgotten about it. Thanks for doing the job. The help from the gambling community is needed to update these mega threads.

Anyway, you have provided inaccurate information about MoneyPot. The minimum withdrawal limit is 100 Bits (0.0001 BTC) at MoneyPot. And you made a little mistake on the hyperlink of CoinsGame. Are you promoting BCgame here (just kidding) Grin

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Quote from: Hamphser on November 19, 2023, 06:00:00 PM

How those casinos/bookies platforms managed to have that FREE withdrawal ? considering that current fees are really that high specially on Bitcoin and pretty sure on ETH.

Well, the fees weren't always as high as they became in the last days. They are generally higher ever since Bitcoin Ordinals were introduced, but before that, we had long periods where you only needed to pay 1-2 sat v/Byte for a quick confirmation.

Quote from: Bitinity on November 20, 2023, 03:43:50 AM

Thanks for the suggestion. One day I will have to check back in this thread because there were plenty of requests to add certain casinos. Then I will add those that I feel should be there.

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