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n2004al

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Quote from: Hellacopter on December 03, 2015, 07:29:49 PM

No relation between Bitcoin and scam, because simply the scammers use fiat and cash more than Bitcoin and scammers tried their operations before the creation of the bitcoin crypto currency as known

Have no meaning to do such connections. The scammer can scam with everything and with every money. He scam there who find possibility to scam and these kind of possibilities are more out of bitcoin because ever the amount of people which are his target is bigger and have more possibility to earn more and for a log time. then have no meaning in itself to make such correlation. It is like to make guilty the bread because the bread maker has make it with expired flour.

knowhow

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Before bitcoin people used payza,liberty reserve,as others payment to scam run the famous hyip,pyramid,doublers and well those project keep running and taking money from others.Bitcoin has an advantage as we will only see where the funds are going but as soon as the funds achieve an exchange well the person can easy take out the coins into a new adress and well adress gone,no support or way to try to recover,thats why the most is avoiding have a big ammount or invest at bitcoin or even join.Scammers will always use crypto first to scam and then fiat as the risks involved are very very different.

Amph

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Quote from: nejibens on December 03, 2015, 07:45:20 PM

I think scammers used the fiat and the cash more than bitcoin, bitcoin isn't yet so famous as you think OP

scamming fiat online is very hard, that's way there are more interested to scam with bitcoin and then converting, because no one can argue form where they received those coins, they can always say that they instamined them with altcoin in the doge era...

with fiat you can't really scam, you need to scam cc details or something hard as that

notlist3d

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Quote from: Hellacopter on December 03, 2015, 07:29:49 PM

No relation between Bitcoin and scam, because simply the scammers use fiat and cash more than Bitcoin and scammers tried their operations before the creation of the bitcoin crypto currency as known

The fact is there are bad people no matter what money your dealing with. Fiat or digital... there are people with greed. Greed can make people do stupid things.

I don't think we can say one is worse then other on type. Only thing is bitcoin some might think is worse due to media covering bad articles more then good. Just the way most media works.

Biggest thing is if something sounds to good to be true, or too high of profit margin... chances are it is.

nejibens

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I think scammers used the fiat and the cash more than bitcoin, bitcoin isn't yet so famous as you think OP

Hellacopter

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No relation between Bitcoin and scam, because simply the scammers use fiat and cash more than Bitcoin and scammers tried their operations before the creation of the bitcoin crypto currency as known

calkob

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Quote from: netplus on November 24, 2015, 01:42:51 PM

i like bitcoin

low fee but more scam

what about scammer ?

Well then maybe Bitcoin isnt for you....... Huh

caliboy37

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Just trade with trusted user. Safety first

knowhow

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Well i had invested into mybitmine maybe some know ,but well the promises and developement were soo amazing i had invested some penies ,now that most people are getting a huge income into the game and well admin says has no time to manage the payments and deposits and able to make the new version that would be sustentable.

ultimatesky

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SkyFall

Depends on who the scammer is. If it's 1 single person it's best to ask for prove before you buy anything and before you pay them anything.

artifical100

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Never got scammed using bitcoin but I know that scammer like BTC.

AncilVTwo

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Quote from: netplus on November 24, 2015, 01:42:51 PM

i like bitcoin

low fee but more scam

what about scammer ?

lol wtf are you saying? scammer implies a person is the one doing the scamming. bitcoin isnt a person, and what makes you think bitcoin is a scam.

GannickusX

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Quote from: Small on November 28, 2015, 06:23:24 AM

Quote from: GannickusX on November 27, 2015, 04:07:32 PM

Quote from: kolesozw on November 27, 2015, 12:30:13 PM

Being scammed will always depend on you, as a bitcoin holder. It will depend on your carelessness and stupidity. If you're scammed, then it is not bitcoin's fault.

What about Mt-gox? There was no way to know before hand and it can happen to more exchanges, even the most trusted ones taking in count that mt-gox was basically THE exchange for bitcoins. Bitcoins make it easier for people to scam because they can open a business, scam and then run away with almost no possibility of being traced

Mt Gox was not trusted at all. They had a few security issues including one which crashed the market. The problem with them is that they aren't solvent for a long time. The solution here is pretty simple, have a publicly verifiable hot and cold wallet so that the general public can at least be assured that the exchange is solvent. If not, audit it regularly. Many exchanges such as kraken have audits.

All in all, putting large amount of money in an exchange for a long term is a no no.

''was not trusted at all'' I will have to disagree with you, '' by 2013 was handling 70% of all bitcoin transactions.'' I would say that made it a pretty trusted exchange, they also blamed hackers for the dissapearing money so it's not really clear.

frendsento

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Being scammed is a choice , since you are making a transaction with an individual you didn't even know you are aware in a risk of being scammed its your job to check whether the person you are making a transactions is legitimate , and don't ever be fooled by those advertisement that offers double and triple your money in a day or week you just end up being scammed.

loreykyutt05

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In every matter there is a pros and cons , the cons of bitcoins for you is being scammed and not get your money back , that is true but i believe that you are liable and responsible in every transaction you made with bitcoin maybe your not responsible enough so you end up being scammed, we are responsible to every transaction we make so we better check if the one whom we are transacting is legit or not.

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Grow SMALL amount of BTC by earning it

Quote from: GannickusX on November 27, 2015, 04:07:32 PM

Quote from: kolesozw on November 27, 2015, 12:30:13 PM

Being scammed will always depend on you, as a bitcoin holder. It will depend on your carelessness and stupidity. If you're scammed, then it is not bitcoin's fault.

What about Mt-gox? There was no way to know before hand and it can happen to more exchanges, even the most trusted ones taking in count that mt-gox was basically THE exchange for bitcoins. Bitcoins make it easier for people to scam because they can open a business, scam and then run away with almost no possibility of being traced

Mt Gox was not trusted at all. They had a few security issues including one which crashed the market. The problem with them is that they aren't solvent for a long time. The solution here is pretty simple, have a publicly verifiable hot and cold wallet so that the general public can at least be assured that the exchange is solvent. If not, audit it regularly. Many exchanges such as kraken have audits.

All in all, putting large amount of money in an exchange for a long term is a no no.

GannickusX

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Quote from: Blue_Tiger73 on November 27, 2015, 04:22:04 PM

Quote from: GannickusX on November 27, 2015, 04:07:32 PM

Quote from: kolesozw on November 27, 2015, 12:30:13 PM

Being scammed will always depend on you, as a bitcoin holder. It will depend on your carelessness and stupidity. If you're scammed, then it is not bitcoin's fault.

What about Mt-gox? There was no way to know before hand and it can happen to more exchanges, even the most trusted ones taking in count that mt-gox was basically THE exchange for bitcoins. Bitcoins make it easier for people to scam because they can open a business, scam and then run away with almost no possibility of being traced

Of course there is no way to see if something like that is going to happen. But you have to be careful yourself and if you invested, it was because of your own stupidity. It is not Bitcoin's fault, maybe you should have invested in another exchange and you might not have got scammed.

So, what's your point exactly? ''if you invested, it was because of your own stupidity'' So everyone who used mt-gox is stupid? As I said previously, seems like you don't read, Bitcoin makes it easier for anyone to scam because it's anonymous and imposible to trace and all the transactions are final, you can't chargeback.

ivan19

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Have to be smart in making decisions dealing with BTC. If it sounds too good to be true than most time its a scam AKA HYIP sites.

Ryananda

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Yes scammer does harm
Because we've been trying but not paid
I also want to ask whether there are scammers bitcoin ??

knowhow

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Scammers are getting better as the time and experience they collect with every project ,we cant predict any scammer like exchanges they may turn into scam and well we wont be able to predict it,happened already in the past,the fact is that is risky to be involved into any online project offering a return from your investment,usually banks and some companies offers this service and even them cant garantee the result.

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